Logitech Z-680 for $264 Shipped from Amazon

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: mato7742
what's this i hear about the logitech's not being able to perform digitally with creative sound cards? some guy on the amazon review said this:

"Audigy 2 cards do have digital output, but it is intended ONLY to work with Creative Labs Speakers. So if you try the digital out connection to the Z680's, you will be disappointed. "

That guy probably suck at computers.

 

[Tsunami982]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
wow i cant believe someone actually believes that the logitechs have better sound quality than klipschs. i have heard people say logitechs are better because; they are more bang for buck, they are louder, they have more bass, and they have that decoder. NEVER did i ever think anyone would say that logitech sound quality is better than klipschs. thats just sad.

Well I guess you haven't read many almost any reviews comparing the Klipsch ProMedia GMX D-5.1 to the Logitech Z-680s, because if you had you'd know that many of them favor the Z-680s in all aspects over the GMXs. This isn't to say that the Promedia 5.1s aren't better then the Z680s, but they're also over $100 more expensive.

People who talk out of their arse and try to influence other's when they don't know what they're talking about. That's just sad.

oh my bad... was it incorrect to assume that when comparing companies you have to compare thie comperable speakers? you cant compare logitechs best speakers with klipschs worst mistake. its like saying "well the kai sportage has more power than the chevy metro therefore kia is better than all chevys including the corvette."

and yeah i HAVE A PAIR OF Z680's that i bought for my gf, and yes i did put them side by side to and compared them. like i said in my original post... they are the best bang for the buck... but their sound quality is lacking.

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I have the Z680's and really like them. I got mine for free, but that's a whole 'nother story

and free is good... there is no arguing that.

 

[Warder45]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
wow i cant believe someone actually believes that the logitechs have better sound quality than klipschs. i have heard people say logitechs are better because; they are more bang for buck, they are louder, they have more bass, and they have that decoder. NEVER did i ever think anyone would say that logitech sound quality is better than klipschs. thats just sad.

Well I guess you haven't read many almost any reviews comparing the Klipsch ProMedia GMX D-5.1 to the Logitech Z-680s, because if you had you'd know that many of them favor the Z-680s in all aspects over the GMXs. This isn't to say that the Promedia 5.1s aren't better then the Z680s, but they're also over $100 more expensive.

People who talk out of their arse and try to influence other's when they don't know what they're talking about. That's just sad.

The GMX's are crap, almost everyone has said as much. Compare the 680's to the ProMedia 5.1's or ultras and you have some competition. From all I've heard the 680's seem to be louder and have more bass, thus better at games. Where as the Promedia's are much better at music.

For the deal, this isn't very hot, Newegg has them new for about $10 more. Tell me when they drop to $210 again and I'll salavate.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Warder45
The GMX's are crap, almost everyone has said as much. Compare the 680's to the ProMedia 5.1's or ultras and you have some competition. From all I've heard the 680's seem to be louder and have more bass, thus better at games. Where as the Promedia's are much better at music.

For the deal, this isn't very hot, Newegg has them new for about $10 more. Tell me when they drop to $210 again and I'll salavate.

Comparing the 680s to the ProMedia 5.1 Ultras would be alright, except there is $100 price gap in there. The GMX were designed to compete with the 680s, otherwise why price them at that level? If you read my post, you would see where I said the Klipsch 5.1s are better then the 680s. But let me reiterate, they're $100 more expensive. For $350, you might as well move on to a home theatre system and hook it up to your PC, IMO.

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
oh my bad... was it incorrect to assume that when comparing companies you have to compare thie comperable speakers? you cant compare logitechs best speakers with klipschs worst mistake. its like saying "well the kai sportage has more power than the chevy metro therefore kia is better than all chevys including the corvette."

and yeah i HAVE A PAIR OF Z680's that i bought for my gf, and yes i did put them side by side to and compared them. like i said in my original post... they are the best bang for the buck... but their sound quality is lacking.

It's not incorrect to assume that, in fact that's what everyone is doing. Considering the GMX's sell for $250 and the Promedia 5.1 Ultras sell for $360, which should we compare to the $260 Z680s? People are saying logitech is better because for the price and quality you get, it sure as hell is. If you want to do a car comparison, how about comparing a well-loaded Accord to a well-loaded Malibu, and then that Accord to a Corvette. (Accord = Z680s, Malibu and Corvette GMX and Ultras). You're assuming when people say Logitech is better they're comparing it to the Ultras, which is a horrible assumption.

In this price market, the Logitechs quality and features beat the Klipsch. No arguments about that.

Overall?

Klipsch has the best computer speakers on the market in the Ultra 5.1s

 

[MontyBurns]

Blind allegiance to a brand name is sure to screw you sooner or later. The Plextor fans learned that lesson the hard way, and now the Klipsch fan club is having the same reality check.

There's no question that for a long time, Klipsch was the leading innovator in computer speakers. But the logitech Z680s are simply amazing -- and the fact that they are cheaper than a comparable Klipsch model is icing on the cake.

 

[Tsunami982]

when people say KLIPSCH is better or LOGITECH is better, they are comparing the two companies. therefore you have to compare the best the two have to offer. klipschs good stuff is way out of the league of anything logitech could produce so it would be safe to assume logitech is competing with the promedia. the best logitech is 680 and the best klipsch is the 5.1 ultra. even if you want a price range comparison, compare the 680's with the original 5.1s (promedia still a little more expensive but if you look hard by only 25-25 bucks). the sound quality of the older klipschs are still by far better.

so in general klipschs are better than the logitechs in SOUND QUALITY. i already said bang for your buck goes to logitech. but i wasnt saying klipschs were better bang for buck... i was saying they have better sound quality.

 

[nickmarine]

I have a set and they are one of the best parts of my system
I would suggest getting heavier wire like I did at Home depot but the sound is rocking for music and pounds during gaming sessions.

Nice

Nick

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
so in general klipschs are better than the logitechs in SOUND QUALITY. i already said bang for your buck goes to logitech. but i wasnt saying klipschs were better bang for buck... i was saying they have better sound quality.

I'd have to say that used to be the case. But now, Klipsch no longer sells the 4.1 or 5.1 original systems. If you look hard enough you may be able to find 'em, but Klipsch has switched over to their GMX product line. You cannot buy the 4.1 or 5.1 regulars on their sites. Plain and simple, Klipsch has gone backwards with their GMX line, which has given Logitech the edge.

In general, Logitechs have the better sound quality now because Klipsch fvcked up royally by going with the GMX line.

Overall, Klipsch has the BEST sound quality.

 

[docinthebox]

Originally posted by: mato7742
what's this i hear about the logitech's not being able to perform digitally with creative sound cards? some guy on the amazon review said this:

"Audigy 2 cards do have digital output, but it is intended ONLY to work with Creative Labs Speakers. So if you try the digital out connection to the Z680's, you will be disappointed. "

You can disregard that comment. I'm running an Audigy 2 platinum with the z-680 speakers using a digital optical cable and they work *great* together.

 

[calam63]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
so in general klipschs are better than the logitechs in SOUND QUALITY. i already said bang for your buck goes to logitech. but i wasnt saying klipschs were better bang for buck... i was saying they have better sound quality.

I'd have to say that used to be the case. But now, Klipsch no longer sells the 4.1 or 5.1 original systems. If you look hard enough you may be able to find 'em, but Klipsch has switched over to their GMX product line. You cannot buy the 4.1 or 5.1 regulars on their sites. Plain and simple, Klipsch has gone backwards with their GMX line, which has given Logitech the edge.

In general, Logitechs have the better sound quality now because Klipsch fvcked up royally by going with the GMX line.

Overall, Klipsch has the BEST sound quality.

so let me give you some background - this is my first post - and the replies in this thread has made me register just to say my opinion on Klipsch

I am probably biased on Klipsch - just because i have a set of the 4.1s but i am in no way biased on quality

klipsch has not started to concentrate their line on the gmxs - lol you must be joking - they pride themselves of the 5.1 ultras or 2.1s - gmx is a console speaker lol - no audio ethusist would get the gmx line -

the reviews have been that the logitech speakers are better bang for buck - but close behind in quality - i would have to say that klipsch is the best in quality after listening to both sets (ultras and z680s)

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: calam63

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
so in general klipschs are better than the logitechs in SOUND QUALITY. i already said bang for your buck goes to logitech. but i wasnt saying klipschs were better bang for buck... i was saying they have better sound quality.

I'd have to say that used to be the case. But now, Klipsch no longer sells the 4.1 or 5.1 original systems. If you look hard enough you may be able to find 'em, but Klipsch has switched over to their GMX product line. You cannot buy the 4.1 or 5.1 regulars on their sites. Plain and simple, Klipsch has gone backwards with their GMX line, which has given Logitech the edge.

In general, Logitechs have the better sound quality now because Klipsch fvcked up royally by going with the GMX line.

Overall, Klipsch has the BEST sound quality.

so let me give you some background - this is my first post - and the replies in this thread has made me register just to say my opinion on Klipsch

I am probably biased on Klipsch - just because i have a set of the 4.1s but i am in no way biased on quality

klipsch has not started to concentrate their line on the gmxs - lol you must be joking - they pride themselves of the 5.1 ultras or 2.1s - gmx is a console speaker lol - no audio ethusist would get the gmx line -

the reviews have been that the logitech speakers are better bang for buck - but close behind in quality - i would have to say that klipsch is the best in quality after listening to both sets (ultras and z680s)

No "audio enthusiast" would settle for any of the speakers that we listed as a viable setup for their PC. They would hook up their computer to their receiver and play it through their HTS.

They can pride themselves all they want on the Ultra 5.1s and the 2.1s, but they're $120 and $360. That leaves a $240 price gap which the GMX line is there to fill. You dispute the fact that the GMX has taken the place of the original 4.1 and 5.1 price range? Cause I see plenty of places selling the GMX line, but barely any place selling the original 4.1 and 5.1s.

I have not disputed the fact that the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras are the best out there, but in the $200-$260 price segment, the Z680s win hands down. Whether it's in quality, aesthetics, or features. The only set of speakers currently being made by Klipsch the Z680s are not better then is the Ultra 5.1s

 

[calam63]

i was still able to get a set of 4.1s (refurbs) in february - i must say that most consumers are not intelligent but base things on looks like the gmx line - yes the gmx line is in the stores but that is because the gmx is probably just more profitable than the regular promedia line

yes the z680s are great for its price gap - many would say they are even better than the ultras - which would lead to my everyone has their own preferences

but if you wanted to you could get the old 4.1s and 5.1s

 

[compfreak999]

dont forget megaworks and gigaworks

 

[Tsunami982]

its not like the original 5.1's or 4.1s were discontinued years ago... i would say probably within the last year... and i see vendors selling them.

and yes i know an ht system is much better... thats why i have a nice one set up in my living room, but that wasnt the argument. the argument was that klipsch has better sound quality than the logitechs hands down. just from the standpoint of sound quality, you must be deaf to not hear the difference.

 

[BoKingWen]

If I don't already own a set of the Z560 I will jump on these I love them. Warrenty is great mine went bad and I just have to send the woofer back to Logitech and Logitech send me back a new set of speakers so I now had 8 speakers.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: docinthebox

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: docinthebox
I agree this is a really good price on the Z-680. Great speakers too, by the way. I have them and have nothing but good things to say about them.

amazon link

Link without referral.

The original link I posted was not a referral link. If you go to http://www.amazon.com, search for "z-680", and click on the resulting link, you'll get the same link I did.

You may want to reread the post containing the corrected link. The original link offered (in the 7th post) contains a referral, whether intended or not. The corrected link contains no such referral. Actually, if I go to amazon, and search for "z-680", I get an entirely different link than the one original provided, which is precisely the point of posting a link with the referral information removed.

Do hope this clears up the misunderstanding on your part. It's an honest mistake am certain, and hopefully this will prevent you from making same said mistake in future postings.

 

[docinthebox]

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: docinthebox

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: docinthebox
I agree this is a really good price on the Z-680. Great speakers too, by the way. I have them and have nothing but good things to say about them.

amazon link

Link without referral.

The original link I posted was not a referral link. If you go to http://www.amazon.com, search for "z-680", and click on the resulting link, you'll get the same link I did.

You may want to reread the post containing the corrected link. The original link offered (in the 7th post) contains a referral, whether intended or not. The corrected link contains no such referral. Actually, if I go to amazon, and search for "z-680", I get an entirely different link than the one original provided, which is precisely the point of posting a link with the referral information removed.

Do hope this clears up the misunderstanding on your part. It's an honest mistake am certain, and hopefully this will prevent you from making same said mistake in future postings.

The original link was:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007AKDP/qid=1083043893/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-1449354-5615267?v=glance&s=videogames&n=507846

Unless you work at Amazon maintaining their web app, I don't see how you can say for sure that this URL contains a referral. You see the part that says "ref=..." and you say, hey that's a referral. But that's not necessarily the case. How a link is structured is entirely up to the people coding the web app. Again, I believe that this is not a referral link. "ref=" could simply means reference, not necessarily referral. You'd have to provide more info in order to support your argument that this is for certain a referral link.

 

[Capster]

re: arguments over speakers and quality...gimme a break. Most might acknowledge that the Klipsch sounds better but in terms of quality you have to remember that this sort of thing is very subjective as there are lots of folks in the world with some screwed up hearing and then there are those who prefer a specific type of sound.

re: arguments over referral link...c'mon people, let it rest. Not saying it happened but there are lots of times folks post stuff with referral links and don't mean to. There are also folks who do and still argue they don't. If someone posts a link without the questionable referral link and it still works, feel free to use it and accept it. Arguing over this is pointless and silly.

 

[ianbergman]

I'm with the crowd that says these things beat out the Klipsch... which means this is definitely a hot deal. so nice!

 

[Esquire]

Originally posted by: mato7742
what's this i hear about the logitech's not being able to perform digitally with creative sound cards? some guy on the amazon review said this:

"Audigy 2 cards do have digital output, but it is intended ONLY to work with Creative Labs Speakers. So if you try the digital out connection to the Z680's, you will be disappointed. "

is this true?

 

[docinthebox]

Originally posted by: Esquire

Originally posted by: mato7742
what's this i hear about the logitech's not being able to perform digitally with creative sound cards? some guy on the amazon review said this:

"Audigy 2 cards do have digital output, but it is intended ONLY to work with Creative Labs Speakers. So if you try the digital out connection to the Z680's, you will be disappointed. "

is this true?

no, it's not. I'm running an audigy2 platinum with the z-680 speakers using a digital optical cable and they work great together. listening to the music as I type now.

 

[docinthebox]

Originally posted by: Capster
re: arguments over referral link...c'mon people, let it rest. Not saying it happened but there are lots of times folks post stuff with referral links and don't mean to. There are also folks who do and still argue they don't. If someone posts a link without the questionable referral link and it still works, feel free to use it and accept it. Arguing over this is pointless and silly.

LOL, yeah you're right now that I think about it. Sorry about that.

 

[afty]

FWIW I have a set of these speakers hooked up to my TV, DVD player, and Xbox, and I am quite happy with them. They play loud enough to fill a medium size room (14'x14'), and the sound quality is very good for the price. My negative against the sound quality is that the bass tends to be boomy and overpowering for music, but the flip side of that is that movie and games sound great.

When comparing to the Klipsch sets, don't forget that these speakers have a built-in Dolby Digital/DTS decoder, which along with the price difference made the sale for me.

 

[nikkai]

Don't most programs like InterDVD have DTS/Dolby Digital decoding in their software?

I'm a lil clueless in that dept.

ie: if I don't have the 680's does that mean no DTS?

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: docinthebox
Unless you work at Amazon maintaining their web app, I don't see how you can say for sure that this URL contains a referral. You see the part that says "ref=..." and you say, hey that's a referral. But that's not necessarily the case. How a link is structured is entirely up to the people coding the web app. Again, I believe that this is not a referral link. "ref=" could simply means reference, not necessarily referral. You'd have to provide more info in order to support your argument that this is for certain a referral link

Rather than question impropriety or motives, it is far easier to remove the extraneous (and might I add, unnecessary) portions of the original link and provide a correct one. The entire idea - in this particular case, at least - is no one save the original poster knows for certain if they are generating a referral based or not based on the link. Again, rather than question any particular user's intent, it is simply easier to provide the correction. I suppose one could have called the correction "Link without unnecessary, wasteful and possibly (but by no means definite) underhanded attempt at generating income based on a referral", but thought the original, corrected version's moniker was far more elegant.

You may want to read here, as the rules are such :

"When are negative comments allowed?
If you know a "deal" is a scam.

If the post contains improper links, such as click-through referrals, etc. If you know a better link for the same deal, post it in the thread.

If there is any other reason to warn others about an offer or link. For example, many sites offering free magazine subscriptions have been known to continue billing credit cards long after the subscription was cancelled. Also, if you know a vendor has a bad reseller rating, you are doing your fellow members a favor by warning them."

We do not have to like the rules, but they do exist. If you are wondering regarding this particular rule, am certain you can message/email a moderator who will undoubtedly offer much of the same information contained within the few posts of this thread.

Again, hope this clarifies. And with that, the deceased equine is now thoroughly flogged.