LOL Chauvin stabbed today

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eelw

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Surprised they don’t kneel on his neck for 9 minutes every day for the rest of his life in prison.
 

GodisanAtheist

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That would require our people, at large, to not be murderers and torturers.
Look at this topic. We absolutely are. Human nature drives us and their answers could not be any other way.

-But that's why we have systems and institutions, the same ones that can make a good man do evil things can conversely make evil people do good things.

We don't have to reform human nature, just the systems that govern human nature.

Get woke.
 
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K1052

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The failures of the US penal system are not to be celebrated even when some real major scumbag gets to experience them. People like Chauvin have a debt to the state to pay in terms of serving out his sentence that society should not be cheated out of. Goes for the failure to prevent inmate suicides as well and the level of violence inside the system.
 

SteveGrabowski

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If you think he should be stabbed or killed then lobby to change the laws to make his sentence a stabbing or whatever. As Vic mentioned what you’re cheering for is exactly the sort of extrajudicial execution Chauvin participated in.
You sound like a Trumptard crying about people not being tolerant towards nazis.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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The failures of the US penal system are not to be celebrated even when some real major scumbag gets to experience them. People like Chauvin have a debt to the state to pay in terms of serving out his sentence that society should not be cheated out of. Goes for the failure to prevent inmate suicides as well and the level of violence inside the system.
Meh if I was doing 20 years in our prison system I'd probably off myself.
 

Jaskalas

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You sound like a Trumptard crying about people not being tolerant towards nazis.
Your vision is not that of a Democratic United States.
To that end goal, both you and Trump are in alignment. Lawlessness and anarchy. To disregard Justice and celebrate the use of Force against ones enemies. Even subdued ones.

It is not @fskimospy who is a danger to society here.
 

SteveGrabowski

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The failures of the US penal system are not to be celebrated even when some real major scumbag gets to experience them. People like Chauvin have a debt to the state to pay in terms of serving out his sentence that society should not be cheated out of. Goes for the failure to prevent inmate suicides as well and the level of violence inside the system.
The US penal system works exactly as it was designed to. It's just nice seeing a deserving person have to deal with it.
 

m8d

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The failures of the US penal system are not to be celebrated even when some real major scumbag gets to experience them. People like Chauvin have a debt to the state to pay in terms of serving out his sentence that society should not be cheated out of. Goes for the failure to prevent inmate suicides as well and the level of violence inside the system.
It's not a failure. It works the way it was designed to.
 
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nickqt

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Tacit acceptance of state-funded torture chambers is just one symptom of a broken society. It doesn't matter if someone "deserves" to be tortured in prison, because a system that allows torture is going to allow the torture of people who do not "deserve" to be tortured.

Basic right vs wrong here. Pick which side you want to support accordingly.
 
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Fenixgoon

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He’s saying the US penal system is bad and we shouldn’t selectively decide if it’s bad or not depending on who it is brutalizing today.
i think you and K1052 are in agreement with @m8d - the system is designed to be bad, and thus working as intended. feature, not a bug.
 

woolfe9998

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I'm pretty sure that the 8th Amendment says no cruel or unusual punishment. Accordingly, if the state is allowing these kinds of things, either through intent or negligence, then that is what is being violated here. Our system should not allow this precisely because we're supposed to be better than the (mostly) scumbags we're putting in jail.

If you find yourself having fantasies about horrible things being done to criminals you particularly despise, then you need professional help because you're no different than people who used to cheer at public executions 1000 years ago, back when the culture wasn't so progressive. Thinking like that today either makes you a nutball or a far right winger, which are essentially the same thing.
 

m8d

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The alleged stabber has been placed on paid administrative leave while the other inmates conduct an internal investigation.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Tacit acceptance of state-funded torture chambers is just one symptom of a broken society. It doesn't matter if someone "deserves" to be tortured in prison, because a system that allows torture is going to allow the torture of people who do not "deserve" to be tortured.

Basic right vs wrong here. Pick which side you want to support accordingly.
Meh more like it's funny to see the oppressor become the oppressed, to see the white killer cop become the n**ger after the police and prisons have been used to terrorize black people for centuries in America.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I'm pretty sure that the 8th Amendment says no cruel or unusual punishment. Accordingly, if the state is allowing these kinds of things, either through intent or negligence, then that is what is being violated here. Our system should not allow this precisely because we're supposed to be better than the (mostly) scumbags we're putting in jail.

If you find yourself having fantasies about horrible things being done to criminals you particularly despise, then you need professional help because you're no different than people who used to cheer at public executions 1000 years ago, back when the culture wasn't so progressive. Thinking like that today either makes you a nutball or a far right winger, which are essentially the same thing.
In the days of public executions you'd get killed often for non-violent offenses so that's a strawman. A person who tortures and murders a man of a lower caste crying for his mother over a lousy $20 bill has it coming.
 

akugami

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As much as I think Chauvin is a dirtbag and deserves to be in jail, I am not happy about the state of jails in the US. It's a cesspool. We should be trying to rehabilitate offenders, rather than the system we have now, which is basically to lock them up and throw away the key. Long term, it is cheaper if we can rehabilitate inmates, due to the cost of locking them up. And yes, I do understand some will never be rehabilitated, but some does not mean all.
 

Viper1j

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In the days of public executions you'd get killed often for non-violent offenses so that's a strawman. A person who tortures and murders a man of a lower caste crying for his mother over a lousy $20 bill has it coming.
Could it have been a domestic dispute? Kind of sounds like he might have served his husband cold meatloaf. 🤔
 

HomerJS

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If Chauvin gets himself an Aryan boyfriend and takes it up the ass he’ll be safe.
 
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