LOL: Flag Burning Retard Burns Self + 2 Acres

sweetrobin

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what part of burning and American Flag is reserved by the freedom of Speech ??? Its not a speech its and action .. and being that it was done by a foreign student .. I say we either put his butt in jail or send him back to Russia. Not to mention the dumbie burned 2 acres with his little prank.
 

FrysInsider

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sweetrobin,

It's called Freedom of Expression.

Doesn;t change the fact that this guy was a total moron hahaha.
 

MikeO

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<< Too bad he survived with minor burns...:disgust: >>



Let's hope he's dumb enough to do it again.

And I'm quite sure he is.
 

veryape

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Yea Fryinsider, we all know about freedom of expression but we do not all feel that it should be all encompassing, especially when it comes to the American flag, which is a symbol of what America stands for. So if you don't believe in the flag and want to burn it you are basically burning the very thing that you are claiming is going to save you from prosecution. There are exceptions to every rule and it is my opinion that anyone caught burning a flag should be burned at the stake. J/K
, but I do think jail time should be mandatory.
 

Sepen

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What an idiot. So, the way I read it, he is burning a flag, by himself, with no other person watching, in a field? What the hell was the point? That would be like satisfying ones self in front of a gorgeuos female, and she is blind. Ship the moron outta here.

Before I get flamed.

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Amused

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Banning the burning of an American flag will only serve to deny the very freedoms it symbolizes. The freedom to protest, the freedom of expression, and the freedom of private property.

Private property? Yep.

You OWN your flag. Not the government, not your neighbor, YOU. YOU can do what ever you want with YOUR flag, (so long as you don't break local fire codes, that is). Banning flag burning sends us further down the dangerous slippery slope of government intrusion into OUR private property.

Look, I think flag burners are idiots, and I'm deeply offended by their actions. However, I would NEVER, EVER seek to ban flag burning any more than I would seek to ban bible burning. You CANNOT legislate patriotism, just as the Catholic Church found you cannot legislate piousness... and no where in the Constitution are you guaranteed the right to be free from offense.

And finally, it is our freedom that is sacred, NOT it's symbols. Please, don't let symbolism become more sacred than the ideals they represent.

Taking away a freedom to protect a mere symbol of freedom is so gawd damn oxymoronic, it isn't even funny.
 

Lucky

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the flag burning charge wont hold, thats obvious.


What might is the felony charge of starting a fire capable of spreading..though I've never heard of that before.
 

damien6

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What's with Russians in the states lately? Not that long ago there was that other guy who killed half of his family members on rampage and now this. Are they deporting and sending over only those who have some form of mental disorders or those that are few quarters short of a dollar over to US.
 

misle

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Banning the burning of an American flag will only serve to deny the very freedoms it symbolizes. The freedom to protest, the freedom of expression, and the freedom of private property.

Well said.
 

Red Dawn

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What an Idiot!




<< So if you don't believe in the flag and want to burn it you are basically burning the very thing that you are claiming is going to save you from prosecution. >>

I disagree with you there . In my opinion you are only burning a symbol. I agree that it is unpatriotic and even foolish but in America you have the right to be unpatriotic and foolish.. and also very unpopular when it comes to freedom of expression.
 

Holycrap

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The Supreme Court most recently answered the question in 1989. It's decision, in Texas v. Johnson, the court affirmed a lower court decision dismissing the claim against the flag burner.

The court said:

The way to preserve the flag's special role is not to punish those who feel differently about these matters. It is to persuade them that they are wrong. "To courageous, self-reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present, unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence." Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357, 377 (1927) (Brandeis, J., concurring). And, precisely because it is our flag that is involved, one's response to the flag [491 U.S. 397, 420] burner may exploit the uniquely persuasive power of the flag itself. We can imagine no more appropriate response to burning a flag than waving one's own, no better way to counter a flag burner's message than by saluting the flag that burns, no surer means of preserving the dignity even of the flag that burned than by - as one witness here did - according its remains a respectful burial. We do not consecrate the flag by punishing its desecration, for in doing so we dilute the freedom that this cherished emblem represents.

 

Jejunum

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this guys a moron yes...but if its his flag and his land then it should be his right to burn a flag

im tired of all this pseudo-patriotic crap

all of a sudden if u think a differnt way; or disagree with the government; ur a communist nazi insurper (spelling?)

its for sure happening on my college campus...
 
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