Lollipop 5.0 just got pushed to a whole bunch of Samsung devices

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Mojoed

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Still waiting for 5.x on my Verizon Note 4.

Only recently got 5.0.2 o. My 2012 Nexus 7
 

mcvickj

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I just installed it on my Sprint S5 a few days ago. So far the two things I miss are the shortcuts to change from Sound, Vibrate, Silent on the Device options menu when you old the power button in for a few seconds. The other gripe I have is when the phone is on silent that it also silences your alarms. Learned this the hard way and over slept. Have since learned about the priority interruptions feature.
 

JimKiler

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Here's hoping they push it to the wifi Tab S 8.4 soon!!

If anyone gets it on their Tab S, please report any issues you encounter. Thanks!

no issues on my Galaxy 10.5. What is surprising is not little the changes are noticable with the Samsung touchwiz. The change from kitkat to Lollipop was very noticeable on my Nexus 7 but on this samsung tablet it still looks like kitkat in a lot of ways.
 

thilanliyan

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no issues on my Galaxy 10.5. What is surprising is not little the changes are noticable with the Samsung touchwiz. The change from kitkat to Lollipop was very noticeable on my Nexus 7 but on this samsung tablet it still looks like kitkat in a lot of ways.

Is it any faster?
On my 8.4, there is just a hint of lag when moving through menus, app screens, etc. with Kitkat. Haven't got the Lollipop update yet.
 
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StrangerGuy

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Looks like the S4 and S5 on a few carriers and the Note 3 and Note 4 on a bunch of carriers. My Tmo Note 3 is downloading the update now.

I still don't understand why we have to rely on carriers to deliver software updates. It should be Google makes and releases Android updates, manufacturers update their skins, then carriers update their apps. Apple does this right. The stats on iPhones running the most current iOS version make Android Lollipop look like its still in beta. 2% of Android are running Lollipop while 68% of iOS devices are on iOS8.

There is no excuse for 98% of devices running your OS to be that out of date.

Even without carrier interference, all stems from the fact that Google wants to enjoy Windows-like popularity cake and eat it too by not offering end user support.
 

JimKiler

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Is it any faster?
On my 8.4, there is just a hint of lag when moving through menus, app screens, etc. with Kitkat. Haven't got the Lollipop update yet.

It does seem a little snappier but could that be due to a new install? In a few months i expect minor lag like before.

Even without carrier interference, all stems from the fact that Google wants to enjoy Windows-like popularity cake and eat it too by not offering end user support.

Google wants to be in between users and phones and we think of our phones as Android when really we should think of them as Samsung carrier specific phones who chose Android OS. It makes sense that Google wanted to be open so no company would release a phone using a competing OS. They also have tried to help us out by putting stuff in Google play and refine the license agreement.

What Google should do is fully support their Nexus line of devices for people like you and I who would prefer the Android experience not tainted by manufacturers and carriers. Today they have a small selection and limited run of phones. The nexus 5 was nice at $400 but now you can only get a Nexus 6 for $650.
 

jacktesterson

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It does seem a little snappier but could that be due to a new install? In a few months i expect minor lag like before.



Google wants to be in between users and phones and we think of our phones as Android when really we should think of them as Samsung carrier specific phones who chose Android OS. It makes sense that Google wanted to be open so no company would release a phone using a competing OS. They also have tried to help us out by putting stuff in Google play and refine the license agreement.

What Google should do is fully support their Nexus line of devices for people like you and I who would prefer the Android experience not tainted by manufacturers and carriers. Today they have a small selection and limited run of phones. The nexus 5 was nice at $400 but now you can only get a Nexus 6 for $650.

Huawei will fix that soon enough. Rumored to be replacing the Nexus 5 with another cheaper 5 inch Nexus.
 

KentState

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Nope...no idea at all.

Now I'll go back to work. Doing IT and Tech Support. At a large cell phone distribution company. Working on Android phones.

Actually working with a carrier, the IT/Tech Support guys are far removed from the ones responsible for the operating systems on phones. Not sure that qualifies you any more than the janitor at the hospital giving brain surgery advice.
 

ChronoReverse

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Installing a Touchwiz Lollipop build on my GS4. Hopefully Samsung didn't try too hard to port Touchwiz to it.
 

StrangerGuy

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It makes sense that Google wanted to be open so no company would release a phone using a competing OS. They also have tried to help us out by putting stuff in Google play and refine the license agreement.

Google is helping us is only because their ultimate goal for Android from their POV is get as much Gapps onto people as possible, everything else is secondary with the responsibility better off pushed to others, like the testing and validation crap. I doubt they even care about existing fragmentation of the Android user base as long as Gapps still work.
 

dawheat

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Google is helping us is only because their ultimate goal for Android from their POV is get as much Gapps onto people as possible, everything else is secondary with the responsibility better off pushed to others, like the testing and validation crap. I doubt they even care about existing fragmentation of the Android user base as long as Gapps still work.

This doesn't make any sense at all. The entire strength of Android is that Google controls the base platform and OEMs can customize it to differentiate themselves. Google certainly handles the testing and validation of stock Android and honestly has about the same QA quality as Apple (which is to say decent but not amazing).

OEM customizations get us things like multi-window, double tap to wake, knock unlock, aggregated content feeds (e.g. Blinkfeed), mSD vs no mSD ,removable battery vs fixed battery, curved displays, all variety of display sizes and UIs- you can go on forever. Whether you care or not about each of these features doesn't matter - it's that you can pick the combination of features and UI that appeal to you the most.

Google being a bottleneck to build, test, and distribute all the OEM added features would basically eliminate all variety simply b/c it wouldn't scale. Apple has one UI and set of features - and they do it extremely well - but there is no choice and the extent of customization is basically wallpapers.

Having them both operate with the same model would be such a waste for consumers.

And of course a company builds products to benefit themselves - is Apple building iOS for some altruistic reason?
 

jacktesterson

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I have the Tab S 8.4 and 10.5

My 10.5 received the update to Lollipop. (8.4 has not yet) Samsung really spent some time optimizing as things are clearly snappier and smoother on Lollipop then the KitKat rom it replaced!

I think there will be a lot of happy Tab S owners with the update.

One other note, I have a Nexus 9 as well and its still on 5.0.1. I find it funny my Tab S 10.5 is now on 5.0.2. What's up Google?
 

thilanliyan

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I have the Tab S 8.4 and 10.5

My 10.5 received the update to Lollipop. (8.4 has not yet) Samsung really spent some time optimizing as things are clearly snappier and smoother on Lollipop then the KitKat rom it replaced!

I think there will be a lot of happy Tab S owners with the update.

One other note, I have a Nexus 9 as well and its still on 5.0.1. I find it funny my Tab S 10.5 is now on 5.0.2. What's up Google?

Nice!! Good to hear! Waiting for it on my 8.4.
 

Sunburn74

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What I never understood is why it takes so longs for OEM manufacturers to update their systems.

Most android changes are incremental gains and these companies are huge multibillion dollar companies with immense resources. Finally its not like android updates are made in secret (we know about them months in advance). I just don't get it.
 

ChronoReverse

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Touchwiz lollipop had been working well in my GS4 so far. It's only 5.01 but it looks like Samsung had fixed a number of bugs in AOSP including a memory leak that was only fixed in 5.1

Battery life is similar or even better but I don't like all the white screens lol.
 

poofyhairguy

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Even without carrier interference, all stems from the fact that Google wants to enjoy Windows-like popularity cake and eat it too by not offering end user support.

Who wants to offer end user support?! Consumer support is the biggest anchor in IT, it killed the diversity of the PC ecosystem. I am so glad Google can keep blazing on the edge of features for us nerds while Samsung or Verizon is stuck teaching dear old Aunt Ellis how to use email. If Google had to keep everyone supported Android would be half what it is.

Google has OBVIOUSLY treaded lightly on selling goods directly to consumers, and in some cases have discontinued unusually popular items to avoid a support burden (like the Nexus 7).
 

gmaster456

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Google has OBVIOUSLY treaded lightly on selling goods directly to consumers, and in some cases have discontinued unusually popular items to avoid a support burden (like the Nexus 7).
Are you certain they discontinued it because they didn't want to support it?
 
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