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Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.
Frank Murkowski is not Vladimir Putin, he was not in the KGB, and he had no nuclear weapons.
Ok, now please explain to me how Obama is qualified to deal with Putin.

How seriously are they going to take a guy who said that Russia and Georgia should take their differences to the UN and have them worked out there.

Is he running for President or playground monitor???

Hmmm...well I guess he'd have to dry Joe Biden out for that one.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.

Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
 

QED

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ok, now please explain to me how Obama is qualified to deal with Putin.

Ummm... he has a penis?

As we all know, the penis makes for a wonderful tiebreaker when it comes to comparing the candidates on the issues.




 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.
Frank Murkowski is not Vladimir Putin, he was not in the KGB, and he had no nuclear weapons.
Ok, now please explain to me how Obama is qualified to deal with Putin.

How seriously are they going to take a guy who said that Russia and Georgia should take their differences to the UN and have them worked out there.

Is he running for President or playground monitor???

Yeah! What kind of jerk would want to take it to the UN!?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Do you ever realize how stupid your argument sound?



The city has an area of about 12.4 square miles (32.2 km²). 11.7 square miles (30.4 km²) of it is land and 0.7 square miles (1.8 km²) of it is water. The area is 6% water.



[edit] Demographics
The census of 2000[8] reported 5,469 people,
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.
Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
What idea is contradictory??

Palin is certainly NOT weak.
And Palin is not running to be President.

Obama is the weak one here.
 

TechAZ

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I agree with Damon 100%. That's why I'm not voting for McCain. It's easy to be weak on some issues as a President since you will have a full staff doing practically everything for you....but with National Security you cannot have the image of Sarah Palin.

EDIT: Seriously
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: TechAZ
I agree with Damon 100%. That's why I'm not voting for McCain. It's easy to be weak on some issues as a President since you will have a full staff doing practically everything for you....but with National Security you cannot have the image of Sarah Palin.

EDIT: Seriously

I agree. And just because he's a movie star doesn't mean he isn't concerned about his country. But the Creationist shit scares me a lot too. I mean, if she believes in Rapture, she may not be afraid to sacrifice the world and squeeze the nuclear trigger.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.
Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
What idea is contradictory??

Palin is certainly NOT weak.
And Palin is not running to be President.

Obama is the weak one here.

ALL four candidates are running for President.
 

PokerGuy

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Palin is a very strong personality, but with little or no experience. Obama is a great speaker with no experience. Both unqualified at present. However, one of them is running for president, the other is not.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.
Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
What idea is contradictory??

Palin is certainly NOT weak.
And Palin is not running to be President.

Obama is the weak one here.

ALL four candidates are running for President.

No, they are not.


 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Chicago, IL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANYWHERE IN MOTHERFUCKING ALASKA

What the fuck is so hard to understand about that? Alaska is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM representative of anything in mainstream America. Her experience as governor there is about as useful to the VP spot as my experience running a lemonade stand when I was 5.

And Chicago is mainstream Amaerica? I thought that was one of the beauties of our country - it's a melting pot.

Statements like yours explain why it is so important that we have the electoral college.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
...And in the event of something happening to McCain (lets say 2 years into his term), I'm confident she'd be up to the challenge.
Really? Based on what exactly? That she put a plane on ebay, came in second in a beauty contest, or has 5 kids? Seriously, what makes you assume she is up to the challenge? She was the mayor of a small town, and for less than two years has been the governor of a state in which even the largest city is a small to medium town by the standards of the rest of the country? McCain only met her once or twice, and she has NO foreign policy experience...so again, how could you possibly be confident that she can stare down Vladimir Stalin?
She does have foreign policy experience. Her state borders Russia and Canada.
 

BMW540I6speed

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I see the McCain campaign media narritive is working. Lets just cry sexism, everytime critisism of Palin is mentioned. Forget she is a woman for a minute.

This is a "person" who McCain has put a frail heartbeat away from the presidency whose knowledge of the world outside the United States comprise of a quick dash to Canada and visits to two US military bases in the Middle East. Do you think that as the second in line to 73 old man for the presidency of the United States, she should be trusted with the leadership of the western world? I said the western world because I can't see the rest of the world taking her seriously.

Do you think that Putin and Medvdev or China's leaders are going to listen to Sarah Palins "This war is God will" talk. What it tells us is the status of the United States political leadership and political competence. America elected Bush who "looks into peoples souls" and now they may elect an old war hawk and a born again who got her first passport only last year.
 

BMW540I6speed

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.
Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
What idea is contradictory??

Palin is certainly NOT weak.
And Palin is not running to be President.

Obama is the weak one here.

Oh please, Obama has traveled the world most of his life. He is very well respected in the international community.

I don't know why I even respond to you. If the Republicans would have chosen Bozo the Clown for his running mate, you would find a way to rationalize and defend it

 

andy04

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Why do i care about what a Hollywood actor (which we all know are AAA Grade Left Loons) says...

All his speculation are based on IF she becomes CiC. I would be VERY SCARED to replace Bush with another MORON who will sit donw and talk with Putin.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: loki8481
why should I care about what some former Harvard student thinks again?

Because he actually gives a damn about the country?

EDITED for accuracy.

What does his having been a Harvard student have to do with his grasp of politics? He was an English major, not Poly-Sci, not Econ, not International Studies, not anything that would give him any special insight into politics at all.

ZV
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: senseamp
I wouldn't buy green bananas if I was McCain. His mental health is a bigger concern than his physical condition, he seems to be regressing with time.

That made me LOL!
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Rubber stamp Obama? WTF are you talking about? Stop spreading fucking lies Republican slime.

This seems to be the #1 trick in the conservative playbook. Whenever you point out their lies and hypocrisies they just say, well the other guy is like totally worse. Fucking idiots.

what has Obama said or done to make you think he'd buck his own party? he's voted on party lines 97% of the time.

(McCain is somewhere between 79-88% according to google)

edit: my Obama numbers were too low according to factcheck

McCain 2000 and McCain 2008 are apples and oranges. What are McCain's recent numbers in voting with his party and GWB? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it 95%? Given the absolute disaster they've been, why has he sided with them *more* recently?
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: QED
That's probably the biggest character problem I personally have with Obama-- he doesn't strike me as the type of person who would stick out his neck politically to do what he believes is right. All of his stances are populist-based. I disagree with McCain's stances on a whole-range of issues, but I believe he is much more likely to do what he believes is right without considering the political consequences.

You mean the way he's done a 180 recently on many issues to conform to what his political party stands for?

 

bl4ckfl4g

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Agreed. She might have shored up the base, but she scared off a lot of common-sense independents.
Ironically enough, Palin is bringing back a lot of independents to McCain...the demographic of independents sick of the Bush Administration, but not particularly thrilled with Obama, and miss the John McCain of 2000.

I have seen the polls but I just can't understand this. I could have voted for McCain before he made this ridiculous vp pick.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: loki8481
why should I care about what some former Harvard student thinks again?

Because he actually gives a damn about the country?

EDITED for accuracy.

What does his having been a Harvard student have to do with his grasp of politics? He was an English major, not Poly-Sci, not Econ, not International Studies, not anything that would give him any special insight into politics at all.

ZV

Oh that's rich... LINK

Palin spent her first college semester at Hawaii Pacific College, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.[17][18]
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm not even talking about Obama, I'm talking about hockey-mom church lady vs. our most powerful and ruthless enemies. These are serious, evil men, and they WILL NOT take this klondike bar seriously.
Do you realize that there is a line of people in Alaska who did not take her seriously until she kicked their asses.

Starting with the three term mayor of Wasilla who she beat.
Then Frank Murkowski who spent 20 years in the Senate before became governor. She killed him the PRIMARY winning 51% of the vote in a 3 way race.
She then beat a two term former Democrat governor 48-41.

I am sure that everyone of these guys dismissed her as some fool hockey mom, right up until she kicked their asses on election day.

Here's the problem Pro-Jo, I have someone I want you to meet. His name is ProfJohn from about a month ago.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
We should also not forget that Kennedy's inexperience caused his first meeting with Khrushchev to be a total disaster that lead the Russians into think they could push Kennedy around.

The missile crisis was created because the Russians didn't think Kennedy would stand up to him the way he did.
Back then, having world leaders think we were weak was HORRIBLE, TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE! After all, we almost all died in a nuclear war due to the Russians thinking we were weak. I'm glad to see in the intervening month it's become okay for the Russians to view us as weak, because we've got people who are secretly tough and will win in the end!

Do you ever get a strange feeling in your head when you have to reconcile all these contradictory ideas? Do you even remember having these opposing ideas in the past? Or have we always been at war with Eastasia?
What idea is contradictory??

Palin is certainly NOT weak.
And Palin is not running to be President.

Obama is the weak one here.

You just said in the first quoted post that people have often seen Palin as weak. (and were then proven wrong) In your second quoted post you said that the Cuban missile crisis was caused because the Russians saw Kennedy as weak. Before this was a problem for you, now it's not a problem for you. Why? Because you are fully programmable.
 
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