LOL @ Chicago, striking teachers

[ichy]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...s-union-contract-talks-strike,0,2062807.story

Public school teachers on strike. I kind of hope that Rahm Emmanuel pulls a Ronald Reagan and fires them all (assuming he's even allowed to do that?)

 

[EagleKeeper]

Emmanuel is a democrat - they support the unions

 

[dmcowen674]

Emmanuel is a democrat - they support the unions

Nope, Rahm said he would fire them all, he is pissed.

 

[Texashiker]

Nope, Rahm said he would fire them all, he is pissed.

Talk is cheap.

Lets see what Rahm does to resolve the issue.

 

[Rastus]

We all know he's going to get federal money and give them what they want.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Always so nice to see the unions biting the hands that feed them.

 

[diesbudt]

Unions are important for the workforce in this nation.

However they seem to have too much power in too many circumstances.

 

[nehalem256]

Unions are important for the workforce in this nation.

However they seem to have too much power in too many circumstances.

Unions are an important counter balance to corporate power and excess profits.

The problem with public unions is there are no corporate profits to divvy up. So who exactly are they acting as a balance to?

 

[Texashiker]

Unions are important for the workforce in this nation.

Non-public sector unions that are fighting for safe working conditions and better benefits are important.

Public sector unions are a waste of taxpayers money, as they already get good pay, good working conditions and good benefits.

The people that need the unions are the coal miners, and not the teachers.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

C'mon. We know it's about the keez.

 

[CLite]

Unions are an important counter balance to corporate power and excess profits.

The problem with public unions is there are no corporate profits to divvy up. So who exactly are they acting as a balance to?

I think being protected from the whims of newly elected officials is probably what originally spawned public unions.

Now it has grown to become being protected from incompetence, criminal activity, etc. (i.e. impossible to be fired).

 

[boochi]

The average teacher in Chicago makes around $76,000 + benefits and they want a 30% pay increase over two years. Fuck them.

 

[QuantumPion]

Unions are an important counter balance to corporate power and excess profits.

That makes about as much sense as saying McDonalds is an important counter-balance to healthy eating and fitness.

 

[diesbudt]

Unions are an important counter balance to corporate power and excess profits.

The problem with public unions is there are no corporate profits to divvy up. So who exactly are they acting as a balance to?

Right, they are still important if conditions are to change. Not needed, but good to keep the union "alive/active" so if something was to happen that would really hurt workers either condition or fairness wise, they can work it out.

However having the power to deny government of cutting their jobs or forcing higher wages than other places is simply too much power.

 

[Paul98]

Sounds like this should be over quickly, plus from the outside it sounds reasonable.

 

[K1052]

The average teacher in Chicago makes around $76,000 + benefits and they want a 30% pay increase over two years. Fuck them.

It's not really the money in this case, the union will trade most of that negotiating point away to avoid the evaluations and lock in the jobs pool for teachers who's schools have been closed (that they be rehired at any new schools instead of outside hires).

 

[nehalem256]

That makes about as much sense as saying McDonalds is an important counter-balance to healthy eating and fitness.

So you think it would be a good thing if American workers worked for $1/hr and had to work 12 hour days?

 

[ichy]

It's not really the money in this case, the union will trade most of that negotiating point away to avoid the evaluations and lock in the jobs pool for teachers who's schools have been closed (that they be rehired at any new schools instead of outside hires).

See, that's what bugs me about unions. I don't mind people negotiating for higher pay, but the way they protect mediocrity is sickening.

 

[Icepick]

This goes to show that teachers are typically well-educated people and are able to detect when they're being screwed. We should be seeing more collective actions similar to this over the next few years. Hopefully more working class people will follow their lead and demand better compensation for their effort.

There is plenty of money in our economy. The problem is that there is a very unequal distribution of it at this time in history.

 

[zsdersw]

CTU... putting themselves before students. Color me totally unsurprised.

Fuck CTU... their demands are almost 100% unreasonable.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Looks like the major issue here is that teachers don't want their evaluations based on student performance.

 

[Matt1970]

The average teacher in Chicago makes around $76,000 + benefits and they want a 30% pay increase over two years. Fuck them.

If that's true then they probably should be fired.

 

[a777pilot]

Unions are important for the workforce in this nation.

However they seem to have too much power in too many circumstances.

I agree but that was in the 30's to the 50's AND those were private section unions.

Public sector unions have no business existing.

 

[Matt1970]

This goes to show that teachers are typically well-educated people and are able to detect when they're being screwed. We should be seeing more collective actions similar to this over the next few years. Hopefully more working class people will follow their lead and demand better compensation for their effort.

There is plenty of money in our economy. The problem is that there is a very unequal distribution of it at this time in history.

Money distribution is only for those on the Government Nipple. The rest of the money is earned.

 

[DCal430]

Teachers unions are very powerful, here they passed laws that made it nearly impossible to fire a teacher, and even then the cost is hundreds of thousands of dollars for each fired teacher.