LOL So many Russian Bots on overdrive as we approach midterms

[ivwshane]

Clinton lost because she was the nominee and the second most disliked candidate in history. The only tweak Democrats need in election strategy for 2020 is picking someone other than her, not selecting a novelty candidate like Oprah, and not repeating the formless "vote for me because I'm not him" message of Kerry from 2004. Someone like Corey Booker, Tim Kaine, or even Joe Biden should beat Trump pretty soundly.

You don't even hear the stupidity of your post, do you? She was the second most disliked candidate, right behind the most disliked candidate, who won.

 

[glenn1]

You don't even hear the stupidity of your post, do you? She was the second most disliked candidate, right behind the most disliked candidate, who won.

It wasn't enough of a difference between worst and second worst to matter much, both were viewed unfavorably by historic margins.

 

[Jhhnn]

It wasn't enough of a difference between worst and second worst to matter much, both were viewed unfavorably by historic margins.

So why did you bring it up? Why is it that conservatives' arguments devolve into bashing Hillary, anyway?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So why did you bring it up? Why is it that conservatives' arguments devolve into bashing Hillary, anyway?

Buttery email & BENGHAZI!!!!!!

 

[hal2kilo]

Buttery email & BENGHAZI!!!!!!

Apparently repeating fact less lies over and over again does work in conservative circles.

 

[Jhhnn]

Apparently repeating fact less lies over and over again does work in conservative circles.

Of course. It's a basic principle of propaganda. Do I need to quote Goebbels?

Slide it right through their blind spots on the back of lies they already believe in.

 

[soundforbjt]

It wasn't enough of a difference between worst and second worst to matter much, both were viewed unfavorably by historic margins.

Isn't that second picture Trump's signature?

 

[momeNt]

I refuse to accept Russia interfering in our Democracy isn't of any concern. This interference could easily have given us the Trump to which you referenced. Not that Russia directly elected him but there are too many of his people who are not mentally capable of realizing they are being conned.

You think a country with the GDP the size of Texas is responsible for influencing the election more than any other entity?

I have a hard time believing that Russia has a monopoly on interference.

 

[momeNt]

It's the same wedge issue con that the GOP has been running since Gingrich, at least. Russian psyops just exploit social media better.

They know what they're doing & they're not in it for the MAGA. They deliberately & ruthlessly exploit our cultural weaknesses to serve their own ends.

Trumpsters are so caught up in it that they can't back away far enough to get a good look at it. You know, like "Wait... What? I'm with them? How can I be with them? Why would I want to be with them?"

Can you explain how they do it better? How do they outweigh the collective input of western academia, media, values has on the people of the west with their psyops operations?

 

[fskimospy]

You think a country with the GDP the size of Texas is responsible for influencing the election more than any other entity?

I have a hard time believing that Russia has a monopoly on interference.

What other countries do you think interfered in our elections and how?

 

[Maxima1]

What other countries do you think interfered in our elections and how?

I believe he's asking why Russia's bots and stuff matter that much when we spend billions here on it. He does have a point. The media is more at fault for it.

 

[Jaskalas]

You think a country with the GDP the size of Texas is responsible for influencing the election more than any other entity?

I have a hard time believing that Russia has a monopoly on interference.

What sort of logic is that?
Let me try it out. Hey guys, we've got an arson over here but he's not the only one. Best let him go, eh?
On second thought, no, Russia's actions against us matter and they need to be dealt with in response.

This is a form of war and if they throw punches like they have, then we punch back.

 

[Jaskalas]

I believe he's asking why Russia's bots and stuff matter that much when we spend billions here on it. He does have a point. The media is more at fault for it.

Social media. How are they supposed to protect themselves from foreign propaganda?
Maybe a new directive of the FBI and CIA should be to target and block Russia.

 

[Commodus]

You think a country with the GDP the size of Texas is responsible for influencing the election more than any other entity?

I have a hard time believing that Russia has a monopoly on interference.

It doesn't have a monopoly, but it's the only entity we know of that was actively hacking election personnel, running large-scale fake ad campaigns and otherwise launching coordinated manipulation attempts designed solely to cause chaos.

 

[Maxima1]

Social media. How are they supposed to protect themselves from foreign propaganda?
Maybe a new directive of the FBI and CIA should be to target and block Russia.

I would add that I wouldn't just take it lightly as if "interference" is on the same level as political ads, etc. here. I fully suspect the Russians will try to gather kompromat on the Democrats and use it in this election. In my previous post, I'm just referring to that corporate media like the NYTimes and others played a large role in getting Trump in. They spent an inordinate amount of time on the BS about Clinton and refrain from doing the same with Trump.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You think a country with the GDP the size of Texas is responsible for influencing the election more than any other entity?

I have a hard time believing that Russia has a monopoly on interference.

It’s also possible to ignore every single subject matter expert too.

I’ll say it again. I do the fucking, I don’t get fucked.

 

[1prophet]

Yeh, let's splinter the Democrats. They're 90% as bad! Poor Bernie! So cheated!

You're kind splintered the democrats when you abandoned the solid foundation of the working middle class that made the democrat party great so you can be republican-lite corporate stooges while embracing Hollywood celebrities, social justice warrior issues, identity politics, and anything else controversial as long as it doesn't interfere with corporate giveaways, the eroding middle class, race to the bottom trade agreements, etc.

and all is well in your minds, and anyone in the "PARTY" saying otherwise is a traitorous rebel.

Guess what no matter how hard your kind tries republicans will always be better at being republicans because they don't pretend to be republicans like many democrats do behind the scenes, that's why a no name girl handed the #4 establishment democrat his primary ass even after he ran to a GOP fundraising group for help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WdNlIW0jU

 

[Maxima1]

You're kind splintered the democrats when you abandoned the solid foundation of the working middle class that made the democrat party great so you can be republican-lite corporate stooges while embracing Hollywood celebrities, social justice warrior issues, identity politics, and anything else controversial as long as it doesn't interfere with corporate giveaways, the eroding middle class, race to the bottom trade agreements, etc.

and all is well in your minds, and anyone in the "PARTY" saying otherwise is a traitorous rebel.

The ironic part about jhhnn's complaint is that supposedly Hillary lost because the "Bernie Bros" didn't vote. Well, why not go with Sanders as the nominee? Oh, so Bernie Bros vote but the less liberal folks shun him? So a similar argument can be flipped his way. But hey, get back to the end of the line. The establishment Democrats are giving jhhnn his public union benefits. Who cares if they shit over independent contractors and those who work for temp agencies. You can't criticize them.

 

[Jhhnn]

You're kind splintered the democrats when you abandoned the solid foundation of the working middle class that made the democrat party great so you can be republican-lite corporate stooges while embracing Hollywood celebrities, social justice warrior issues, identity politics, and anything else controversial as long as it doesn't interfere with corporate giveaways, the eroding middle class, race to the bottom trade agreements, etc.

and all is well in your minds, and anyone in the "PARTY" saying otherwise is a traitorous rebel.

Guess what no matter how hard your kind tries republicans will always be better at being republicans because they don't pretend to be republicans like many democrats do behind the scenes, that's why a no name girl handed the #4 establishment democrat his primary ass even after he ran to a GOP fundraising group for help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WdNlIW0jU

I applaud Ocasio-Cortez' victory. She is very much one of those dreaded feminista SJW's, isn't she? Or were you too busy raging against Democrats to notice?

 

[Jhhnn]

The ironic part about jhhnn's complaint is that supposedly Hillary lost because the "Bernie Bros" didn't vote. Well, why not go with Sanders as the nominee? Oh, so Bernie Bros vote but the less liberal folks shun him? So a similar argument can be flipped his way. But hey, get back to the end of the line. The establishment Democrats are giving jhhnn his public union benefits. Who cares if they shit over independent contractors and those who work for temp agencies. You can't criticize them.

Desperate Gish galloping, huh? With extra invective & personal attack, of course.

 

[Jhhnn]

Can you explain how they do it better? How do they outweigh the collective input of western academia, media, values has on the people of the west with their psyops operations?

They just reinforce the message of our own right wing. They know it's been tearing us apart for decades so they just push it along. They know what they're doing & how to do it. They have objectivity we lack which makes it easier, obviously. They set out to fuck with our heads & they found a near perfect instrument in Trump.

 

[senseamp]

I knew it was astroturf when I saw the slick spokesman and FoxNews playing it up.

 

[glenn1]

They just reinforce the message of our own right wing. They know it's been tearing us apart for decades so they just push it along. They know what they're doing & how to do it. They have objectivity we lack which makes it easier, obviously. They set out to fuck with our heads & they found a near perfect instrument in Trump.

Or maybe folks heard the Democratic message and decided "nope not interested." That happens sometimes too, people aren't obliged to want what you're selling every single time even if they've bought before and are generally OK with your product. I love salads but sometimes I want a hamburger instead, and it has nothing to do with Russians influencing me. Or sometimes when offered two equally undesirable options instead of the haggis I've had before and disliked (Clinton), I'll pick the surstromming (Trump) which I haven't tried before even though it sounds totally gross.

 

[fskimospy]

Or maybe folks heard the Democratic message and decided "nope not interested." That happens sometimes too, people aren't obliged to want what you're selling every single time even if they've bought before and are generally OK with your product. I love salads but sometimes I want a hamburger instead, and it has nothing to do with Russians influencing me. Or sometimes when offered two equally undesirable options instead of the haggis I've had before and disliked (Clinton), I'll pick the surstromming (Trump) which I haven't tried before even though it sounds totally gross.

Meh, the public generally strongly agrees with Democratic policies. That’s why conservatives rely almost entirely on identity politics in their appeals. That’s why (in a broad sense) you see democrats debate amongst themselves who supports UHC or whatever and Republicans debate who is a ‘true conservative’. Identity politics. Russia ramped up the identity politics and it worked.

I always find it ironic that Republicans accuse democrats of identity politics when they’d basically all they do. More projection I guess.

 

[Jhhnn]

Or maybe folks heard the Democratic message and decided "nope not interested." That happens sometimes too, people aren't obliged to want what you're selling every single time even if they've bought before and are generally OK with your product. I love salads but sometimes I want a hamburger instead, and it has nothing to do with Russians influencing me. Or sometimes when offered two equally undesirable options instead of the haggis I've had before and disliked (Clinton), I'll pick the surstromming (Trump) which I haven't tried before even though it sounds totally gross.

Choosing our leaders isn't a casual choice like what to have for dinner.