Longest run of hdmi without issues?

de8212

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Just curious if anyone here has run a long hdmi cable (~40 - 50 ft.)? I need about that much and would like to keep the cost down if possible. I really don't want to have to buy an in line amplifier for hdmi.

I know it's two different technologies but I have run a 50 ft. s-video cable without problems.


I have seen some 50 ft. hdmi's at monoprice for $60 - $90. I know their shorter cables have worked out fine for me.

 

Maiora

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Monster has one that goes a football field with a monster price at $10,000 for the first down.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Maiora
Monster has one that goes a football field with a monster price at $10,000 for the first down.

so, 10 yards?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Maiora
Monster has one that goes a football field with a monster price at $10,000 for the first down.

While funny you can't break the laws of physics. There is nothing special about a digital cable, so long as it adheres to the electrical properties the transmitter and receiver expect. But then again those properties do make it special.

HDMI was not made or engineered for long distances. And LOL at 10 yards.
 

Rio Rebel

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I have been using a 35 foot HDMI cable from Monoprice for the last year and a half, and never had an issue.
 

de8212

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Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
I have been using a 35 foot HDMI cable from Monoprice for the last year and a half, and never had an issue.

I see a few different ones. DO you happen to still have a part #, etc?


 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: de8212
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I'm only using it for 720p, but I have this one
http://www.monoprice.com/produ...2&seq=1&format=2&style

Thanks for the link. You mean you don't have a 1080 tv I'm guessing, right? I want to make sure whatever I get will run 1080i/p.

I'm running to a 720p projector, so the highest I've sent to it is 1280x720. Based on the reviews listed for the product, it will do 1080p just fine, but I have not tried it myself.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: de8212
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I'm only using it for 720p, but I have this one
http://www.monoprice.com/produ...2&seq=1&format=2&style

Thanks for the link. You mean you don't have a 1080 tv I'm guessing, right? I want to make sure whatever I get will run 1080i/p.

I'm running to a 720p projector, so the highest I've sent to it is 1280x720. Based on the reviews listed for the product, it will do 1080p just fine, but I have not tried it myself.

Have same cable, 1080p is fine.
 

vshah

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i bought some from bluejeans, forget what gauge it was though. 2 separate installations of 50ft, one 720p, one 1080p. no issues at all.
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

I'm running to a 720p projector, so the highest I've sent to it is 1280x720. Based on the reviews listed for the product, it will do 1080p just fine, but I have not tried it myself.
Depends on what you mean by "1080p". Note that 1080p24 (which is how most Blu-ray is encoded) is actually lower bandwidth than broadcast 1080i. The big problem is 1080p60, which is the double the bandwidth.

So...

For 25 feet:

Monoprice 26 AWG (Chinese made tin-plated in-wall rated cable): With my system 720p, 1080p24, and 1080i were fine. 1080p60 was problematic with certain equipment, but not all equipment. For example, with my (firmware updated) Panasonic PT-AX200U and Sony BDP-S350, 1080p60 menus worked fine. However, with my Toshiba LCD and Insignia NS-BRDVD, 1080p60 menus would sometimes give me white flashes (but 1080p24 movies played perfectly fine).

Blue Jeans Series 2 - 24 AWG (Chinese made silver-plated cable): Works fine in my system including for 1080p60 menus. I don't have any 1080p60 discs to test though.

Other people have had good results with Monoprice 24 AWG tin-plated in-wall rated cable, but I've never tested that.

Given my personal results and from stuff around the net, my general rule of thumb for 1080p60 video (24-bit colour depth) is:

10 feet - 28 AWG
15 feet - 26 AWG
25 feet - 24 AWG
50 feet - 22 AWG

Other people have had good results even at 1080p60 with smaller gauge cables for those distances, but I'd prefer to err on the conservative side, especially since some equipment combinations are more problematic than others. Also, it does depend on the quality of the cable itself too, as some 24 AWG cables are better built than others, which is partially why many people have good results with 24 AWG even at 50 feet.

I originally bought Monoprice 26 AWG cable mainly because of its bendability. However, I was pleasantly surprised to see that the Blue Jeans Series 2 - 24 AWG is still relatively bendable, and its diameter is still less than 1 cm (as it has no net jacket). This is important because the Wiremold 1" wire conduits they sell at Home Depot have an internal thickness of about 1 cm, so the 0.95 cm Blue Jeans Series 2 (24 AWG) cables fit perfectly. You can put 2 of them side by side in a 1" Wiremold conduit.

I think for most people 24 AWG is reasonable to work with in terms of ease of installation. 22 AWG is considerably stiffer however. Those cables are 1.2 cm (or almost half an inch) thick.
 
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