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fstime

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2004
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Its probalby not the game but the card.

Sounds like a bad overclock.

maybe the card is overheating.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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I agree with the video card being the problem. I'd check to be sure your NV Silencer 5 is making proper contact with the GPU core since it appears to be happening at the desktop too.

Also, 400/1100 is NOT the stock speed for a 6800GTOC... the stock speed is 370/1000... put it back to that and I bet your problem is gone... unless you messed up the installation of the NV Silencer and the GPU is still over heating. Have you checked temperatures in the driver settings?
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Well I dunno, I rthdribl'd for about 20 minutes and I got up to about 71~, which is unusually high for my card. Maybe cuz I removed the fan over it...but I don't know. 71 degrees still isn't hot enough to lead to glitches though is it?
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I agree with the video card being the problem. I'd check to be sure your NV Silencer 5 is making proper contact with the GPU core since it appears to be happening at the desktop too.

Also, 400/1100 is NOT the stock speed for a 6800GTOC... the stock speed is 370/1000... put it back to that and I bet your problem is gone... unless you messed up the installation of the NV Silencer and the GPU is still over heating. Have you checked temperatures in the driver settings?

Jeff, I know!! If you read into the rest of the posts I said that I'm running 370/1000, which is stock for my video card.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I agree with the video card being the problem. I'd check to be sure your NV Silencer 5 is making proper contact with the GPU core since it appears to be happening at the desktop too.

Also, 400/1100 is NOT the stock speed for a 6800GTOC... the stock speed is 370/1000... put it back to that and I bet your problem is gone... unless you messed up the installation of the NV Silencer and the GPU is still over heating. Have you checked temperatures in the driver settings?

Jeff, I know!! If you read into the rest of the posts I said that I'm running 370/1000, which is stock for my video card.

Ok, still looks like a heat issue... take the heatsink off and see if there's a good contact pattern on the heatsink from the GPU core.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I agree with the video card being the problem. I'd check to be sure your NV Silencer 5 is making proper contact with the GPU core since it appears to be happening at the desktop too.

Also, 400/1100 is NOT the stock speed for a 6800GTOC... the stock speed is 370/1000... put it back to that and I bet your problem is gone... unless you messed up the installation of the NV Silencer and the GPU is still over heating. Have you checked temperatures in the driver settings?

Jeff, I know!! If you read into the rest of the posts I said that I'm running 370/1000, which is stock for my video card.

Ok, still looks like a heat issue... take the heatsink off and see if there's a good contact pattern on the heatsink from the GPU core.

C'mon Jeff let's read! Look at three posts before this one, I stated that I ran rthdribl for 20 minutes without going over 72 degrees. I know that's a little high but not enough to cause artifacts or glitches...
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I agree with the video card being the problem. I'd check to be sure your NV Silencer 5 is making proper contact with the GPU core since it appears to be happening at the desktop too.

Also, 400/1100 is NOT the stock speed for a 6800GTOC... the stock speed is 370/1000... put it back to that and I bet your problem is gone... unless you messed up the installation of the NV Silencer and the GPU is still over heating. Have you checked temperatures in the driver settings?

Jeff, I know!! If you read into the rest of the posts I said that I'm running 370/1000, which is stock for my video card.

Ok, still looks like a heat issue... take the heatsink off and see if there's a good contact pattern on the heatsink from the GPU core.

C'mon Jeff let's read! Look at three posts before this one, I stated that I ran rthdribl for 20 minutes without going over 72 degrees. I know that's a little high but not enough to cause artifacts or glitches...

Enjoy your artifacts then, dick.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Aww c'mon Jeff I don't mean to be an asshole but it's frustrating when I'm trying to solve a problem I'm not used to having, while having to repeat myself over and over.

Anyway for the rest of your guys I turned my AGP down to 4x and it helped, no more bungees and no more specks on the desktop. I also ran the CS:S video stress test and it didn't seem to take any hit on my performance, maxed settings on 12 x 10 with full AA and AF I still average 92.4 fps. I don't know what the difference is between AGP 4x and 8x (although I know 8x should be faster). Also, what does this mean? Does it say something about my video card? My motherboard?
 

VIAN

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2003
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I've read the entire thread.


Sounds like your GPU is overheating. BFG doesn't equip Nv5's to their GPUs, so just make sure that you are making good contact with the GPU. If the stock heatsink also covered the memory chips, put some ramsinks on them.
 

JBT

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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While it does sound like a GPU issue. I would go to Steam support and search for "validate GCF files" Click on the CSS verifier and see if you've got anything wrong with your CSS files.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Ok, I just set my AGP back to 4x8x, and it works fine. I mean, wtf? I hate my computer!

Oh well, now at least I know it's working. I want to know what the cause was though...

Oh and JBT I updated my GCF cache files for CS:S, I don't know if it did anything or not but it works now.
 

JBT

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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Yeah I don't think it ever tells you if something is screwed up. It *MIGHT* say its downloading something at some point but if its just a small file then it probably would happen before you even noticed or even during steam sign on.
 

DuceGT

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May 1, 2005
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i've got a 6800NU and have seen the same abnormalities. if your temps are okay, it may be that the card isnt gettin enough power...when OCing, the 6800s can drain a psu
 

xtknight

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Oct 15, 2004
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hmmmm...doesn't sound like your GPU is doing too good. there's no doubt this is an artifact problem if it occurs on the desktop too. You were the one that posted the other day how you only got 40FPS vs. 100FPS, right? time for RMA? how long as your PC been on since the last POWER OFF for a few hours (not reboot)? try shutting it off for 10 hours. my friend's 9800xt had artifacts at 90 degrees C because his PC was on for 30 days straight...a 10 hour power-off solved everything and he's had no problems since. maybe it just needs a rest.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Originally posted by: xtknight
hmmmm...doesn't sound like your GPU is doing too good. there's no doubt this is an artifact problem if it occurs on the desktop too. You were the one that posted the other day how you only got 40FPS vs. 100FPS, right? time for RMA? how long as your PC been on since the last POWER OFF for a few hours (not reboot)? try shutting it off for 10 hours. my friend's 9800xt had artifacts at 90 degrees C because his PC was on for 30 days straight...a 10 hour power-off solved everything and he's had no problems since. maybe it just needs a rest.

I do turn off my computer every night, and I still don't think it's a temperature problem (every time I check it idles at about 55 - 56 degrees). Yes I was the one that posted that I had FPS problems but I don't get those anymore (reseting CMOS seemed to have fixed something). And I don't know if I could still RMA my video card back to BFG, I switched the cooler (but I still have the old one). Oh well, it works fine now, and as long as it works don't fix it.
 

Noid

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Sep 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Yes it does this every time I play. Since CS patches itself, there really aren't any patches I can download to fix it.

Here's another screenshot for good times:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Mrvile/de_dust20004.jpg

That's a memory tear.

If your not overclocking, then your case temp is way to high.
(or the card is defective)

The little dots or squares are GPU overheating or voltage / FSB to high.
 

imported_Pressure

Senior member
Jun 9, 2005
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I registered just because of this thread lol.

My video card was having the same exact issues. I had a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb 256bit card and I was getting the same exact glitch while playing games. The two games I played the most were Counter-Strike: Source and World of Warcraft and it was really bad. It was nearly impossible to see.

Anyways, I e-mailed the place where I bought my computer from and sent the screens to them and they said it was a graphics card issue. So I had to ship out my graphics card and they're going to "repair" it.

The card wasn't overclocked or anything so I don't think it would have been a heat issue. I had played CS:S and WoW for months and have never had anything like that happen. I had plenty of airflow through my case and it was generally cool.

I have a couple of screenshots but my computer is rendered useless with no way to output video so I can't really show them. They're the same as what you posted but worse as in there's more of those things on the screen. Sometimes one single error thingy would take up 75% of the screen. They flash up really fast so it makes it hard to see at times. I never had the desktop issue though.

Since the company I bought the card from doesn't carry that card anymore they said they'll give me an X800 if they can't repair. That's a good thing but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to fix it.

I asked around for a long time about it but no one had ever seen anything like that before so that's why I sent it off Monday this week. I stumbled across this thread and I see you fixed it by lowering the AGP then raising it again. I wish I would have tried that before sending it off but it's too late now. I just gotta be without my computer for a few weeks. I hope I just get it back before BF2 comes out lol.

I plan on making a new computer in a couple months anyway. I'm just waiting on either the G70s or R520s to come out. That's why it didn't really matter much to me but I wanted to sell my computer and I wasn't going to sell something that wasn't working.

I'll let you know if they manage to "repair" the card and if it actually works. If I get it back and it still is having issues they either didn't fix it or it's not the graphics card. If they send me a new card and it's still happening then it's probably something else. I should have the card back by the end of next week or the week after. I'll post back whenever I get it to let you guys know what's happening with it.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
Oct 16, 2004
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Haha, welcome to the forums Pressure!

I know a lot of people get this glitch, and most of these people don't OC their video cards. But there's so many subtle things that can lead to this problem, it's very difficult to fix (as you can see in my case). I wish the best of luck to you and your video card, and if I were you I'd be praying that they can't fix it (for the X800 ). And if you don't want it, you can always send it to me

 
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