Logitech "Z-640" "Z-680" deals/pricing discussion

[unsped]

i have 2 sets of z560's ... swtiching to an external dolby digital decoder (midiland ads 4000) helped ALOT. I use a nvidia nforce so all the stuff from my pc is encoded and set to the decoder.

however I have the same complaint with the z560's that I had with my midiland 8200's ... as long as all the speakers are only 1-way ... it will just never sound right in a home theatre environment. also the bass is excessive, nothing some baffling and settings on the decoder can't fix though.

its not worth it for me to upgrade yet, but if my logitechs were to explode tommorrow. I would be hard pressed between the klipsch 5.1's and a real speaker setup.

so far ive used sblive, hercules in 6.1, and now nforce in 5.1

once you go from software decoding to hardware decoding, youll never go back.

 

[gizzard]

Just curious, are you guys forgetting that the Z-680's come with a decoder and the Klipsch set does not? And probably the reason why the Z640's are cheap is because it doesn't not include a decoder either.

 

[huesmann]

Those 680s look PHAT!

 

[Gs400TRd]

I have the klipsch 5.1 currently.
i am going to have my computer room finished in about a month.
I was wondering If I could connect both the Klipsch and z-680's together??? isthe only thing needed a splitter?
I have an audigy platinum card.
thanks.

 

[Zclyh3]

I don't man. I have an Audigy X-Gamer. When I connect two z-560's, one had more power than the other. I mean, the speakers were the same, but the subwoofers had problems. The power that flows to the sub was not evenly distributed. So, one set is enough. I have a brand new z-560 that I'm going to sell. I have no use for it.

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: Evilmage
So nobody cares that the z560s are considerably less than the Klipsch 4.1s? I mean, its roughly 50% more for the Klipsch or about 100 dollars.

Think about it, 50% more in the cost. If you were comparing cars, it woudl be a 45k care compared to a 30k care. With one amount, you can talk about buying a Nissan Maxima(quick example) on the other hand, you can almost buy a Lexus 430. Which is better? The Lexus of course, why? Because its more expensive. However, you can't say the Maxima doesn't offer a good car for the price. (Once again, stick with the point, don't start flaming maximas)

So my point being, you get what you pay for. If you decide you want to pay an extra 100 dollars for a Klipsch, then so be it. But don't automatically say the z560s suck just because they're not quite as good as the Klipsch in mids. Most of us got our z560s at a little over a hundred. Because most of the people I know and almost every hardware reviewer agree that this is the best bang for the buck. Which is why its so popular.

Sorry about the little rant, I get rather annoyed that people don't put price into consideration here. All I hear is people going on and on about how one item is better than another but don't consider how expensive it is. So stop telling me my z560s suck because the more expensive high end speakers are better.

Compare them to the Altec Lansing 641's... their about the same price. The Logitechs have slightly louder bass, but the altecs are much deeper and cleaner sound, have much better mids and highs also. And trust me the fact that the altecs are 400 watt max 200 watt RMS and the logitechs are 400W RMS... no difference, you can hook up a 600 watt amp to crappy speakers, their still crappy speakers. The altecs get as loud as the logitechs but they stay CLEAN at loud volume, logitechs get distroted (ESPECIALLY the sub) and sound crappy cranked up.

 

[TranceNation]

just got the 640s from techsavings.com, they are very nice.

 

[ynotravid]

Originally posted by: Evilmage
So nobody cares that the z560s are considerably less than the Klipsch 4.1s? I mean, its roughly 50% more for the Klipsch or about 100 dollars.

Think about it, 50% more in the cost. If you were comparing cars, it woudl be a 45k care compared to a 30k care. With one amount, you can talk about buying a Nissan Maxima(quick example) on the other hand, you can almost buy a Lexus 430. Which is better? The Lexus of course, why? Because its more expensive. However, you can't say the Maxima doesn't offer a good car for the price. (Once again, stick with the point, don't start flaming maximas)

So my point being, you get what you pay for. If you decide you want to pay an extra 100 dollars for a Klipsch, then so be it. But don't automatically say the z560s suck just because they're not quite as good as the Klipsch in mids. Most of us got our z560s at a little over a hundred. Because most of the people I know and almost every hardware reviewer agree that this is the best bang for the buck. Which is why its so popular.

Sorry about the little rant, I get rather annoyed that people don't put price into consideration here. All I hear is people going on and on about how one item is better than another but don't consider how expensive it is. So stop telling me my z560s suck because the more expensive high end speakers are better.

I agree with you. Maybe about 250 more words than I would have used but I agree with ya.

 

[NauTiKa128]

how come all of a sudden ppl are crapping about the 560s? I remember for the longest time the 560s were praised like crazy.. They don't sound bad at all.. I hope everyone knows how to adjust the bass/treble in windows.. I'm sure most of you do. And that guy that tried them out at Best Buy.. None of the speakers sound good at best buy.. cuz the crappy radio quality music they play on them sounds like sh*t.. imo..

 

[ynotravid]

Originally posted by: NauTiKa128
how come all of a sudden ppl are crapping about the 560s?

Cept for me.

 

[elanarchist]

I also just got my Z-640's from techsavings. Didn't receieve a confirmation email as promised, that pissed me off, but it arrived relativly promptly (less than a week) and was securly packaged. I guess I would order again from techsavings if it was cheaper than newegg, wasn't the hell that many of you seem to have had with EMS a.k.a. techsavings, maybe I was lucky? Anyways, the Z-640's rock! 5.1 for $75 shipped with awesome bass (better than in the z-540). And, its intelligently designed, like for instance the center speaker has a headphone jack on it, very convenient. My only complaint is that the cord length is a bit short for each of the satelites, and so I had to compromise a bit on where I put them in my dorm room. So, if you can afford the little extra for the 640's I think its definetly worth it over the 540's. Anyways, bottom line is, my new 640's will make me many new enemies in the dorm

 

[sygyzy]

How long are the speaker wires for the rear speakers? Are there places for you to mount them on the walls? I need to run line from my tv, up the wall, over my ceiling and down behind my sofa.

 

[Zclyh3]

Originally posted by: elanarchist
I also just got my Z-640's from techsavings. Didn't receieve a confirmation email as promised, that pissed me off, but it arrived relativly promptly (less than a week) and was securly packaged. I guess I would order again from techsavings if it was cheaper than newegg, wasn't the hell that many of you seem to have had with EMS a.k.a. techsavings, maybe I was lucky? Anyways, the Z-640's rock! 5.1 for $75 shipped with awesome bass (better than in the z-540). And, its intelligently designed, like for instance the center speaker has a headphone jack on it, very convenient. My only complaint is that the cord length is a bit short for each of the satelites, and so I had to compromise a bit on where I put them in my dorm room. So, if you can afford the little extra for the 640's I think its definetly worth it over the 540's. Anyways, bottom line is, my new 640's will make me many new enemies in the dorm

Don't be dorming next to me. My 2 x z-560's will blow you out of the water... =)

 

[Bellgoody]

N/M

 

[rydercurry]

Well, I do NOT like my klipsch 5.1
I bought the logitech z 560 ($140 , pricematched) and blew my first set the first night I had them, watching the matrix They just shut off and the power led on the control pod was not even on. So I sent them back to staples (free shipping) and got another set and the second set started cracking when the bass was turned up too much, It got so bad that I had the bass turned off and they would still crack. So I got mad and sent them back and ordered the Klipsch 5.1 system. As soon as I got the ($333 , gameve.com) 5.1 klipsch I played the Bass test on winamp, and to my dissatisfaction, the subwoffer did not hit near as hard as the logitechs. I like alot of bass in my games, rap music, and movies, but the klipsch do sound a little better with the tweeter test and classical music stuff. For twice as much money the klipsch 5.1 are just not worth it.
The klipsch 5.1 have 170 watts dedicated to the two dual firing 8" Subs, So that is 85 watts each I would believe.
The logitechs z-560 have188 watts devoted to the single 8" firing Sub and hit way harder than the klipsch 5.1, but I have already blown two sets.
I'm so dipleased with my klipsch 5.1 that I'm think about sending them back and going with another set of logitechs untill I get a pair that doesn't blow.
The best review I have come acroos is here www.3dsoundsurge.com and he measures the logitechs z560 and says they have the best bass If thats what you are looking for, but if you dont care about bass then the klipsch are a little better.
I personnaly believe that the logitechs sounded fine
Besides many things do not support the center speaker.

 

[flynclippr]

looks like there for sale in austrailia:

Link

 

[Gavin]

Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I don't know why, but Logitech sent me 2 sets of z-560s aftering RMAing it! So that means on top of the two systems I have, I have an extra 4 satelites! I can literally HOOK UP both sets with the same sound card. 800 watts of power!

How exactly do you come to that figure of 800w?

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: elanarchist
I also just got my Z-640's from techsavings. Didn't receieve a confirmation email as promised, that pissed me off, but it arrived relativly promptly (less than a week) and was securly packaged. I guess I would order again from techsavings if it was cheaper than newegg, wasn't the hell that many of you seem to have had with EMS a.k.a. techsavings, maybe I was lucky? Anyways, the Z-640's rock! 5.1 for $75 shipped with awesome bass (better than in the z-540). And, its intelligently designed, like for instance the center speaker has a headphone jack on it, very convenient. My only complaint is that the cord length is a bit short for each of the satelites, and so I had to compromise a bit on where I put them in my dorm room. So, if you can afford the little extra for the 640's I think its definetly worth it over the 540's. Anyways, bottom line is, my new 640's will make me many new enemies in the dorm

Grrr, I ordered from techsavigns a week ago and never got an e-mail from them to confirm my order, saw a bunch of script error type stuff after I ordered... don't see it on my charge card. I'm simply waiting to see if they've done anything with it before I order from somewhere else. Maybe I should try to contact them 1st...

Hassle.

OK, so I guess I should ask if there's a way to check the status on their web-site. I log in to my account and don't see anything about order history.... That or I have to wait until Monday.

Edit: Ok, ordered my z-640's from buy.com with a few other items and used a $10 off 100 visa promotion to get them for $69-$10 shipped free. I've just set them up, still tuning, but man are they sweet sounding.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Gavin

Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I don't know why, but Logitech sent me 2 sets of z-560s aftering RMAing it! So that means on top of the two systems I have, I have an extra 4 satelites! I can literally HOOK UP both sets with the same sound card. 800 watts of power!

How exactly do you come to that figure of 800w?

Z560 + Z560 = 2Z560

Z560 = 400

2 * 400 = 800

 

[thholr]

the Z-640s are now $58 plus shipping at techsavings.com.
I ordered mine last week and I have to say , I called 3 times to check on status , each time waited less than 5 minutes , very firendly and helpful people, even sent me shipping notification. Should receive them monday . Maybe I got lucky or maybe they are trying to clean up their act. Who knows.

 

[Banditking]

Another thing with listening to speakers at best buy. I walked by the speaker isle and the 560s were on. They sounded awful. I checked the settings and the bass was turned all the way to right and the fader all the way to the left. I reversed that and they sounded fine.

 

[Jakev3]

Creative Inspire 5300

 

[FFactory0x]

THE HTB-505 is a really good combo. Its this years version of last year HTB-504 which was an EXCELLANT package!!!!! The reciever alone is worth the money because it has great power/flexibility and a low thd%. I Own a VR-507 and this things rocks my $1100 stereo. I recooment you get that package over the computer speakers. The only this i do reccomend though it upgrade the included 18ga speaker wire with some cheap home depot or radio shack 14ga. It doesnt even have to be that big. 16ga would be fine.

 

[DallasTejas]

They may not drop off much in price since the 5.1 decoder for the Klipshe will set you back an additional $100 or so.

 

[thholr]

got my z-640 from techsavings, they are truly awesome sounding . Front speaker wires are a little short. But for $70 I doubt you can get a better set of speakers . didnt have any problems with techsavings.com . I called to check on my order twice since I was so impatient , but they shipped them out in 2 days and I had them in a total of 5 days .