Logitech MX1000 laser mouse review

[lazybum131]

Originally posted by: DN

Some of you out there are lucky enough to either get a fully functioning mx1000 or are too ignorant to know the difference.

It could also be that some people don't have the same gaming "style" that you (or others with the same "problem) have, but I'm SURE you've factored that into the equation also -- it's probably THE difference that we need to focus on here..

In either case, you can't discount those of us who can't deal with it.

Nobody should discount your claim that for YOUR style of play that this version of their mouse doesn't function like YOU want it nor does it function like their predecessors did.. I don't think Logitech is BOUND to make their newer products work in EVERY SINGLE fashion that their predecessor did.. This doesn't make it a SCAM.. I've seen many new versions of products not work EXACTLY as their predecessors.. If you don't like a product or how it handles, RETURN IT.. If you bought it from somewhere where you can't return it then you are SCAMMING YOURSELF..

If YOU are too ignorant to comprehend the above then I know what YOUR issue really is..

Don't think that applies to someone like me, who was unlucky enough to get a flawed MX1000 as a warranty replacement for my MX700.

I called Logitech about the setdown delay, and they weren't willing to do anything about it. The service dude talked to his manager and was told that this was inherent in the MX1000 design. I was also told the MX700 is no longer produced so they couldn't send me one.

 

[NarcoticHobo]

Seriously, using a mouse like that is insane...

I game with mine and have never had any problems, even in games like counterstrike. I just have a big mousepad, so I guess I have no need to pick up my mouse.

I think the moral of the story is, the MX1000 is the best mouse out there unless you are a gamer who likes a light mouse that he can throw around the room while playing games.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: lailoken
The cool thing about this mouse is it's AMAZING tracking... It's a bull%^&* argument that it's for CAD and businessmen! What do they ever need to move it at great speeds for?

You've obviously never watched a serious CAD-monkey in action. It's quite the mouse frenzy. Actually I'd say CAD-monkeys and graphic design people use their mice more than just about anyone (unless you game 8 hours a day, in which case I'm jealous).

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: arredondo
So here we are, almost three months after I posted this thread and we find things to be exactly as I described.

Ive been watching you bitch in this thread for quite some time. For gods sake, get off your high horse and stop crapping on a product that apart from isolated incidents, along with questionable usage in the process, is an otherwise good product.
So youve had some problems with it. Big wow. Thats no reason to classify everything about it as bad. Your like those people who have one bad experiance with a company or manufactuer and from that point onwards complain about them at every possible oppourtunity. Grow up.
The MX1000 is not a beta product. Its not a bad product. 99% of people out there think its perfect, and quite frankly, if you use your mouse to do things that would "put it to test", then you really shouldnt be looking at a MX1000 in the first place should you?
So stop complaning. Get on with your life. And dont bitch.

Honestly, some people :roll:
And you can tell how much thought went into deciding to post at all, as i havnt posted on AT for several months now!

 

[commOdog]

Originally posted by: NarcoticHobo

I think the moral of the story is, the MX1000 is the best mouse out there unless you are a gamer who likes a light mouse that he can throw around the room while playing games.

i just spit coffee on my keyboard, thanks.....

 

[fkloster]

Originally posted by: commOdog

Originally posted by: NarcoticHobo

I think the moral of the story is, the MX1000 is the best mouse out there unless you are a gamer who likes a light mouse that he can throw around the room while playing games.

i just spit coffee on my keyboard, thanks.....

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: arredondo
So here we are, almost three months after I posted this thread and we find things to be exactly as I described.

Speak for yourself,I have no lag or problems with my MX1000,glad I don`t listen to other people when it comes to buying products .

I think the moral of the story is, the MX1000 is the best mouse out there unless you are a gamer who likes a light mouse that he can throw around the room while playing games.

I agree,only negative thing in my books with my MX1000 is the weight(still lighter then the MX700) and the best cordless mouse on the market at present IMHO.

I also have a Razer Diamondback mouse and the difference IMHO between the two is not lag but weight,pretty big difference and I have teflon feet on both,for gaming you can just move the Razer Diamondback around faster and quicker due to the lighter weight,however the MX1000 still perfoms well where tracking and lag is concerned, if it had the weight of the Diamondback it would be awesome for gaming.

Btw when I lift my Razer Diamondback off my pad, the mouse cursor will not move just like the MX1000, you have to remember the Diamondback has no power down mode but anything higher then 1cm off my pad and the mouse cursor just won`t move.

Any normal gamer keeps his mouse on the pad or desk and only lifts it up when he needs to recentre his mouse ,nobody I know uses his mouse as a bat in the air.

 

[imported_Bukk]

I bought a MX1000 about 2 weeks ago. Couldnt put up with the continuous deaths in Counterstike cause I coulnt aim fast enough. I am a person to lift the mouse to center the cursor. Everytime I would lift the mouse the cursor would still move till the mouse was more than an inch off my desk. This was very annoying. Also I did not like the feel of the mouse. It was heavy as my fingers were getting tired lifting the mouse continously. I did not like the feel of the mouse, as I use more of my fingertips to control my mouse then resting my whole hand on the mouse to move it. Just using my fingers to move the mouse, my thumb would feel funny due to the fact the mouse was designed to have your whole thumb resting in the big thumb groove on the left side of the mouse.

Other than that, the mouse looks good and I had no problems(yet) with the cursor jumping around. Although I havent used the mouse more than one day. It currently sits on my backup gaming computer. Right now I use a corded 2 button optical Logitech mouse which is light(weight wise) and doesnt move the cursor when lifting the mouse. Which I have no problems with in accuracy of gaming. Im thinking of trying the MX510 and hopefully that will be more to my play style.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Alex]

all i can say is im not buying this anymore... whetehr or not these claims are exaggerated or truthful or not, the fact that there is controvesy about it means i should wait

thx for the heads up!

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: NarcoticHobo
Seriously, using a mouse like that is insane...

I game with mine and have never had any problems, even in games like counterstrike. I just have a big mousepad, so I guess I have no need to pick up my mouse.

I think the moral of the story is, the MX1000 is the best mouse out there unless you are a gamer who likes a light mouse that he can throw around the room while playing games.

My mousepad is 17.5" Wide by 14" Deep (DKT Pad) and one full swipe across it does a 180 degree turn in counterstrike. It helps a ridiculous amount with sniping, I have a 30-50% accuracy on awp map almost everytime I play it due to the increase precision.

 

[mixpix]

Im guessing that most of you realize that you have to customize the sensitivity of the mouse in Windows AND the game your playing. You can get great performance, but it might require a bit of time tuning the settings. Also VSYNC can make a difference in how the mouse responds.

Have any of you tried the Mouse Sensitivity Registry hack that was released back when the MX500 first came out? Because I did use that hack for my MX500 and it helped. But I haven't had a chance to try it with it on this MX1000. (if it would even matter)

P.S. It also rocks back 'n forth on flat surfaces like it has a broken wheel or something, just like some other complaints in that thread. Hust another example of how shoddy this rushed piece of crap is.

Um, obviously you should exchange the mouse if its doing this... no wonder it doesn't work right.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: mixpix
Im guessing that most of you realize that you have to customize the sensitivity of the mouse in Windows AND the game your playing. You can get great performance, but it might require a bit of time tuning the settings. Also VSYNC can make a difference in how the mouse responds.

Have any of you tried the Mouse Sensitivity Registry hack that was released back when the MX500 first came out? Because I did use that hack for my MX500 and it helped. But I haven't had a chance to try it with it on this MX1000. (if it would even matter)

I have my mouserate at 200, windows sens tweaked (no acceleration) vsync off (always play with it off, get 99fps constant in cs) and sensitivity in cs tweaked as well as zoom_sensitivity_ratio at 1.0 to preserve constant speed.

The mouse is defective, some people may have gotten non-defective ones, but mine was definately defective

 

[mixpix]

I have my monitor refresh at 85 so i play with VSYNC on and get 85fps. The fps difference is not noticeable and VSYNC makes the game play smoother overall. I have been playing CS for years and have recently started to use VSYNC in OpenGL and so far its been much better.

I did notice a bit of difference in how my MX500 worked after enabling VSYNC but it wasn't a big difference, I just tweeked the mouse sensitivity ingame a little.

Sidenote: VSYNC is locked on by default in all Direct3D games anyways, just locked at 60Hz unless use the utility to change the video cards maximum refresh in Direct3D, which should be done. This way I dont have a change the mouse sensitivity much between OpenGL and Direct3D games because everything remains at a standard setting.

Something to think about.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: mixpix
I have my monitor refresh at 85 so i play with VSYNC on and get 85fps. The fps difference is not noticeable and VSYNC makes the game play smoother overall. I have been playing CS for years and have recently started to use VSYNC in OpenGL and so far its been much better.

I did notice a bit of difference in how my MX500 worked after enabling VSYNC but it wasn't a big difference, I just tweeked the mouse sensitivity ingame a little.

Sidenote: VSYNC is locked on by default in all Direct3D games anyways, just locked at 60Hz unless use the utility to change the video cards maximum refresh in Direct3D, which should be done. This way I dont have a change the mouse sensitivity much between OpenGL and Direct3D games because everything remains at a standard setting.

Something to think about.

I have an lcd, so my fps would be capped at 60 if I had vsync on so it's not a choice for me anymore. I love vsync @ 100hz on a CRT but lcds are so crisp for 2d work. 60fps capped feels very bad in counterstrike, other games it's not so bad. Just my opinion though.

 

[EvilRage]

I've owned an MX1000 and currently own a MX700 (the MX1000 is gone) Here's why.

1) My playing style

When playing CS or any other FPS, I like to keep my sensitivity low. I am one of the gamers that lifts the mouse off the pad when it reaches the edge of the mousepad so that I can reposition it for better feel. It's a personal preference, yes. However, the MX1000 does not allow me the OPTION of my preference, instead forcing me into a playing style I dislike (turning up the sensitivity and moving my hand less) In my opinion, a good product allows the consumer to make a choice in how to use their product, and does NOT make the choice for them.

A related note reguarding playing style: When lifting the mouse off the pad, I have to lift higher because the MX1000 still tracks with the mouse off the pad. More annoyances that could have been avoided.

2) Cost

Honestly, it's 80 bucks for a freakin mouse. Granted there are some people willing to pay for that kind of performance, but I haven't noticed a clear performance difference between the MX700 and the MX1000 (and what little performance I do notice on the MX1000 is negated by its huge drawback of ruining my playing style. tsk.) The MX700 cost me 50 bucks when I first got it almost 2 years ago, and when I re-ordered it to replace my MX1000 it cost me $43.

3) Lack of QC

There have been some reports that the mouse "wobbles" (in fact I've had a number of customers return this mouse at the store I work at because of this problem). While there is an obvious fix for this, (get a new one or RMA the one you have) this issue should NOT have gotten by Logitech QC. This is a BASIC expectancy when I buy a mouse, something that shouldn't be an issue.

4) Lack of support

Logitech doesn't seem interested in keeping its gamer customer base (or at least the ones who play like me) if they're suggesting that this mouse was designed for CAD or other applications that rely on mouse sensitivity. "It's not a bug, it's a feature!"

For those of you who're satisfied with your MX1000, good for you. Mine's returned because it didn't fit my style. A lot of people do a lot of whining, but the biggest impact you can make is with your wallet: If you don't like the product, don't buy it. At least logitech gives us THAT decision.

PS... As stated above, I am on my 2nd MX700. I have had problems with neither of them, and whoever said the battery doesn't hold a charge for long is insane. Both of the MX700s I've owned have been able to hold a charge (while being used) for a good day or two, the only time the red light ever flashes is right when I first set it up, and that's usually because I'm anxious to get going with it, not because of a battery or charger defect.

 

[tooltime]

mx1000 is excellent

 

[tooltime]

why i like it most is because it works on more surfaces than my other logitech optical mousing devices

 

[EvilRage]

Yeah, I had a little fun running the mouse over my arms and legs and stuff before I returned it. Just because I could.

 

[BoomAM]

No product is perfect. If you wanted, i could pick apart specs of your rig that have problems that i could put down to "No QC". But i wont, because every product has its flaws. The difference is that we dont all complain about them.
There are such things as bad batchs you know. Ever thought that you might have gotten one? But i bet that didnt cross your mind when you started off on a rant.

 

[barnett25]

My MX1000 doesn't pass the "U test", but I don't have a problem with it in games. I think the reason some people have the problem and some don't is because different people use it differently. I picked this mouse more because it's the only mouse not made by Microsoft that fits my hand than because of the laser. I also like the rechargable battery with indicator, and I havent noticed any loss of sensitivity due to being wireless. I would definitely recommend this mouse to anyone (anyone who doesn't use the mouse like arredondo anyway).

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
No product is perfect. If you wanted, i could pick apart specs of your rig that have problems that i could put down to "No QC". But i wont, because every product has its flaws. The difference is that we dont all complain about them.
There are such things as bad batchs you know. Ever thought that you might have gotten one? But i bet that didnt cross your mind when you started off on a rant.

My mouse shut OFF for 2-3 seconds every time I put it down after lifting it up. That is a defect and personally I don't want to have to buy more than one mouse to find a working one. And it didn't track correctly. And it was akward to hold. And the sensitivity was weird, even without drivers (seemed like some psuedo acceleration). I can't wait until they made a laser mouse that works right! But until then I would wait

A lot of people in here have had the exact same experiences, I have never had ~3 operational problems with a mouse before outside of maybe an old microsoft optical that had a short in the wire. On the plus side, I guess the battery lasts a really long while compared to the mx700.

I'm going to keep saying this until someone can tell me that all of them are fixed, or even better yet that logitech has publicy admitted to a manufacturing problem. You know those old opticals that had lasers that didn't track very well? That was because the technology was immature. Having the mx700/500/510 out, I don't think logitech had to rush to market with something that wasn't finished, or fully thought through.

 

[BoomAM]

Thats a actual fault and you should RMA it. Dont make excuses. You got a bad one, thats bad luck. Im sure 99% of people in this thread have gotten a dud product at some time that needed replacing. But i bet all them dont complain about the product like something rotten.
Most people who post about it complain about it. If we asked people to post who are pleased with it, im sure the numbers would dwarf the complainers.

 

[BOLt]

Yeah, I almost considered the MX1000, but I'm going with the MX510 purely based on price. I am already comfortable with optical mice and I've heard nothing but good things about the MX510. I just don't see the real benefit in having "20X laser precision, or whatever." In any case, thanks for the heads-up.

 

[tweeve2002]

Sence I have had my MX1000 I have just about stoped using mouse pads...with 20X the percision of a normal optical mouse, there really is no need for a mouse pad in most cases.


as for you few people that are having problems with it, Im sorry, I love mine. but just like every porduct out there, there are going to be a few that dont works like they are supost to. just retrun it, replace it, or get rid of it.

O and it has one nice feature that I have never seen on any wireless mouse before, an off switch!!

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Thats a actual fault and you should RMA it. Dont make excuses. You got a bad one, thats bad luck. Im sure 99% of people in this thread have gotten a dud product at some time that needed replacing. But i bet all them dont complain about the product like something rotten.
Most people who post about it complain about it. If we asked people to post who are pleased with it, im sure the numbers would dwarf the complainers.

A lot of people have posted in this thead with the same issues. A video was recorded of one of the issues; this is a product that has more than a 'few' defective samples. We aren't all from the same area, probably didn't buy them at the same locations, and likely all have different setups. If it was a bad batch then it should be announced, but people are posting as close by as a few days ago with issues, so those problem products are still out there.

At first logitech says that this mouse is the perfect mouse for fast movement etc, then later labels it a CAD product after people complain it is horrible for gaming. Great job And that's not even really a bash at logitech, I absolutely love my MX510, and the MX700 is a good mouse but I don't prefer it. I just know for certian that there are quite a few defective mice around- whether those defects are bugs or features I have no idea.

I returned it and got my money back so it's not about me needing service from them, after seeing how many other people posted with problems I decided that it would be better just to return it and keep my current mouse, because for the most part the people not experiencing problems dont use a mouse the same way that I do, and that's absolutely fine. If it works for them, great! But a mouse should not exhibit the problems that myself and other have had, period. If anyone actually has RMA'd it and gotten it fixed, feel free to post and let us know if the new mouse doesn't exhibit your prior problems. I would love to have a fully working mouse cordless mouse with the kind of battery life that people are getting out of it.