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Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Yeh, let's splinter the Democrats. They're 90% as bad! Poor Bernie! So cheated!

Do you honestly believe Pelosi is completely without fault?

IMHO she isnt as bad as the CORPORATE SHILL GOP CONGRESS & SENATE but she is by no means innocent which is why new blood is needed
 
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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Looks like @compuwiz1 fell for it.

Democrats Underperforming with Hispanic voters

Brandon Straka has found his voice. The liberals claim the movement is bots. Fake!
Democrats don't need anyone, except for votes. They divide people into little victim groups and promise them protection, even the moon, until after the elections are over. Every major ghetto in America has one thing in common....run by democrats. #WalkAway

Not surprising
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Do you honestly believe Pelosi is completely without fault?

IMHO she isnt as bad as the CORPORATE SHILL GOP CONGRESS & SENATE but she is by no means innocent which is why new blood is needed

I didn't say that. I won't argue with younger leadership if that's how Dems play it. I'm just not prepared to tear down whatever leadership we end up with. I didn't fall for the Poor Bernie! So Cheated ! routine, either.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Do you honestly believe Pelosi is completely without fault?

IMHO she isnt as bad as the CORPORATE SHILL GOP CONGRESS & SENATE but she is by no means innocent which is why new blood is needed

You do know that without Pelosi, legislative accomplishments under Obama would look like the GOP's legislative accomplishments over the last decade, that is, almost non existent.

Democrats do need some new blood but there is nothing wrong with Pelosi.
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
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You do know that without Pelosi, legislative accomplishments under Obama would look like the GOP's legislative accomplishments over the last decade, that is, almost non existent.

Democrats do need some new blood but there is nothing wrong with Pelosi.

Huh? What legislative accomplishments are you referring to? If someone actually wants something progressive done, they would get rid of the legislative filibuster. Instead, they're falling right into what Republicans want them to do by embracing pay-go like a bunch of imbeciles.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/390898-dem-leaders-embrace-pay-go

Some of the establishment Democrats are like a millstone because of their many years serving corporate interests and being perceived as a threat (e.g. Republicans irrational fear Hillary was going to take all the guns away). Shee-it, I bet if Hillary was president, we would have ~60 Republican Senators going into 2019 and maybe even the Republicans getting to the threshold of being able to unilaterally change the Constitution via Convention of the States.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Huh? What legislative accomplishments are you referring to? If someone actually wants something progressive done, they would get rid of the legislative filibuster. Instead, they're falling right into what Republicans want them to do by embracing pay-go like a bunch of imbeciles.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/390898-dem-leaders-embrace-pay-go

Some of the establishment Democrats are like a millstone because of their many years serving corporate interests and being perceived as a threat (e.g. Republicans irrational fear Hillary was going to take all the guns away). Shee-it, I bet if Hillary was president, we would have ~60 Republican Senators going into 2019 and maybe even the Republicans getting to the threshold of being able to unilaterally change the Constitution via Convention of the States.

Democrats are powerless to do as you offer until they win Congress & you're busily tearing them down before they get there.

Your concerns are duly noted.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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We've got another, dumb ass, concerned troll here folks.


https://www.democraticleader.gov/110th/

Huh? What legislative accomplishments are you referring to? If someone actually wants something progressive done, they would get rid of the legislative filibuster. Instead, they're falling right into what Republicans want them to do by embracing pay-go like a bunch of imbeciles.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/390898-dem-leaders-embrace-pay-go

Some of the establishment Democrats are like a millstone because of their many years serving corporate interests and being perceived as a threat (e.g. Republicans irrational fear Hillary was going to take all the guns away). Shee-it, I bet if Hillary was president, we would have ~60 Republican Senators going into 2019 and maybe even the Republicans getting to the threshold of being able to unilaterally change the Constitution via Convention of the States.
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
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We've got another, dumb ass, concerned troll here folks.


https://www.democraticleader.gov/110th/

This list is pathetic in a number of ways for a super majority Congress and doesn't address why Pelosi is necessary for it. Minimum wage increase to $7.25? Hahaahaha Some of it I don't necessarily agree with either. According to establishment Democrats, for example, the only workers that exist are police, teachers, firefighters, military, and the very bottom poors (even then they just throw scraps at them).

Edit: Realized this link you've posted was about Dubya's term. She does have one for the 111th Congress, which is more relevant.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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This list is pathetic in a number of ways for a super majority Congress and doesn't address why Pelosi is necessary for it. Minimum wage increase to $7.25? Hahaahaha Some of it I don't necessarily agree with either. According to establishment Democrats, for example, the only workers that exist are police, teachers, firefighters, military, and the very bottom poors (even then they just throw scraps at them).

Democrats will never be good enough.

Oh, and Dems lost a filibuster proof majority in the Senate Aug 25, 2009, when Ted Kennedy died. They only held it for 7 months.
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
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Democrats will never be good enough.

Oh, and Dems lost a filibuster proof majority in the Senate Aug 25, 2009, when Ted Kennedy died. They only held it for 7 months.

Funny how Democrats can't catch one Republican, but Republicans can catch a few spineless Democrats even for the most odious of things. Bet the next Gorsuch clone will get some yeas, and the corporate media will back who ever it is just like with Gorsuch. They even feel good about themselves over maintaining the caucus against the GOP tax cut, despite it being very unpopular.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Feb 26, 2009
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This list is pathetic in a number of ways for a super majority Congress and doesn't address why Pelosi is necessary for it. Minimum wage increase to $7.25? Hahaahaha Some of it I don't necessarily agree with either. According to establishment Democrats, for example, the only workers that exist are police, teachers, firefighters, military, and the very bottom poors (even then they just throw scraps at them).

Edit: Realized this link you've posted was about Dubya's term. She does have one for the 111th Congress, which is more relevant.
Eh? Speaking of moving goalposts...

What is it you are mad about again?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Democrats will never be good enough.

Oh, and Dems lost a filibuster proof majority in the Senate Aug 25, 2009, when Ted Kennedy died. They only held it for 7 months.

But they still should have fixed everyrhing.

Of course no one ever holds a republican congress to that standard.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Yes this is a great idea, spend all your time thinking about how the Russians are out to get you instead of actually working on your message to the voters.

You don't get it.

Your party has had their brains co-opted by decades of propagandistic bullshit from the right wing informationsphere. This isn't about liberals getting their message out. These bots are explicitly aimed at riling up the deteriorating minority of brain-drained rightwing nutjobs that are fully primed and salivating to swallow anything that confirms their assumptions of the world around them.

These bots, which are real and you aren't even denying it now, after spending the previous two years denying it, aren't talking to liberals. They are here to give your brood a sense of community and numbers. They flood social media and the only people that like, share, and distribute these fake posts as actual information are rightwing nutjobs like yourself, sp33dy, OrroRororor, boomerang, et al. You guys ate this shit up for years, denied it angrily, yet now accept it but blame the liberals anyway.

The only people actually listening to these obvious bots is you.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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You don't get it.

Your party has had their brains co-opted by decades of propagandistic bullshit from the right wing informationsphere. This isn't about liberals getting their message out. These bots are explicitly aimed at riling up the deteriorating minority of brain-drained rightwing nutjobs that are fully primed and salivating to swallow anything that confirms their assumptions of the world around them.

These bots, which are real and you aren't even denying it now, after spending the previous two years denying it, aren't talking to liberals. They are here to give your brood a sense of community and numbers. They flood social media and the only people that like, share, and distribute these fake posts as actual information are rightwing nutjobs like yourself, sp33dy, OrroRororor, boomerang, et al. You guys ate this shit up for years, denied it angrily, yet now accept it but blame the liberals anyway.

The only people actually listening to these obvious bots is you.
How is it that the deteriorating minority manages to put people in office? I would also point out that blaming stupid people and bots for republican wins doesn't speak well for the towering intelligence of the democrats. Maybe the DNC should have a few bots as well? These things seem to have a nearly magical ability to influence people.
 

Lash444

Golden Member
Sep 17, 2002
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How is it that the deteriorating minority manages to put people in office? I would also point out that blaming stupid people and bots for republican wins doesn't speak well for the towering intelligence of the democrats. Maybe the DNC should have a few bots as well? These things seem to have a nearly magical ability to influence people.

So are you admitting you don't know how gerrymandering works, or just that stupid?
 
Mar 11, 2004
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It's all the fault of the Russians.

Americans are innocent. Republicans are innocent. Trump is a saint. No American has ever spread fakenews. No American has ever called the press "Lügenpresse". No American has ever voted for an arsehole like Trump. No American has ever made a twitter-bot, or used one. No American has ever locked children in cages. No American has ever tried to remove people's basic pillars like health care or social security. No American has ever tried to stop other Americans from voting. Or their vote having an impact. USA never started unnecessary wars around the world, killing hunderds of thousands of people.

The Russians invented gerrymandering. The Russians started Fox News. The Russians invaded Iraq. The Russians funded a civil-war that destroyed Syria. The Russians increased military spending. The Russians lowered taxes for the rich. The Russians did it all. The Russians did it !

REALLY MOMMY, I DIDN'T DO IT. IT WAS ZE RUSSIANS !!!

You'd realize that the source of all of those problems is the same. The same thing that lets marketing/advertising work, is the same thing that has enabled the politicians doing those things to win office, is the same thing the Russians were manipulating. Its all the same problem, and it needs to be addressed comprehensively.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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You don't get it.

Your party has had their brains co-opted by decades of propagandistic bullshit from the right wing informationsphere. This isn't about liberals getting their message out. These bots are explicitly aimed at riling up the deteriorating minority of brain-drained rightwing nutjobs that are fully primed and salivating to swallow anything that confirms their assumptions of the world around them.

These bots, which are real and you aren't even denying it now, after spending the previous two years denying it, aren't talking to liberals. They are here to give your brood a sense of community and numbers. They flood social media and the only people that like, share, and distribute these fake posts as actual information are rightwing nutjobs like yourself, sp33dy, OrroRororor, boomerang, et al. You guys ate this shit up for years, denied it angrily, yet now accept it but blame the liberals anyway.

The only people actually listening to these obvious bots is you.

Please. The Russians sold the shit out of the Poor Bernie! So cheated! Can't vote for crooked Hillary! routine.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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You'd realize that the source of all of those problems is the same. The same thing that lets marketing/advertising work, is the same thing that has enabled the politicians doing those things to win office, is the same thing the Russians were manipulating. Its all the same problem, and it needs to be addressed comprehensively.

Correct. The Russians just sold decades old GOP agitprop a different way. So did Trump.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Please. The Russians sold the shit out of the Poor Bernie! So cheated! Can't vote for crooked Hillary! routine.

Which, again, wasn't really all that directed at Democrats. It was directed largely at independents and Republicans that, as much as they hated Trump, just needed the smallest of reasons to hate Hilary and the Dems even more than they already did.

It's not like the Bernie Bros were ever Hilary or Dem supporters anyway. The vast majority of bot activity was squarely aimed at Republicans and conservative-leaning independents.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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It's like you think that people cant process more than one thing at a time.

Bingo. The notion that calling attention to Russian intrusion means we aren't paying attention to anything else in our political landscape right now is ludicrous. Some of us may have even watched the royal wedding, which is far less relevant to US politics than Russia's twitter bots. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Which, again, wasn't really all that directed at Democrats. It was directed largely at independents and Republicans that, as much as they hated Trump, just needed the smallest of reasons to hate Hilary and the Dems even more than they already did.

It's not like the Bernie Bros were ever Hilary or Dem supporters anyway. The vast majority of bot activity was squarely aimed at Republicans and conservative-leaning independents.

Bernie bros were not all outsiders, not by a longshot. He enjoyed wide support among rank & file Dems. He just didn't win. The Russians were all over that discontent like stink on shit.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Bernie bros were not all outsiders, not by a longshot. He enjoyed wide support among rank & file Dems. He just didn't win. The Russians were all over that discontent like stink on shit.
And it only took 80,000 or so to make the difference.
 

Ottonomous

Senior member
May 15, 2014
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Yes this is a great idea, spend all your time thinking about how the Russians are out to get you instead of actually working on your message to the voters.

You are absolutely right, Democrats should get in touch with a private corporation to target voters on social media directly with their message
 
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