Long Distance Wired Networking...

[hellod9]

So, I might move into an amazing new house soon. But there's a major snag: It doesn't have access to high speed internet. No cable. The cable company has service next door, about 500-1000 feet away, but they want one hundred grand to extend it to our house. Not cool.

We've thought about asking our neighbor if we could use their internet, and somehow string a long wire through the woods between our houses. I have no idea about the type of technology we would need in order to do this, or even if it would be possible.

Any suggestions about what I need to do in order to start my research into this? I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

 

[jaqie]

100mbps fibre.

 

[nephilim2k]

Satellite set up with line of site...would probably be your cheapest option. Unless you know how to terminate fibre, then OM1 Fibre is probably the best bet, otherwise satellite, and split the costs, just ensure you have a contract with them.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Wireless would be your best bet. If you have line of site, a 5GHz point-to-point wireless bridge is cheap and easy to set up. If you have obstructions such as trees, 900MHz bridges are available, although you won't have as much bandwidth.

As far as wired options go, mutlimode fiber cabling is cheap and can cover your distance limits, although the optics can get expensive. However, unless you or your neighbor own the property that the fiber would be traversing, you may not have the legal right to lay fiber.

Satellite...

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[nephilim2k]

Satellite dishes (creating a wireless bridge) with Line of site means exactly what I think it means

 

[JoeMcJoe]

http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber

 

[mammador]

- 4G dongle (if ISPs have good coverage in your area)
- Satellite Internet
- Install fibre cable to your neighbour

Options 1 and 2 may be the cheapest. The fibre may not be that expensive in itself, but installation and maintenance costs will be high.

 

[JoeMcJoe]

But 100k to run your home? That is pretty high, as the cable co wants 250k to run it to my house about 10 miles.

 

[Cabletek]

So, I might move into an amazing new house soon. But there's a major snag: It doesn't have access to high speed internet. No cable. The cable company has service next door, about 500-1000 feet away, but they want one hundred grand to extend it to our house. Not cool.

We've thought about asking our neighbor if we could use their internet, and somehow string a long wire through the woods between our houses. I have no idea about the type of technology we would need in order to do this, or even if it would be possible.

Any suggestions about what I need to do in order to start my research into this? I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

300ish feet is the limit on catX cable, fiber would cost more than paying the cable company to do a plant extension so you go that way if you want but. But note, this limit is between active devices a $10 wires switch and you can go 300ish more feet.

I am unfamiliar with moca, but it may be possible with some half inch coax and a contractor that knows how to put baffs on it. Still expensive IMHO.

I am thinking I'd go with, go to the library to use the internet kids, but that's just me.

The phone company surely has service to the house and so they do provide DSL have you talked with them about what they can do? Probably depends on whether its one moving to FTTN design or not, but if they are they should be able to make it.

Also the cable comapny will do plant extensions for absorbent amounts of money call and get an estimate and consider upping the house loan is the best advise one can give for your situation.

I assume no 4G wireless?

Look into T1 costs too maybe?

 

[drebo]

I'd look in to a wireless bridge.

Short of that, get some gel-filled CAT5e and run it the distance and then use some VDSL Ethernet Extenders and slap them on each end: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833114042

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Depends on how much you want to spend. You could trench and either do direct burial fiber or fiber in conduit but at is a good deal of work and a little expensive for materials.

~$500 for a 1000ft fiber cable

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-1000ft-.../dp/B0000C8Y58

$366 if you terminate

http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detai...able-PVC-Zipcord-Duplex-1000-ft/EXN0625AĂ1000

This doesnt take into account a fiber switch in both sides

http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-ProSaf...s=fiber+switch

And the SFP modules

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-C...ords=fiber+sfp

 

[Mixolydian]

one hundred grand to extend it to our house.

WHAT?! D: That's frickin' insane.

 

[drebo]

Depends on how much you want to spend. You could trench and either do direct burial fiber or fiber in conduit but at is a good deal of work and a little expensive for materials.

~$500 for a 1000ft fiber cable

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-1000ft-.../dp/B0000C8Y58

$366 if you terminate

http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detai...able-PVC-Zipcord-Duplex-1000-ft/EXN0625AĂ1000

This doesnt take into account a fiber switch in both sides

http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-ProSaf...s=fiber+switch

And the SFP modules

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-C...ords=fiber+sfp

That's why I suggested Ethernet Extenders.

Much, much cheaper.

 

[jaqie]

used 100baseFX is way friggen cheaper. its why I specifically suggested 100Mbps fiber.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

That's why I suggested Ethernet Extenders.

Much, much cheaper.

Is lightning not a concern with this? Or is the conduit sufficient?

 

[Mark R]

used 100baseFX is way friggen cheaper. its why I specifically suggested 100Mbps fiber.

Honestly, even used gigabit fiber gear can be cheap. Used 10 km Gig SFP optics periodically turn-up on ebay for $2-3, and brand-new gig-E to SFP converters can be had for $25. They just plug into a regular gig switch. (The problem with the cheap gig ethernet- fiber converters is that they ONLY work at gig speeds - if you plug into a 100 mbps switch/router, they won't link up)

I ran exactly this type of setup at home for s***s and giggles for a couple of years, just because I wanted to play with fiber.

 

[drebo]

Is lightning not a concern with this? Or is the conduit sufficient?

Well, you can bury a conduit or you can use some shielded direct burial cable. Either way.

Lightning is always a concern and will always generally blow out whatever it's connected to.