Lollipop thread (Android 5.0)

[holden j caufield]

how can I permanently opt out of the ota update I keep getting?

 

[vshah]

how can I permanently opt out of the ota update I keep getting?

why do you not want the update?

if it's to keep root...it's simple enough to unroot, update, and reroot post-update...

i don't know of any way to opt-out on a stock rom.

 

[holden j caufield]

100% stock on nexus 4, 4.4.4 running art runtime, all animations disabled. Getting great connections, now doing wifi calling through hangouts, great battery, stable no issues.

If it's not broken and in this case it's running great, why mess with it.

 

[gmaster456]

100% stock on nexus 4, 4.4.4 running art runtime, all animations disabled. Getting great connections, now doing wifi calling through hangouts, great battery, stable no issues.

If it's not broken and in this case it's running great, why mess with it.

Same boat with my Moto X. I'd rather disable OTA and just get 5.0 when I get a new phone. Got my phone running 110% at the moment and don't really wanna mess with it.

 

[holden j caufield]

I've had it running nearly perfect before and one time accidentally touched the update and it took awhile to get it back to the way I want it now.

 

[dguy6789]

Recently updated to 5.0 on my Nexus 4. I did a factory reset so I don't know how it would perform without one.

That said if you have 5.0 on an N4 and do a factory reset this update is sweet and performs extremely well.

 

[zerocool84]

Recently updated to 5.0 on my Nexus 4. I did a factory reset so I don't know how it would perform.

That said if you have 5.0 on an N4 and do a factory reset this update is sweet and performs extremely well.

Everyone should do a factory reset, it alleviates lots of issues that people are having.

 

[Crow550]

Also if your bootloader is locked and you can factory install 5.0 and it will format your device ( thus a factory reset) to unlock the bootloader and install 5.0. Then just lock the bootloader once done. Follow a step by step guide.

Helped someone update there Nexus 7 2013 since the OTA was taking forever (before finding out all about the kinks in the OS).

I want to update my Nexus 4.... Just debating if I can live without the Xposed stuff for the new features in 5.0 until Xposed catches up to the ART runtime (no ETA. Could take Months).... I think waiting for a 5.1 update for me might be best and to see rooted development evolve a bit too.

 

[sweenish]

Also if your bootloader is locked and you sideload the update it will format your device ( thus a factory reset) to unlock the bootloader and install 5.0. Then just lock the bootloader once done. Follow a step by step guide.

Helped someone update there Nexus 7 2013 since the OTA was taking forever (before finding out all about the kinks in the OS).

I want to update my Nexus 4.... Just debating if I can live without the Xposed stuff for the new features in 5.0 until Xposed catches up to the ART runtime (no ETA. Could take Months).... I think waiting for a 5.1 update for me might be best and to see rooted development evolve a bit too.

Then you did it wrong.

Sideloading the OTA can be done without unlocking the bootloader.

The bootloader must be unlocked to install a factory image, however.

 

[Crow550]

Then you did it wrong.

Sideloading the OTA can be done without unlocking the bootloader.

The bootloader must be unlocked to install a factory image, however.

I was going by the instructions here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

 

[cpacini]

I was going by the instructions here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

You flashed the factory image, which does require unlocking the bootloader and wiping the device. The is a different procedure to side load the OTA update, which doesn't wipe the device.

 

[Crow550]

Oh, thanks. Sorry for the confusion.

I flashed the factory image so it would reset the device to a fresh state to help avoid any issues.

I'll fix my post. Thanks again.

I wouldn't recommend sideloading 5.0. Doing a fresh clean install would be best.

You could sideload and then do a factory reset but it would be easier to just do a factory image install.

 

[accguy9009]

When I have to use flash on Android I use a browser that is called Puffin that I recall. I only use this browser for this purpose (flash and adobe shockwave videos) and use chrome for everything else and thus Puffin has no personal information.

Puffin runs the video on their server and then sends the information to your tablet. Much more stable but slower to load than trying to run flash in a browser such as dolphin.

Puffin is free to try, but after so many times you have to buy the $3.99 version.

I do the same w/Puffin, bought it a while back. Rarely need it anymore but have it available. Just got 5.0 from Verizon for Moto X 2nd gen yesterday. Seems stable, have no issues but have not had time to go thru it in depth.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Nexus 4, still haven't gotten OTA yet. Am I doing something wrong?

 

[dguy6789]

Nexus 4, still haven't gotten OTA yet. Am I doing something wrong?

Not likely, it is still rolling out. A friend of mine just got his update notification a couple minutes ago.

 

[Eug]

Nexus 4, still haven't gotten OTA yet. Am I doing something wrong?

Still waiting here, on a Nexus 7.

It wouldn't be so bad if doing it manually wasn't such a PITA, but it is.

 

[shabby]

You flashed the factory image, which does require unlocking the bootloader and wiping the device. The is a different procedure to side load the OTA update, which doesn't wipe the device.

Flashing a stock image doesn't require unlocking the bootloader.

 

[Crow550]

Well I did a complete backup (moved it to my desktop) and wiped my Nexus 4 and installed Android 5. So far it seems to run just fine. No major issues.

Gonna give it a week or two and then decide to go back to KitKat or not.

I might flash back just to wait for Android 5 to mature a little and to have more rooted apps & tweaks.

Some features of Gravitybox I miss. Mainly the Pie menu wheel as I like having a bit more screen space than having the 3 menu buttons waste space.

Also waiting for Matr1x kernel and so forth.

At least I can still flash an LTE radio and do some tweaks.

However there is a lot I like in Lollipop too.

Just a restart for Android. Some kinks & features need to be worked out.

 

[lopri]

I have been trying to find a compelling reason to upgrade to Lollipop. To be frank, I have not found one. Reviews are hailing the "Biggest Overhaul since Gingerbread," but in every single review I have a hard time finding something truly useful and innovative.

Most changes in Lollipop are simply aesthetic ones. Security feature is underwhelming, and encryption existed in previous releases. So was multi-user support (albeit only on tablets) All Material designs are already deployed in Google apps, and if you are using a custom launcher you won't even see the new UIs outside "Settings."

That leaves two relatively solid features:

1. 64-bit and ART, performance enhancement
2. Project Volta

64-bit only applies to the Nexus 9, and ART can be enabled in Kitkat. I think it is still experimental in Kitkat, so I guess that is something to look forward to. Project Volta is probably the most anticipated feature by me, but initial reports are also underwhelming. But I hope it will improve.

All the reviews I have read heavily focuses on appearance changes and I do not care much for those. What makes it so great about Lollipop?

 

[tsupersonic]

I have been trying to find a compelling reason to upgrade to Lollipop. To be frank, I have not found one. Reviews are hailing the "Biggest Overhaul since Gingerbread," but in every single review I have a hard time finding something truly useful and innovative.

Most changes in Lollipop are simply aesthetic ones. Security feature is underwhelming, and encryption existed in previous releases. So was multi-user support (albeit only on tablets) All Material designs are already deployed in Google apps, and if you are using a custom launcher you won't even see the new UIs outside "Settings."

That leaves two relatively solid features:

1. 64-bit and ART, performance enhancement
2. Project Volta

64-bit only applies to the Nexus 9, and ART can be enabled in Kitkat. I think it is still experimental in Kitkat, so I guess that is something to look forward to. Project Volta is probably the most anticipated feature by me, but initial reports are also underwhelming. But I hope it will improve.

All the reviews I have read heavily focuses on appearance changes and I do not care much for those. What makes it so great about Lollipop?

What device(s) do you have? I'm not a huge fan of material design - it's too bright and everything is too big. I love the holo design language far more. Another thing I hate are the new animations - I tend to either turn them off or set them to 0.5x speed. Having said that, Lollipop has brought a significant improvement in the battery life department for my Nexus 5. The performance improvements (while small) are noticeable.

 

[Crow550]

So far it's been really smooth and I'm still running pure stock & unrooted for now. Gonna see how well the battery life & performance is before I start tweaking things. Haven't ran into any major glitches yet....

The battery life was crap at first but after doing a complete drain and charge it's been much better.

 

[ChronoReverse]

For once I'm actually curious to see the Touchwiz rendition of Android. Samsung has a vested interest in optimizing for AMOLEDs and I'd like to see Lollipop without blinding white cards all the time even if the metaphor itself isn't a bad one.

 

[poofyhairguy]

For once I'm actually curious to see the Touchwiz rendition of Android. Samsung has a vested interest in optimizing for AMOLEDs and I'd like to see Lollipop without blinding white cards all the time even if the metaphor itself isn't a bad one.

If the Note 4 is any indication you won't get your wish. Touchwiz is surprisingly light for a company that almost only makes AMOLEDS.

 

[Demo24]

After factory resetting my original nexus 7, things are much better now. However, to be fair its also needed one for a long time i just hate setting things back up. Still, I am really noticing the lack of memory, especially since chrome seems to use a lot.

Once using it, its not quite as dramatic of a change as I was expecting, but seems good overall. Keyboard is definitely faster about everything now, and also seems to do a much better job of adjusting itself for number only fields. Even before the reset I noticed a significant improvement in keyboard responsiveness, something 4.x versions could lack when slowing down. I do wish the letters had at least a faint outline to differentiate them.

 

[Brainonska511]

Recently updated to 5.0 on my Nexus 4. I did a factory reset so I don't know how it would perform without one.

That said if you have 5.0 on an N4 and do a factory reset this update is sweet and performs extremely well.

I got the OTA upgrade on my Nexus 4 and I never bothered with a factory reset; Lollipop has been working perfectly for me. Some of the new features are a little weird and take some time to adjust, but overall, I like the update.