LOL @ The PRICE....

[state 08]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ballmode
if apple priced themselves like M$ the home user desktop wars would begin

Snow Leopard (OS 10.6) is a $29 dollar upgrade from Leopard (10.5).

and every SP from MS is free

also, here's a bargain of the day: Radioshack DVI/HDMI converter - $35 :wtf;

Technically, if you're comparing Snow Leopard to Leopard, then you should be comparing Win7 to Vista. Both pairs are, IMO, glorified service packs.

But, Apple's "SP" update is cheaper.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: VinylxScratches

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ballmode
if apple priced themselves like M$ the home user desktop wars would begin

Snow Leopard (OS 10.6) is a $29 dollar upgrade from Leopard (10.5).

and every SP from MS is free

also, here's a bargain of the day: Radioshack DVI/HDMI converter - $35 :wtf;

So is every service pack from Apple.

We're at 10.5.7 right now with Leopard.
Snow Leopard will be 10.6.

The Snow Leopard is the only cheap upgrade. If you started from OSX, you're out a lot of money.

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
It seems Macs are best for really high pro equipment for content creators who know what they're doing, and for yuppies who have too much money.

I know animation studios such as South Park Studios use macs as desktops (rendering is done on linux). Many schools are Mac-biased in teaching DCC, so that can create Mac-dependent developers.
I'm sure a Windows setup would be just as fine as a Mac setup for these things, just different software. That said, aren't there more commercial (and professional) modeling programs available on Windows as opposed to Mac?

 

[akouocoop]

Gee...I like how this was just a Mac slam fest

Macbook pro - from store.apple.com

2GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $1100 US

Dell M17X - from configure.dell.us.com

4GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $725 US

unless you want 1333MHz

4GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $950 US



Apple $183.33 / gig
Dell $181.25 / gig
or $237.50 / gig


Now. Let's just not upgrade ram at the retailer(which we all already knew), add it ourselves, and move along. If someone is not savvy enough to install it themselves, then let them pay the premium.

 

[Corbett]

great work akouocoop! I was just about to post the exact same thing!

Dell 4GB Ram to 8GB Ram - $765

Apple 4GB Ram to 8GB Ram - $1000

 

[Red Squirrel]

wow that's almost like buying a dell server. The minute you increase the ram they rape you. so many companies make a killing off ram, because it's almost free how cheap the cost is, but then they jack up their prices for consumers. Server hosting companies are the same. You have to pay PER MONTH $20-40 more per GB for anything 8GB or more when it actually costs them half of your monthly payment to buy the ram, and that's assuming they don't have some in stock which they probably do. Companies are there to make profit afterall.

 

[akouocoop]

Originally posted by: Corbett
great work akouocoop! I was just about to post the exact same thing!

Dell 4GB Ram to 8GB Ram - $765

Apple 4GB Ram to 8GB Ram - $1000

I've noticed now too that different models cost different amounts to upgrade. Both are Apple and Dell are still selling a lot closer to retail than street price.

Of course, I guess that they are covering components they install under their warranty. Worth something to someone somewhere, I suppose.

Usually not worth that much to me.

**edit: typo

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: akouocoop
Gee...I like how this was just a Mac slam fest

Macbook pro - from store.apple.com

2GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $1100 US

Dell M17X - from configure.dell.us.com

4GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $725 US

unless you want 1333MHz

4GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $950 US



Apple $183.33 / gig
Dell $181.25 / gig
or $237.50 / gig


Now. Let's just not upgrade ram at the retailer(which we all already knew), add it ourselves, and move along. If someone is not savvy enough to install it themselves, then let them pay the premium.

:disgust: I hope you never have to work with numbers, and you have never taken even a high school level science or statistics class. I guess you HAVE to lie to make Macs look goo.

Macbok Pro 4gb to 8gb: $1000 for 1066mhz ram ($250 a gig), Dell charges less for faster ram and significantly less for comparable ram.
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...991LL/A?mco=NjcxMTQ5Mg

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
wow that's almost like buying a dell server. The minute you increase the ram they rape you. so many companies make a killing off ram, because it's almost free how cheap the cost is, but then they jack up their prices for consumers. Server hosting companies are the same. You have to pay PER MONTH $20-40 more per GB for anything 8GB or more when it actually costs them half of your monthly payment to buy the ram, and that's assuming they don't have some in stock which they probably do. Companies are there to make profit afterall.

These are 2x4GB sticks, not the more common 2GB sticks, double density chips are expensive.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
The Snow Leopard is the only cheap upgrade. If you started from OSX, you're out a lot of money.

6.5 paid upgrades for OS X vs 3 during a similar timeframe for Windows... but the Windows upgrades are more expensive. I think you'd come out ahead with Windows if you have one PC, but you'd come out ahead with OS X if you have two or more PCs since Apple will sell you a 5 PC license for less than the cost of two copies of OS X.

Originally posted by: akouocoop
Macbook pro - from store.apple.com
2GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $1100 US

Dell M17X - from configure.dell.us.com
4GB RAM to 8GB RAM = $725 US

Apple $183.33 / gig
Dell $181.25 / gig

You can't look at it as an upgrade from 2 GB or 4 GB to 8 GB, because both 2 GB and 4 GB cost at most ~10% of what 8 GB costs. So yeah, Apple charges quite a bit more than Dell for the memory.

Now. Let's just not upgrade ram at the retailer(which we all already knew), add it ourselves, and move along. If someone is not savvy enough to install it themselves, then let them pay the premium.

:thumbsup:

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: Barfo

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
That's why you never upgrade the ram through Apple...

Or any other manufacturer, for that matter.

This. /thread

 

[Parasitic]

Why in the world do we seem to have an "OMG APPLE IS OVERPRICED TO THE INFINITY!!!!!11111oneoneone" thread every day.
Yes, sometimes it's overpriced, get over it.

I certainly hope that you'd put your woman in place when she's yelping around you asking for your plastics so she can go out and charge herself some $1400 Louis Vuitton bag when she could've shopped at Target and gotten a similarly sized and functional hangbag for $40. Is a Louis Vuitton bag really worth the extra $1360? I doubt it, but they've established their brand image and marketing and people will buy them.

Well, if Casio puts diamond studs on their digital watches and sells them at $40k apiece, the world's snobbier people will be wearing Casioes instead of Rolexes. Are Rolex watches really worth that much more or are more usable than a Casio?

 

[akouocoop]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
:disgust: I hope you never have to work with numbers, and you have never taken even a high school level science or statistics class. I guess you HAVE to lie to make Macs look goo.

Macbok Pro 4gb to 8gb: $1000 for 1066mhz ram ($250 a gig), Dell charges less for faster ram and significantly less for comparable ram.
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...991LL/A?mco=NjcxMTQ5Mg


These are 2x4GB sticks, not the more common 2GB sticks, double density chips are expensive.

Wow, ar-tard...go look at the website for the other model of Macbook Pro

http://store.apple.com/us/conf...990LL/A?mco=NjcxMTQ2Mw

Notice I said right after that there was different pricing for different models? Just like Dell.

Now...you go back to reading comprehension.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: waggy
you just reliezed that apple is insane on the prices?

No no no waggy, you've got it all wrong. Apple is freaking genius with the prices, it's Apple users who are insane.

Absolutely this. I'm not an Apple fan at all, I refuse to purchase any Apple products. However, you can't argue with the business strategy. It works brilliantly, and they make a lot of money off it.

 

[Nitemare]

Answer = don't buy a Mac...

 

[Gothgar]

lol

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ballmode
if apple priced themselves like M$ the home user desktop wars would begin

Snow Leopard (OS 10.6) is a $29 dollar upgrade from Leopard (10.5).

and every SP from MS is free

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: zinfamous
my boss picked up a new macbook pro 17" a few weeks ago, and "needed" the 8gb. (she actually did, considering the sequencing she plans to run).

Then why the quotes??

because she wouldn't listen to me when I told her that it would be half that price ~4 months from now (the 2gb modules being ~$50 each).

She was flying out of the country for 2 or so weeks, and felt like it had to get done then (As opposed to back in the lab)....ir really didn't.

She does need it--eventually.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ballmode
if apple priced themselves like M$ the home user desktop wars would begin

Snow Leopard (OS 10.6) is a $29 dollar upgrade from Leopard (10.5).

and every SP from MS is free

So are the Mac Service Packs.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Guys, I hate Apple, but seriously? Do you know how much 2x4GB DDR3 SODIMMs cost? Like $700, street price. They really aren't charging much.

 

[EricMartello]

Yes, Apple does mark up hardware A LOT, moreso than most PC makers do because they more less force people to buy Macs to use Mac OS (aka Pretty FreeBSD). The thing is, you cannot say "I can get this part on Newegg for $xxx so it's overpriced if Dell/HP/Apple charges $yyy". There are costs associated with building PCs, supporting them and let's not forget making a PROFIT when all is said and done. If I was selling PCs you can bet your ass I'd want he markup to be in the 50% range. The burger you pay $10 for at Applebees isn't a "rip off" because you can grill your own burger at home for $1...when you buy a prebuilt PC vs one your build yourself, similar rules apply.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
Why in the world do we seem to have an "OMG APPLE IS OVERPRICED TO THE INFINITY!!!!!11111oneoneone" thread every day.
Yes, sometimes it's overpriced, get over it.

I certainly hope that you'd put your woman in place when she's yelping around you asking for your plastics so she can go out and charge herself some $1400 Louis Vuitton bag when she could've shopped at Target and gotten a similarly sized and functional hangbag for $40. Is a Louis Vuitton bag really worth the extra $1360? I doubt it, but they've established their brand image and marketing and people will buy them.

Well, if Casio puts diamond studs on their digital watches and sells them at $40k apiece, the world's snobbier people will be wearing Casioes instead of Rolexes. Are Rolex watches really worth that much more or are more usable than a Casio?

Not directly from Casio, but you can buy Casio G-Shock watches with 100k in diamonds added lol. I saw somebody wearing one at a music studio I was at and was like "WTF!" To take a $150 watch and bling it to the price of a house in a lot of states is the most ass backwards thing I've ever seen lol.