Logitech Z-5500s the new Klipsch Killers

CVSiN

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Well I went ahead and sprung for the new Logitech Z5500s.. $399.00
I must say.. they did a great job this time..
these speakers sound way better than my Klipsch did before the amp blew up..

Bass when you really need it or dont.. 10 inch 188 watt sub now replaces the 8.
Its set so it can be tuned all the way out independantly from all other channels so its there when you want it and not when you dont..
for Movies crank it up.. the sats more than balance it out with great highs and mids also.

for Doom3 in 5.1 mode... yikes insane....
Star Wars DVD Jedi.. Endor Ewok battle holy crap.. way more convincing than my Klipschs..
Klipsch's sounded like a tin can compared to this in DTS...

Anyway I tried the same apps and Music that I used to play on my Klipsch's and they seem to sound better to my ear. from Classical music peices to Games to movies to techno...
these speakers were worth paying the 399 for over another set of Promedias at 350...

give them a try!
 

CVSiN

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Im not sure I never had the 680s...
it sounds like my much bigger Home theater now...

the bass is definatly strong and will not distort even when maxed out...

But you can really tune the bass to your liking using the independant volume and being able to tune it with the Audigy2 control panel..

It sounds great...
I played World of Warcraft all day yesterday and the bass was there when it needed to be but otherwise was very mellow...

I liked the Highs of my Klipsch setup but it never had enough OOOMPH... well this has the great highs and mids and if you want it truckloads of OOMPH...

 

PinchyCM

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klipsch didn't have enough oomph? you have no idea what you're talking bout. the ultras blow the 680s out of the water in every category: highs, mids, and lows. i owned both. there's no sub that can extend as low or as loud without port noise as the klipsch ultra sub. the mids and highs? they don't even compare.

also, being the fact that the new logitech setup is still using the pretty much same crossover design for their driverrs and is still using "worthless phase plugs" and no tweeters already makes it inferior to any higher end MM system like the gigaworks or ultras. i'll give them a listen, but i'm pretty sure this won't differ much from their 680 set, which had no highs, colored mids, and over extended, bleedy bass.
 

Chapbass

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just a question...which klipsch speakers did you have?

you said THE 8"....making me possibly think something other than the ultra 5.1's....

Does the GMX line use a single 8? because i could see the logitech being better than those (which IMO was a bad marketing move by klipsch, but whatever, different day diff. topic.).

I can't see ANYONE saying that the klipsch ultra 5.1's dont have enough oomph....
 

Kaido

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are the z-5500's the z-680 replacements?
 

Spikesoldier

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id imagine so, it seems like they are switching to the newer 4 digit model numbers.

z2200
z5300
z5500

maybe first digit is satelites, and the remaining 3 numbers is wattage?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
id imagine so, it seems like they are switching to the newer 4 digit model numbers.

z2200
z5300
z5500

maybe first digit is satelites, and the remaining 3 numbers is wattage?

that makes sense...the z-2200s are 200 watts...
 

fstime

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Logitech speakers are more tuned for youngsters with defective hearing aids than for those who enjoy detail and transparency.ALL Logitech speakers so far are BOOMY and will irritate anyone who knows how real high quality speakers should sound.

The new Z5500 uses a 10" woofer probably tuned to the same frequency as the Z-680 it replaces.Since as was stated before Logitech's clientele likes the extra fat bass around 60-80Hz.As most of their low-fi downloaded from Kazaa MP3's make the Loudtech boom like drums.

Anyone who values fidelity over flash and gizmos will take a Klipsch 5.1 Ultra or the Cambridge GigaWorks over the Loudtech any day.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Logitech speakers are more tuned for youngsters with defective hearing aids than for those who enjoy detail and transparency.ALL Logitech speakers so far are BOOMY and will irritate anyone who knows how real high quality speakers should sound.

The new Z5500 uses a 10" woofer probably tuned to the same frequency as the Z-680 it replaces.Since as was stated before Logitech's clientele likes the extra fat bass around 60-80Hz.As most of their low-fi downloaded from Kazaa MP3's make the Loudtech boom like drums.

Anyone who values fidelity over flash and gizmos will take a Klipsch 5.1 Ultra or the Cambridge GigaWorks over the Loudtech any day.

I personally love Logitech speakers. I've got a set of z-640s hooked up to the TV and my got my fiancee a set of z-3s for her computer. They sound great to me and they fit my budget. I'm not really sure if I even want to hear higher-end stuff, because I like what I have now. The only thing I'd upgrade to are z-680s for the 'home theater'.

I'm not much of an audiophile tho. My dream system is a nice-sized Sony Wega, a Zenith DVB-318, and Logitech z-680s, or maybe an Infocus X1 projector. I mean, I'm the kind of guy who can get engrossed in a show even if it's with sound coming from the TV itself. I just like to enjoy the movie, and I'm pleased with the better-than-TV-quality sound that I get from the Logitechs
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Logitech speakers are more tuned for youngsters with defective hearing aids than for those who enjoy detail and transparency.ALL Logitech speakers so far are BOOMY and will irritate anyone who knows how real high quality speakers should sound.

The new Z5500 uses a 10" woofer probably tuned to the same frequency as the Z-680 it replaces.Since as was stated before Logitech's clientele likes the extra fat bass around 60-80Hz.As most of their low-fi downloaded from Kazaa MP3's make the Loudtech boom like drums.

Anyone who values fidelity over flash and gizmos will take a Klipsch 5.1 Ultra or the Cambridge GigaWorks over the Loudtech any day.

Dude..
#1 im 33 I dont listen to any bass music...
I had the Klipsch Promedia Ultras... they sound like tin cans even playing classical where the bass is fairly mellow..

They dont have the bass for movies and games when you actually want to feel it...

I do not listen to music on this system it is purely for watching movies and playing games...
I have Sony MDR V600s for music reproduction or my Infinity (old Infinity not the new POS ones) system that are very very clear and precise...
The Logitech 5500s sound better and are way more tunable than the promedias...

How can you fanbois just blindly slam something you havent even heard except in the crappy accustics of a store where you cant tell crap...
for the record they did not sound good at all at compusa where I was looking at replacing my Klipsch set..
but was sold on these by the real sub and better stats..

maybe Im deaf from working on Jet engines for 10 years.. but these sound better and fuller to me...

whomever said the highs were terrible needs to really listen to these.. they arent the same crappy speakers as the 680s....
they have just as much highs and mids as my klipsch to my ear..
 

PinchyCM

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LOL, perhaps it is the jet engines then. Or perhaps it was your source? There is no way a Logitech sub can best the Ultra sub. OR their sats. NO WAY. Just look at the design. Do you honestly think that a single driver design is capable of producing good highs? I think not. Again, a way miss on the highs, colored and over saturated mids, and an exaggerated 60-90hz bass that overextends into everything and bleeds. It's just a simple fact that even wannabe audiophiles will stay clear of Logitech when it comes to MM (as if MM can even be considered audiophile goods).

I've been using REAL audio equipment for years, and I can tell crap when I hear it. Don't get me wrong, they're great for the money, but they are by no means musical or more "powerful." It's just like saying you like putting two 10" subs in a Honda Civic because it's musical, or claiming BOSE products have good reproduction. I'm not a fanboy, I know what I'm looking for.

BTW, The MDR series is horrific when it comes to reproduction. Even an low end Grado set or Sennheiser would take that set to school, for a better value. Grab yourself a pair of Etymotics with an amp or something, and you'll hear what real music is supposed to sound like.
 

PinchyCM

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BTW, in a 20x20 room, the Ultra sub produces such articule and controlled bass it's amazing. It rivals small HT subs. I' had the Logitech set for a while, and I've even done a A-B Comparo. It's not even close. I think most people who don't understand audio mistake port noise for power. It's distortion folks.
 

PinchyCM

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Originally posted by: Chapbass
just a question...which klipsch speakers did you have?

you said THE 8"....making me possibly think something other than the ultra 5.1's....

Does the GMX line use a single 8? because i could see the logitech being better than those (which IMO was a bad marketing move by klipsch, but whatever, different day diff. topic.).

I can't see ANYONE saying that the klipsch ultra 5.1's dont have enough oomph....



Yeah, I noticed that as well - the Klipsch Ultras use a dual 8" side firing driver powered by the infamous B.A.S.H amp
 

Sheriff

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I wanna know about the mid highs as I'm ready to rid my Klipsch but have been eyeballing the CLabs Giggaworks that have seperate mid/highs with the titanium tweets which I love so much. Now I realise that all these mega speaks are in the same class and it's a matter of preference but don't the Logi's have a single 3" driver for the mid/highs?
 

PinchyCM

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your klipsch don't have tweeters? i.m.o., the gigas are a TINY bit better than the ultras when it comes to the way highs, but i find the sound a bit shrill. that's just me though - i really enjoy the sound of horns.

and yes, the logitechs use a single crappy driver for the high/mid range.
 

Sheriff

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LOL...well PinchyCM me, thanks for the jist as now way a single 3" will beat the Klipsch and Gigas so I'll get the Gigas and if I don't like them (which i doubt) I'll jump back to my Klipsch
 

yhelothar

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I believe the sub on the Z5500 is really an 8" driver, and they put a second 10" cone on the outside to amplify the bass. That's what they did with the Z-640. The result, BIG BOOMY BASS. :disgust:
There's no way the design of that sub can provide nice articulate bass. Another set of logitech tincans:roll:
 

PinchyCM

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Originally posted by: Sheriff
LOL...well PinchyCM me, thanks for the jist as now way a single 3" will beat the Klipsch and Gigas so I'll get the Gigas and if I don't like them (which i doubt) I'll jump back to my Klipsch

do you have the ultras?
 

Sheriff

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Originally posted by: PinchyCM
Originally posted by: Sheriff
LOL...well PinchyCM me, thanks for the jist as now way a single 3" will beat the Klipsch and Gigas so I'll get the Gigas and if I don't like them (which i doubt) I'll jump back to my Klipsch

do you have the ultras?

No the Promedia 2.1's X2...sound good though

 
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