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clarkey01

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Originally posted by: randay
yeah but youll never get viruses or worms and it never crashes and its super easy to use and everybody loves it!

Yeah it just works and I'm a hippie
 
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Originally posted by: waggy
you just reliezed that apple is insane on the prices?

No no no waggy, you've got it all wrong. Apple is freaking genius with the prices, it's Apple users who are insane.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: waggy
you just reliezed that apple is insane on the prices?

No no no waggy, you've got it all wrong. Apple is freaking genius with the prices, it's Apple users who are insane.

Yeah, it's just an extension of capitalism. Apple charges $200 for an $80 hard drive and people rush to give them money. They know they're overcharging. Their gain, their users' loss.

Uneducated Apple users are looked down on by computer-savvy people in a similar fashion to how uneducated PC users are looked down on when they spend tons of money on the Geek Squad to "fix their computer." They're similar wastes of money. Stupidity is platform-agnostic.

What I can't stand is when I see Mac users complaining about how expensive the computers are yet they still insist on buying them. Those people have realized that Apple is a rip off, yet they continue to give them money. That's just dumb. Apple is very much pay to play. You want OS X? Pay up. You're looking at several hundred bucks extra for similar hardware to run it. Think that's unfair? Quit whining. Either pay it and shut up, or switch to Windows (or better yet, Linux, which is free) and save money since you think Apple's hardware prices are unfair.

It's all up to the user. I just don't want them to QQ to me about how Apple's mean for charging them too much but they refuse to look at alternatives.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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1. Yes, Apple products are more expensive than their competitors. I doubt that is why you hate Apple, because the price would only affect you if you wanted to buy one of their products, which I doubt you do. I think it's funny how so many people who would never even consider buying an Apple product care so much about the price.
2. Every PC manufacturer overcharges on RAM upgrades. Maybe Apple does it more than others, I don't know. As has been pointed out, the US price for that kit is about 50% higher than at Newegg, which seems pretty typical for RAM markup.
3. Looking at it as a 6 GB upgrade makes no sense at all considering that the 2 GB it's replacing probably cost $50.
4. Obviously you can buy the memory wherever you want and install it yourself.

So in summary, Apple profits from some consumers' noobishness.
 

Snapster

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Oct 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: clarkey01
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
This isn't exclusive to Apple but they do take it to extremes.

Yes but £880 to go to 8GB of Ram , thats about $1200 ish...

Closer to $1500

Edit, seen correction, but damn expensive ! Seems that doubling the amount equates to almost ten times the price ....
 

biggestmuff

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That's why you don't buy extra RAM from Apple. I bought a Mac Pro last year with the base 2GB of RAM and then bought 8GB of additional RAM via an online store. I saved a couple hundred, if I remember correctly.
 

KeithP

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I try to ignore things I hate. I find it frees up my spare time to do things I like.

-KeithP
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: mugs
1. Yes, Apple products are more expensive than their competitors. I doubt that is why you hate Apple, because the price would only affect you if you wanted to buy one of their products, which I doubt you do. I think it's funny how so many people who would never even consider buying an Apple product care so much about the price.
2. Every PC manufacturer overcharges on RAM upgrades. Maybe Apple does it more than others, I don't know. As has been pointed out, the US price for that kit is about 50% higher than at Newegg, which seems pretty typical for RAM markup.
3. Looking at it as a 6 GB upgrade makes no sense at all considering that the 2 GB it's replacing probably cost $50.
4. Obviously you can buy the memory wherever you want and install it yourself.

So in summary, Apple profits from some consumers' noobishness.

a 50% markup is typical for DELL or HP or whoever. It just seems more extreme because it's so much money. Half of $1500 is a lot of money, half of $200 isn't so much. But it's still 50%. Dells markups are no better, as I sited my neighbor who spend $115 for a 500gb HD when he already had an 80. That's well over a 50% markup even. 80GB hd's on Newegg are like 50 bucks. So he paid $175 for a 500gb. that's a 3 times + markup. Doesn't look as shitty of a deal though because it's only $115 total.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
2x4GB DDR3 SODIMM kits are like $700 US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...me=8GB%20(2%20x%204GB)

In the US, Apple charges $1,100 for the upgrade. So it's still overpriced by a good 50%. Not as bad as some of Apple's upgrades. On that same computer, they charge $200 to upgrade to a 500 GB, 5400 RPM hard drive, even though you can buy such a hard drive separately for about $90. So they're charging over double the actual cost, and that's before you even consider the fact that it's an upgrade (i.e., they're removing the stock 160 GB hard drive and adding a 500 GB one).

They are charging more than double the RETAIL cost. That is some markup...
 

JujuFish

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
2x4GB DDR3 SODIMM kits are like $700 US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...me=8GB%20(2%20x%204GB)

In the US, Apple charges $1,100 for the upgrade. So it's still overpriced by a good 50%. Not as bad as some of Apple's upgrades. On that same computer, they charge $200 to upgrade to a 500 GB, 5400 RPM hard drive, even though you can buy such a hard drive separately for about $90. So they're charging over double the actual cost, and that's before you even consider the fact that it's an upgrade (i.e., they're removing the stock 160 GB hard drive and adding a 500 GB one).

They are charging more than double the RETAIL cost. That is some markup...

No, they're not. Read the thread.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
2x4GB DDR3 SODIMM kits are like $700 US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...me=8GB%20(2%20x%204GB)

In the US, Apple charges $1,100 for the upgrade. So it's still overpriced by a good 50%. Not as bad as some of Apple's upgrades. On that same computer, they charge $200 to upgrade to a 500 GB, 5400 RPM hard drive, even though you can buy such a hard drive separately for about $90. So they're charging over double the actual cost, and that's before you even consider the fact that it's an upgrade (i.e., they're removing the stock 160 GB hard drive and adding a 500 GB one).

They are charging more than double the RETAIL cost. That is some markup...

No, they're not. Read the thread.

How about you read
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
How about you read

Their UK price is substantially higher than their US price. Don't UK prices have VAT built in?
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
2x4GB DDR3 SODIMM kits are like $700 US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...me=8GB%20(2%20x%204GB)

In the US, Apple charges $1,100 for the upgrade. So it's still overpriced by a good 50%. Not as bad as some of Apple's upgrades. On that same computer, they charge $200 to upgrade to a 500 GB, 5400 RPM hard drive, even though you can buy such a hard drive separately for about $90. So they're charging over double the actual cost, and that's before you even consider the fact that it's an upgrade (i.e., they're removing the stock 160 GB hard drive and adding a 500 GB one).

They are charging more than double the RETAIL cost. That is some markup...

No, they're not. Read the thread.

Read my post in full. They're charging a little over 50% more than the retail cost for the RAM upgrade. For the hard drive, they're charging more than double the retail cost (again, not taking into account the cost of the 160 GB hard drive that they're removing in order to install the 500 GB one). Since Apple gets these hard drives presumably at a significant discount, they're charging probably around 3-4x as much as they pay for them.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Regs
But apple computers work. My PC is a giant paper weight.

ive got a room full of puters for my kids to use (and me to use as a render farm) as well as a couple laptops on the same network wirelessly, not to mention 12 years of customers using pcs and not one is a money sink or paperweight.
 

ch33zw1z

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I'm surprised when others are surprised by Apple (and many other vendors) prices...
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: thescreensavers
Actually I have another question. Wtf do you need 8gigs of ram for?

I don't know if the question was directed towards me, but I have 10GB of RAM. My Mac Pro is used as a Digital Audio Workstation with Logic Pro 8 running at 24/96. I use software samplers and software instruments with HUGE audio files; Toontrack's Superior Drummer 2.0 and loads of East/West Quantum Leap sound libraries to include EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Pro. If you understand what I just said, then I'll have answered your question.
 
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