LOL! Napster fans, take a look!

Soccerman

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Cnet has an article about if you don't live in the States, the Government will have a harder time to shut you down!!

One Canadian already has a plan, he'll be putting Open Nap servers offshore, so it will take quite a while to shut them down!
 

TheOverlord

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heh i wish i had beat havenco to that deal tho, theey stand to make some serious money if they handle things right
 

borealiss

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hahaha. that's so awesome. that's like giving the RIAA the driving finger, and then some.
 

Budman

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<< Gotto love Canadains >>



We would love you even more if you spelled it Canadians.
 

Soccerman

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what makes this interesting to me, is that the place where much of this started (MP3 trading in the States), is going to become quite a bit harder to accomplish, unless you resort to this, in which case, you have to go overseas to get the data (could be slower).

still, it's an interesting idea.
 

SuperFreaky

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offshores is definately where napster is heading..

if they can offer the record companies a combined 1 billion dollars (I think it was that much), they sure as hell can afford to buy a data island!
 

Soccerman

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this also reminds me of the hacking community, always one step ahead of the people they are against..

even though I don't condone hacking, in fact, most hackers I know do it for the typical, &quot;I hate you, so I'm going to destroy your computer&quot; reason.. I find it extremely childish and.. what are the words??

however, when it comes to issues such as this (against the RIAA), I'd have to side with the people against the RIAA.
 

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This is pretty funny. Sealand is so small that HavenCo is the only business. This place is just a rock in the North Sea.

&quot;Access to the HavenCo secure colocation facilities, which comprises nearly all of the Principality of Sealand, is restricted to authorized staff, investors and members of the Royal Family&quot;



 

pm

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The story of Sealand is hysterical. And the &quot;royal family&quot;... Sealand cracks me up. This is an interesting idea and I wonder how well it will work in practice.

I wrote to my state senator and my representatives last week regarding Napster. It was a nice letter saying that I encourage the legislature to work towards a compromise solution on Napster and that I think the DMCA gives too much power to the corporations. They all replied back today (form letter saying that they read everything we, their constituents, send them). Well, it couldn't hurt and it's better than having a flamewar on the internet over the issue.
 

extro

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Ah, it's not a rock, it's a platform. Much smaller than the average oil platform.

USA Today did a story on it and they have a pic.

Too funny. I'll bet the RIAA slams a torpedo into it.
 

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Remember, individual ISP, can or will have to regulate it if the Us goverment gives the order. So even moving it to the platform will not exactly help US users.
 

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This was ripped straight from Ars ...thought it might be of interest:

Ok, I had decided not to do another Napster-related post around here for a while, because it seemed like this place was turning into the Napster Newswire. But I got a big grin out of this, so I couldn't pass it up. The Aimster p2p file-sharing system is trying to use the DMCA to its advantage by encrypting communications on its network, meaning that anyone who'd want to monitor users for copyright infringement would have to circumvent its encryption mechanism--a federal crime under the DMCA. Here's a bit about Aimster from their page:

Aimster's integration with AOL Instant Messaging allows users to search and share files exclusively with their AOL Instant Messaging &quot;buddies, and thereby enjoy greater privacy and security protections. Unlike Napster, Aimster gives users significantly more control over who can access their shared files and computers, and also lets users share not only music but any personal content.

Now,from the CNET article on their evil plans:

Aimster, whose system combines the properties of a file-swapping system with instant messaging, says that &quot;data collectors and other potential spies, eavesdroppers or wiretappers&quot; on its system risk up to $500,000 in fines and five years in jail if they attempt to crack the site's security to snoop on the service. That could mean that record companies wanting to spy on individuals could break the law that's become their favorite weapon to crack down on fledgling technology companies.

LOL! Maybe the DMCA is good for something after all. Anyway, you gotta love Aimster's ingenuity in fighting fire with fire.




Peace





Lounatik
 

Jonny

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Another fine reason to live in Canada.

At first I did not care that napster was going to be shut down, but then I started thinking about it. About buying music cd's for 25 bucks! I started getting weak in the knees.

Then I read this.

 

MikeyP

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The RIAA doesn't realize they cannot win this one. Instead of dictating what Napster can do, they should be trying to salvage a little money from them. They've never had to go against the hackers, whom always seem to be one step ahead of everyone (for good or bad). As long as there are new methods to halt communication, people will get around them; I don't know why the RIAA can't see this.
 

Macro2

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The RIAA can't see it because there Lawyers are clueless about hackers...or tech for that matter.
Look for the next barrage of Napsters to hit the RIAA hard...
Like someone said, the RIAA should have salvaged what they could and gone in on the deal.
Looks like the RIAAs license to print money is about to end for good, they just don't know it.

Mac
 

Smbu

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Prince Roy of Sealand. He's going to keep napster alive? Did you see the picture of Sealand? That's a pretty small place.
 

Leo V

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Nice post there Soccerman!

I disagree with you on one thing, though: your definition of hackers. You sort of grouped all people doing illegal things as &quot;hackers&quot;, which is a very common misnomer adopted by the press. Really those people should be called &quot;crackers&quot;.

To &quot;hack&quot; really means to do inventive things with something, for which it wasn't originally intended. It does not mean harming somebody else. I could be considered a &quot;hacker&quot; to some extent, because I rewired my GeForce2mx for better image quality and modified my computer to be quiet. Even benign things like over/underclocking or customizing one's Linux installation could be seen as &quot;hacking&quot; to some extent. It's a freedom that everybody ought to have.

&quot;Cracking&quot;, on the other hand, is the kind of activity that gave &quot;hacking&quot; a bad name
 
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