This is kind of a strange way to get a hot deal and it may be YMMV. I called up Logitech to get my RMA status for my Z-560's (What a nightmare). The lady said there was a special on the Logitech Forcefeedback joystick. I said no at first, but since I was on the internet while I was on the phone with her I decided to check out what the joystick costs normally. Apparently the cheapest I found on pricewatch was about 55. Most places however had it in the 80 dollar range. The 800 number I called for RMA was 1-800-231-7717..... so I thought maybe if you just called up and asked about their special they just might hook you up. Shipping was 5 dollars.