Sheik Yerbouti
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Hatred is a human problem. We will encounter plenty of it among our peers.what the actual fuck?
He's a murderer and I don't feel much sympathy for him.
However, people in prison are effectively wards of the State, and they should be able to serve their time without being subjected to inter-inmate or prison guard violence. The fact that we allow these conditions to continue existing is a gross reflection on who we are as a society.
We allow them? We don't control the prison system. We don't control the racist ass police. I don't know how you think we have any power in an oligarchy, at least this last forty years as capitalism has divided us all. Do you not see how little peoples' preferences impact what becomes law? It doesn't reflect on the working class which is us as society, it reflects on the ownership/ruling class who keeps poverty high in this nation because it pays to scare the people.He's a murderer and I don't feel much sympathy for him.
However, people in prison are effectively wards of the State, and they should be able to serve their time without being subjected to inter-inmate or prison guard violence. The fact that we allow these conditions to continue existing is a gross reflection on who we are as a society.
The power dynamic is flipped where the black people the police prey on are stronger in numbers in prison, I don't see what's so hard to understand.what the actual fuck?
Go overthrow the federal government and then prosecute the state and local leaders who make our prisons such hellholes. Until then we know the prisons are going to be violent and nothing will change so I'll take it as a win when an oppressor like Chauvin gets a turn seeing what it's like being treated as a worthless piece of shit like he did to Floyd. If he dies he dies, fuck him.Hatred is a human problem. We will encounter plenty of it among our peers.
To rise above it, I hold onto the ideals that prisoners (and those in custody) should be treated humanely and securely. They are our responsibility, and we must treat them as we would want ourselves treated. Chauvin clearly violated that for the victim in his custody, but to not become him, I hold myself and our people to a higher standard. It is criminal what he did, and so it must also be criminal to violate a prisoner.
1) we're not an oligarchy, 2) we do have control over these things, but it's about having political will to overcome the blatant fear mongering that always comes along with reform. Unfortunately, the system has many veto points, many competing and prioritizing interests, and often times, people prioritize other issues. Inmates are often a somewhat unsympathetic group, and a winning political campaign is just not going to center their needs.We allow them? We don't control the prison system. We don't control the racist ass police. I don't know how you think we have any power in an oligarchy, at least this last forty years as capitalism has divided us all. Do you not see how little peoples' preferences impact what becomes law? It doesn't reflect on the working class which is us as society, it reflects on the ownership/ruling class who keeps poverty high in this nation because it pays to scare the people.
What do you think this nation is if not an oligarchy?1) we're not an oligarchy, 2) we do have control over these things, but it's about having political will to overcome the blatant fear mongering that always comes along with reform. Unfortunately, the system has many veto points, many competing and prioritizing interests, and often times, people prioritize other issues. Inmates are often a somewhat unsympathetic group, and a winning political campaign is just not going to center their needs.
But people that gloat and take pleasure at when bad things happen to bad people in prison, beyond what their sentence calls for, make it harder to build that political will to change things for the better.
When the preferences of economic elites and the stands of organized interest groups are controlled for, the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens | Perspectives on Politics | Cambridge Core
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens - Volume 12 Issue 3www.cambridge.org
In principle I agree with you but to all of a sudden have concern for the treatment of prisoners because Chauvin is there is wasted concern. Perhaps this post would have been more effective when Khalif Browder was imprisoned and not even given a trial.Hatred is a human problem. We will encounter plenty of it among our peers.
To rise above it, I hold onto the ideals that prisoners (and those in custody) should be treated humanely and securely. They are our responsibility, and we must treat them as we would want ourselves treated. Chauvin clearly violated that for the victim in his custody, but to not become him, I hold myself and our people to a higher standard. It is criminal what he did, and so it must also be criminal to violate a prisoner.