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weepul

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: weepul
might be a cheap solution for those who want to use skypeout for free till end of 2006. at first i was hoping these were USB headsets, but turns out to be regular mic and audio out cables.

//krunk (^_^x)

USB headsets put a TAX on your CPU and RAM while tradional sets put little or no load on your PC. IF you understood how usb audio worked then you may not be saying what you are saying. Ususaly USB D/A conversion is not quite as good as what you would get from your sound card. Audio purists will always demand a discreete sound card and mini-jack headphones, the quality is much better, and the headphones are not restricted for computer use only.

from http://www.headsets.com/headsets/computer/computer_rec.html

Analog vs. USB

The main difference between USB and Analog headsets is the plug. Although many manufacturers state that USB headsets have digital signal processors that enhance the sound, we have not been able to discern any noticeable difference. So if you have a sound card, get an analog headset, you will save some money. It comes with two jacks, one for the speakers, and one for the microphone, each clearly marked. The USB headsets do not need a sound card and are a little easier to plug in, since they only have one jack.

from http://livephone.us/usb.html

Sound cards receive your computer signals and convert them to analog. USB, on the other hand, goes directly to your computer's digital interface. For professional business class audio quality, USB is the answer. We use USB headsets from Telex and Hello Direct.

from http://www.everythingusb.com/logitech_premium_usb_headset_350.html
Verdicts: At $50, Logitech's Premium USB Headset 350 is priced to compete with similar analog headsets, and with a sound twice as good, it is heavily recommended.

from http://freenetcalls.co.uk/usb.html
USB, or universal serial bus, is a plug and play function. The difference between USB audio and an audio card interface can be startling. Some of our conversations with callers half way around the world were so clear we could hear birds in the background, and full depth and tone of the callers voice.

i didn't handpick the above, did a search on the query: difference analog between usb headsets and those were the ones that were relative on the 1st page. i'd actually like to see some reviews that say how much better analog headsets are than usb headsets.

i'm not exactly sure where you're getting your facts from, but ASSUMING you're correct, most people don't really need extreme audio quality with surround sound for chatting. if i'm not chatting, i wouldn't be using my headset in the 1st place. who'd in the right mind would use a headset to listen to music instead of a pair of sennheiser, shure or etymotic.

another problem with analog headsets is for those of use who don't have audio ports in the front (especially the mic port), it's awful to have it stretch to the back of the computer. i'd rather have the convenience of one plug and being able to stick it somewhere convenient as i'd probably be plugging it in and unplugging it alot if i'm going to be using it. i'd rather audio go out of my regular headphones or speakers when i'm not chatting.

//krunk (^_^x)
 

jamesbond007

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I have owned these before and the muffs squeezed the living crap out of my head! I wear glasses and my ears would hurt after a mere 20 or 30 minutes of use because they would squish my ear into my glasses' bows.

I returned them at my local Best Buy and traded them for a set of Altec Lansings and haven't looked back.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: brownzilla786
I heard they arent very nice, but for the low prices go for it

Logitech headsets sound like a 50¢ no name made in China Special. I bought one then returned it with in five minutes of listening to them on an iPOD at Best Buy. If you want quality then condider a set of Shure earbuds. If you have enough cash to burn then get a pair of E5C or the newer E500's. Combine those with a dedicated Shure (lapel style?) microphone and you have a complete high quality VoIP, music, and recording solution.


http://www.shurestore.com/earphones/index.html
http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manuf.../shure/shure-e500.php?datafeed=froogle

Why would you buy a headset just for listening to music? I'd rather buy headphones instead.

My Logitech USB 250 headset works great, no complaints at all. The ear muffs are a little uncomfortable after 4+ hours but that's about it.

I like you Ross, but that statement is ignorant.

How is that statement ignorant? What kind of idiot who claims to be a music aficionado would use a headset?

You can get something like an E2C or E2G that still would rock the pants off any Logitech and most Sennheiser headsets.

for $20?
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: weepul
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: weepul
might be a cheap solution for those who want to use skypeout for free till end of 2006. at first i was hoping these were USB headsets, but turns out to be regular mic and audio out cables.

//krunk (^_^x)

USB headsets put a TAX on your CPU and RAM while tradional sets put little or no load on your PC. IF you understood how usb audio worked then you may not be saying what you are saying. Ususaly USB D/A conversion is not quite as good as what you would get from your sound card. Audio purists will always demand a discreete sound card and mini-jack headphones, the quality is much better, and the headphones are not restricted for computer use only.

from http://www.headsets.com/headsets/computer/computer_rec.html

Analog vs. USB

The main difference between USB and Analog headsets is the plug. Although many manufacturers state that USB headsets have digital signal processors that enhance the sound, we have not been able to discern any noticeable difference. So if you have a sound card, get an analog headset, you will save some money. It comes with two jacks, one for the speakers, and one for the microphone, each clearly marked. The USB headsets do not need a sound card and are a little easier to plug in, since they only have one jack.

from http://livephone.us/usb.html

Sound cards receive your computer signals and convert them to analog. USB, on the other hand, goes directly to your computer's digital interface. For professional business class audio quality, USB is the answer. We use USB headsets from Telex and Hello Direct.

from http://www.everythingusb.com/logitech_premium_usb_headset_350.html
Verdicts: At $50, Logitech's Premium USB Headset 350 is priced to compete with similar analog headsets, and with a sound twice as good, it is heavily recommended.

from http://freenetcalls.co.uk/usb.html
USB, or universal serial bus, is a plug and play function. The difference between USB audio and an audio card interface can be startling. Some of our conversations with callers half way around the world were so clear we could hear birds in the background, and full depth and tone of the callers voice.

i didn't handpick the above, did a search on the query: difference analog between usb headsets and those were the ones that were relative on the 1st page. i'd actually like to see some reviews that say how much better analog headsets are than usb headsets.

i'm not exactly sure where you're getting your facts from, but ASSUMING you're correct, most people don't really need extreme audio quality with surround sound for chatting. if i'm not chatting, i wouldn't be using my headset in the 1st place. who'd in the right mind would use a headset to listen to music instead of a pair of sennheiser, shure or etymotic.

another problem with analog headsets is for those of use who don't have audio ports in the front (especially the mic port), it's awful to have it stretch to the back of the computer. i'd rather have the convenience of one plug and being able to stick it somewhere convenient as i'd probably be plugging it in and unplugging it alot if i'm going to be using it. i'd rather audio go out of my regular headphones or speakers when i'm not chatting.

//krunk (^_^x)

You tell him krunk!
 

mb

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FWIW I've been ordering from provantage for years and never had a problem. Odd to see that their RR is low. I guess I should look up my order numbers and give them some feedback.
 

duragezic

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My Sennhesier PC150s were just $30 shipped. I'd spend the $10 more and get something like that rather then these Logitechs. If the shipping wasn't so much this would be a great deal for a low-end headset.
 

Gilby

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another problem with analog headsets is for those of use who don't have audio ports in the front (especially the mic port), it's awful to have it stretch to the back of the computer. i'd rather have the convenience of one plug and being able to stick it somewhere convenient as i'd probably be plugging it in and unplugging it alot if i'm going to be using it. i'd rather audio go out of my regular headphones or speakers when i'm not chatting.

//krunk (^_^x)

Did you read the crap you decided to quote?

Or is comprehension a bit beyond you?
 

Sanjoelo

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Originally posted by: RossMAN


My Logitech USB 250 headset works great, no complaints at all. The ear muffs are a little uncomfortable after 4+ hours but that's about it.

Glad to hear it, I just picked up a set the other day from Amazon. Wanted a good balance of inexpensive and functional.

 

ActuaryTm

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"Sound" advice (pun intended) from Googer? Not likely.

Ross' point "resonates" true - any true audiophile (or even a half-knowledgeable pretender) knows desired usage often dictates quality, and that comparative statements can be issued only at equal or near equal budgets. At this price point, it's extremely ludicrous to make comparisons to anything other than similar products available at more or less the same cost. With this headset running over $20, I personally would still lean toward something along the lines of the PC150 (which are often offered near $30).

And on that "note", we now return you to your regularly scheduled Hot Deal.
 

weepul

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Originally posted by: Gilby
another problem with analog headsets is for those of use who don't have audio ports in the front (especially the mic port), it's awful to have it stretch to the back of the computer. i'd rather have the convenience of one plug and being able to stick it somewhere convenient as i'd probably be plugging it in and unplugging it alot if i'm going to be using it. i'd rather audio go out of my regular headphones or speakers when i'm not chatting.

//krunk (^_^x)

Did you read the crap you decided to quote?

Or is comprehension a bit beyond you?

are you trying to troll or was that a legit question?

ASSUMING that was a legit question, I did in fact read the articles I've quoted and if you did too, you would've noticed that every one of them said there were no major difference between analog vs usb or that USB was in fact better. I have yet to see an review that said analog was better than USB.

If you're having problems understanding the 'crap' I posted, I can help you try to comprehend what they're saying, but it'd probably be a lost cause since they're already written in like elementary school English. Or was undrestanding English your problem... then my bad.

//krunk (^_^x)
 

Gilby

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Originally posted by: weepul
ASSUMING that was a legit question, I did in fact read the articles I've quoted and if you did too, you would've noticed that every one of them said there were no major difference between analog vs usb or that USB was in fact better. I have yet to see an review that said analog was better than USB.

If you're having problems understanding the 'crap' I posted, I can help you try to comprehend what they're saying, but it'd probably be a lost cause since they're already written in like elementary school English. Or was undrestanding English your problem... then my bad.

//krunk (^_^x)

Nope.

You didn't read them.

Two sites used the exact same copy for their advertisement (yes, advertisement.) Nice if you want to be sold on what they're selling, but generally a big stop sign for getting any sort of serious info.

The review on everythingusb is the real kicker, though. He doesn't know anything, and it shows in his review. The only point that he really managed to make is that his on-board sound card has some issues--though he couldn't actually tell you why switching to the USB headset changed that. Nor, do I expect, could you.

So. What did you post? A few pages with add copy and a review posted by someone who really isn't any sort of knowledgable authority. You really need to work on judging your sources of information before you offer them up to support your point. Keep looking. You might be able to find something. But the fact that you have yet to see a review "that said analog was better than USB," given your lack of ability to judge information quality, really doesn't show a thing.
 
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Not a bad price, but I would defintely go the Newegg route if I were to purchase.

Purchased these almost 8 months ago. I'm a huge Logitech fan and own many of their products, but disliked this headset very much. As some have suggested before me, wearing the headset after awhile can definitely take a toll on your head and ears. I also experienced similar problems with the headset dying on me. After being babied for nearly 6 months it finally crapped out on me.

personally I would much rather spend a few extra dollars on a headset than settle for this one.
 

Rapier

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First off IMHO, FPS gamers get pwned in CS:S, WOW, Quakex, etc. by people wearing good headsets. You literally don't know what you're missing in these games while you sneak around corners, etc. I own a pair of the Plantronics GAME COM PRO 1 USB for my hours of CS:S. You can hear their foot steps and every detail to it (the different texture of the surface they are walking on) Also there is better distinction on where the enemy is located. Nothing like surprising somebody without good headphones.

I got my Plantronics about a year ago and they are great.

Froggle
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Rapier
First off IMHO, FPS gamers get pwned in CS:S, WOW, Quakex, etc. by people wearing good headsets. You literally don't know what you're missing in these games while you sneak around corners, etc. I own a pair of the Plantronics GAME COM PRO 1 USB for my hours of CS:S. You can hear their foot steps and every detail to it (the different texture of the surface they are walking on) Also there is better distinction on where the enemy is located. Nothing like surprising somebody without good headphones.

I got my Plantronics about a year ago and they are great.

Froggle

Got the same set and the only "complaints" I have about them are the size of that DSP "bar" and it's a little uncomfortable to wear for a long time. My ears feel sore after a few hours.

It can be a little cumbersome. But otherwise, awesome headset.
 

Havoc13

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For clarification;

Audio 90 = GameCom 1 (standard headset connections)
DSP 500 = GameCom 1 Pro (USB w/ sound processing)

I would guess that you won't be finding GameCom 1 Pro's for under $45 shipped.


My first pair of Audio90's lasted through 3 years of abuse, and I guess I'm lucky as I have had no sore ear problems.
 

Rapier

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Originally posted by: Havoc13
For clarification;

Audio 90 = GameCom 1 (standard headset connections)
DSP 500 = GameCom 1 Pro (USB w/ sound processing)

I would guess that you won't be finding GameCom 1 Pro's for under $45 shipped.


My first pair of Audio90's lasted through 3 years of abuse, and I guess I'm lucky as I have had no sore ear problems.

I really like the usb version. It has the DSP, when you plug it in it takes over the audio output so I don't have to unplug my Logitech 5.1 speakers, and it automatically adjusts the WinXP speaker configuration from the existing 5.1 channel to headphones and reduces the volume slightly.

 

cheapherk

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: brownzilla786
I heard they arent very nice, but for the low prices go for it

Logitech headsets sound like a 50¢ no name made in China Special. I bought one then returned it with in five minutes of listening to them on an iPOD at Best Buy. If you want quality then condider a set of Shure earbuds. If you have enough cash to burn then get a pair of E5C or the newer E500's. Combine those with a dedicated Shure (lapel style?) microphone and you have a complete high quality VoIP, music, and recording solution.

First of all, these aren't meant for listening to music. For the price, it should be a no brainer.

I don't know what you are accustomed to, but I like mine. You can't beat that price.
 

weepul

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Originally posted by: Gilby
Originally posted by: weepul
ASSUMING that was a legit question, I did in fact read the articles I've quoted and if you did too, you would've noticed that every one of them said there were no major difference between analog vs usb or that USB was in fact better. I have yet to see an review that said analog was better than USB.

If you're having problems understanding the 'crap' I posted, I can help you try to comprehend what they're saying, but it'd probably be a lost cause since they're already written in like elementary school English. Or was undrestanding English your problem... then my bad.

//krunk (^_^x)

Nope.

You didn't read them.

Two sites used the exact same copy for their advertisement (yes, advertisement.) Nice if you want to be sold on what they're selling, but generally a big stop sign for getting any sort of serious info.

The review on everythingusb is the real kicker, though. He doesn't know anything, and it shows in his review. The only point that he really managed to make is that his on-board sound card has some issues--though he couldn't actually tell you why switching to the USB headset changed that. Nor, do I expect, could you.

So. What did you post? A few pages with add copy and a review posted by someone who really isn't any sort of knowledgable authority. You really need to work on judging your sources of information before you offer them up to support your point. Keep looking. You might be able to find something. But the fact that you have yet to see a review "that said analog was better than USB," given your lack of ability to judge information quality, really doesn't show a thing.

Well, lets change the subject and see WHAT you posted. You pointed out that my sources are invalid because they're nothing more than ads and people who didn't know wtf they're talking about and you Mr. big shot appear to know.

So why don't you prove to us why analog is better than USB for headsets.

And yes in fact I can explain why the USB headset fixed his issue. USB headsets have their own sound processing that do not rely on the sound card.

So lets take a look at what you posted:
you told me i posted crap (threadcrapping)
you told me my sources were "unreliable" (yet you don't post any "reliable" sources yourself).
you think you know more than I do (which you apparently don't, see my explanation on why his sound card issue was fixed and you couldn't figure out why)

my sources may not be professional, but they're not random postings on random forums either. these are real pages part of a store that sells headsets, sites with information regarding voip, and a review site.

so before you start crapping on my posts, you better be sure you have enough upstairs or you'll be eating your own crap.

a few more sources from a different search query: usb analog headset better

http://www.btpi.com/index.cfm?page=_faq&faqcategory=PC%20HEADSETS
Should I use a digital or an analog computer headset?

If an additional USB port is available, then the digital headset will provide the best incoming and outgoing sound.

http://www.thetechlounge.com/article/214/Logitech+USB+350+Headset/
With normal headphones using the 3.5mm audio jack, the sound card translates your voice from analog to digital signals. Because of the varying ways different soundcards translate these signals, some of the voice information is lost and can degrade the signal quality for use with speech recognition software. A USB headset doesn?t use the soundcard and can interact directly with applications which can benefit not only speech recognition software, but VOIP and online gaming as well. However, these benefits are more prominent when compared to onboard audio solutions and low-end sound cards. If you have a high-end soundcard such as the Audigy 2, a good analog headset will deliver better performance and fidelity, especially for music and movies. With that being said, let?s take a look at the Logitech USB Headset 350.

once again as i reiterate (if you've read my personal opinion):

most people don't really need extreme audio quality with surround sound for chatting. if i'm not chatting, i wouldn't be using my headset in the 1st place. who'd in the right mind would use a headset to listen to music instead of a pair of sennheiser, shure or etymotic.

another problem with analog headsets is for those of use who don't have audio ports in the front (especially the mic port), it's awful to have it stretch to the back of the computer. i'd rather have the convenience of one plug and being able to stick it somewhere convenient as i'd probably be plugging it in and unplugging it alot if i'm going to be using it. i'd rather audio go out of my regular headphones or speakers when i'm not chatting.


usb headsets are most likely better quality than regular phones (not saying regular phones are that great to begin with) but when you're chatting, phone quality is more than enough. just think about bluetooth headsets which are exactly the same as usb where they transfer the audio digitally and no one's complained how crappy bluetooth chatting is, have they? Do people prefer regular analog headsets over bluetooth on their cellphone? Do people think that analog headsets sound better than bluetooth?

if you're thinking about high end audio recording, you wouldn't even be looking at these headsets in the 1st place because these microphones are crap!

If you're going to say what I'm saying is crap, at least provide what you think. Post like yours are useless because they do nothing besides say, "Your post is stupid." which is exactly what a troll is.

troll

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

//krunk (^_^x)
 
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