LOL@ idiot protestor

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ValValline
The bottom line is these kids (for whatever reason) can't pass a basic high school level competency/literacy test. Whether or not they attend a graduation ceremony is the least of their problems.

Yep. Meaning you don't graduate. You don't gradute, you don't participate in the ceremony. Good for the school for stiking to the rules. If you don't meet the requirements for graduation, then no graduate.

Sounds right to me. The walk is for people who graduated to walk up and get their diplomas.
It's not a bloody gown pageant.

I suggest a compromise. They are allowed to walk, but they have to wear dunce caps.

And they have to carry that "Let are kids walk" sign.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ValValline
The bottom line is these kids (for whatever reason) can't pass a basic high school level competency/literacy test. Whether or not they attend a graduation ceremony is the least of their problems.

Yep. Meaning you don't graduate. You don't gradute, you don't participate in the ceremony. Good for the school for stiking to the rules. If you don't meet the requirements for graduation, then no graduate.

Sounds right to me. The walk is for people who graduated to walk up and get their diplomas.
It's not a bloody gown pageant.

I suggest a compromise. They are allowed to walk, but they have to wear dunce caps.

I like how you think.

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: waggy
ahh so a basic knowledge test.

when i was in school i was amazed at some who got a degree. one guy could not read or write. yet got a degree.

guess this was to help provent that.

hmmmmmm

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
So they're NOT getting their diplomas for failing this TAK test, yet the one girl who failed had a 3.5 GPA......that's rather harsh, no?

Sounds like their standards weren't too high at that school.


I think they should be allowed to walk. My college allowed you to walk if you would be able to complete the requirements for graduation by the end of the summer. I believe that is a pretty typical policy. You don't get a diploma until you finish, but you get to participate in the ceremony. The school should be happy that these kids consider graduation to be an important event!

IIRC, even my university allowed people to walk. Instead of a diploma, they got a piece of paper saying, to the effect of: "Not good enough, sucka."

Hah.

 

[Parasitic]

Shouldn't the signs be facing the other way??

 

[UncleWai]

What a moran

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ValValline
The bottom line is these kids (for whatever reason) can't pass a basic high school level competency/literacy test. Whether or not they attend a graduation ceremony is the least of their problems.

Yep. Meaning you don't graduate. You don't gradute, you don't participate in the ceremony. Good for the school for stiking to the rules. If you don't meet the requirements for graduation, then no graduate.

Sounds right to me. The walk is for people who graduated to walk up and get their diplomas.
It's not a bloody gown pageant.

I suggest a compromise. They are allowed to walk, but they have to wear dunce caps.

And they have to carry that "Let are kids walk" sign.

I think one that says "WE R SMART TWO!" would be more fitting.

 

[Rudee]

In my company all applicants for technical positions must take a small knowledge test prior to the interview. About two-thirds fail simple grade 12 math problems.

 

[Fritzo]

The op is making fun of a spelling mistake and he spelled protester wrong

 

[imported_Lothar]

/Marked for later.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
The op is making fun of a spelling mistake and he spelled protester wrong

is my sarcasm meter broken?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=protestor&x=0&y=0

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Fritzo
The op is making fun of a spelling mistake and he spelled protester wrong

is my sarcasm meter broken?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=protestor&x=0&y=0

Both spellings are acceptable. I think you both simultaneously owned each other & yourselves.

 

[Canun]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Mellman

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
So they're NOT getting their diplomas for failing this TAK test, yet the one girl who failed had a 3.5 GPA......that's rather harsh, no?

GPAs don't mean a damn thing. There are too many variables that go into them.

one could say the same about TAK tests, and SAT's and any test...

Exactly. She finished at the TOP of her class and finished with a 3.5 GPA, cumulative I would expect. I would Imagine the TAK is the least important factor here.

I doubt she was top of the class with a 3.5. With the honors/AP classes going on a 5.0 scale with the rest of the classes on a 4.0 scale. I took the test to graduate back in 95 and aced it for the most part. I just don't see how they can do so bad that they actually failed it.

 

[Yreka]

Sample TAKS exit exam 2006

 

[Zenmervolt]

We had to take a standardized test like that when I was going to HS in Ohio. You could take it early (8th grade) and had to pass it before you graduated (Sr. in HS is 12th grade). I passed all sections when I was in 8th grade and never had to take it again. A graduating senior who cannot pass his or her state's proficiency test does not deserve to graduate. Period.

ZV

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
We had to take a standardized test like that when I was going to HS in Ohio. You could take it early (8th grade) and had to pass it before you graduated (Sr. in HS is 12th grade). I passed all sections when I was in 8th grade and never had to take it again. A graduating senior who cannot pass his or her state's proficiency test does not deserve to graduate. Period.

ZV

No one is asking to be allowed to graduate, they just want to walk across the stage at graduation.

"We know we're not going to get our diplomas, but we just want to walk across the stage,"

I believe it is common to allow students who anticipate completing the requirements for graduation shortly to walk at graduation. One of my friends in college was allowed to walk even though he had several credits remaining.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
We had to take a standardized test like that when I was going to HS in Ohio. You could take it early (8th grade) and had to pass it before you graduated (Sr. in HS is 12th grade). I passed all sections when I was in 8th grade and never had to take it again. A graduating senior who cannot pass his or her state's proficiency test does not deserve to graduate. Period.

ZV

No one is asking to be allowed to graduate, they just want to walk across the stage at graduation.

"We know we're not going to get our diplomas, but we just want to walk across the stage,"

I believe it is common to allow students who anticipate completing the requirements for graduation shortly to walk at graduation. One of my friends in college was allowed to walk even though he had several credits remaining.

Why the hell should they be honored at the graduation ceremony if they aren't graduating?

There's only one condition under which I would allow them to walk; They agree that before their names are read, a disclaimer will be read that states the following, "The next person is too stupid to successfully complete the graduation requirements, but because their self-esteem is so unbelievably fragile that they would cry if we didn't let them walk across the stage, we will be presenting them instead with a certificate confirming their idiocy."

Walking across the stage is an honor that is earned by successfully completing the requirements for graduating. It is not a right and people who have not graduated have no business whatsoever walking across the stage.

ZV

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
We had to take a standardized test like that when I was going to HS in Ohio. You could take it early (8th grade) and had to pass it before you graduated (Sr. in HS is 12th grade). I passed all sections when I was in 8th grade and never had to take it again. A graduating senior who cannot pass his or her state's proficiency test does not deserve to graduate. Period.

ZV

No one is asking to be allowed to graduate, they just want to walk across the stage at graduation.

"We know we're not going to get our diplomas, but we just want to walk across the stage,"

I believe it is common to allow students who anticipate completing the requirements for graduation shortly to walk at graduation. One of my friends in college was allowed to walk even though he had several credits remaining.

Why the hell should they be honored at the graduation ceremony if they aren't graduating?

There's only one condition under which I would allow them to walk; They agree that before their names are read, a disclaimer will be read that states the following, "The next person is too stupid to successfully complete the graduation requirements, but because their self-esteem is so unbelievably fragile that they would cry if we didn't let them walk across the stage, we will be presenting them instead with a certificate confirming their idiocy."

Walking across the stage is an honor that is earned by successfully completing the requirements for graduating. It is not a right and people who have not graduated have no business whatsoever walking across the stage.

ZV

Pull the stick out of your ass. What's the harm of letting them walk when they'll complete the requirements a month later? A separate graduation 2 months later is not the same. Fortunately most academics are not as mean-spirited as you and they recognize that, which is why students are often allowed to walk at graduation if they will complete the graduation requirements by the end of the summer. Unfortunately for these kids, Texas high schools are not among them. [Edit: SOME Texas high schools. According to the article others DO allow students to walk even if they haven't completed the requirements yet]

 

[KC5AV]

There are several school districts here in Texas that are dealing with much the same thing. I believe it's left to the discretion of the district whether to allow the students to walk.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: mugs
Pull the stick out of your ass. What's the harm of letting them walk when they'll complete the requirements a month later? A separate graduation 2 months later is not the same. Fortunately most academics are not as mean-spirited as you and they recognize that, which is why students are often allowed to walk at graduation if they will complete the graduation requirements by the end of the summer. Unfortunately for these kids, Texas high schools are not among them.

Why do you assume that it's guaranteed that they'll pass the exams again? It's not. They might pass them next time around. Should I get to present at this year's Nobel Prize ceremony because I might get the award sometime in the future? It's the same logic as letting the kids walk at "graduation".

You still haven't answered my question: Why should they be rewarded for failing? Why do students who haven't met the requirements deserve to take part in a celebration that is explicitly set up as a reward for successfully graduating?

It's not about being mean-spirited, it's about teaching these kids how the word works. Letting them walk is teaching them that it's OK to fail, that there's no consequence for not meeting your obligations. Letting them walk is an approval of mediocrity and is a symptom of a much larger societal problem; the profoundly dangerous idea that it's more important for a person to feel good than it is for that person to succede. Failure needs to have consequences, without them there is no incentive to succede. Life has losers. You don't get promoted at work just for showing up and putting in your time. You don't get a job just because you showed up. And you don't get rewarded for graduating just because you've put in the right amount of years.

ZV