Looking at a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT

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mple

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Local dealer is offering the Elantra GT in the color and trim I want with the style package for $18500 (after all applicable rebates) plus tax and tags. MSRP is around $23000. Similarly optioned Corolla and Civic don't come under $20,000 and 2014 Mazda3 is still selling above MSRP due to limited availability. Anything else out there I should consider?
 

Vetterin

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I imagine that the Corolla would be the S model but I find it hard to believe you can't get it for under $20,000. Were you pricing a 2013 model? I agree that the Mazda3 is my car of choice but it will take quite some time before the prices start dropping. I hear the Focus has been getting some good discounts but I'm still on the fence about it.
Sounds like you got a really good price on the Elantra though.
 

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Not sure what current rebates are on Focus, but I got nearly $5,000 off mine at the end of June.

I got a 5spd SE hatch with the following:
Leather/appearance pack
Winter pack
Black machined wheels
Upgraded Ruby red metallic paint

MSRP was around $24,500. I paid just under 19k +TTL.

I'd hang around a bit to see when the new Kia Forte 5 door is supposed to hit. That looks like a great bargain and slightly better option packages than the Elantra.
 

Dr. Detroit

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Focus is the sportier of the choices as the Elantra GT still uses a crushed tube torsion beam rear suspension and Focus has 160HP compared to 148HP for the Elantra.

Focus is slightly smaller in the back seat.

33K miles on my 2012 Focus Titanium. Averaging almost 33mpg.

may want to test out the new 2014 Mazda 3 & Focus.
 

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I think the Civic is the better car for more money. While I might get called to the mat on that one I just don't like Hyundai quality after owning a few of them over the years.

Colleagues at work have both cars and the Civic is the one I would buy if I had to choose and I could afford it. Of course price is always an issue. But so is value. Hyundai resale up here in Canada is pretty crappy still. Not sure about SoCal. That should be factored into your calculation if there is even a chance you will trade the car within a few years.

Regardless I just like the way the Civic drives, handles, accelerates better than the Hyundai.
 

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I will probably get flak for this, but we ended up purchasing a Corolla Eco Plus. Just to note, the car is for my mother. She's 55 years old and Asian so A/T is a must and brands outside of Toyota and Honda are a hard sell for her. While I really liked the styling on the Elantra GT and the elegant interior (with Style package) some things about it that bothered me during test drive were the blind spots (huge A pillars), higher road noise (compared to Corolla), and underwhelming electrical system. Voice recognition system in the GT was terrible. I've only spent 30 minutes fiddling with the Corollas electronics, but so far it's feels much better designed than the GT. The large touch screen and back up camera are a nice touch as well.

The biggest reason for jumping ship to Corolla was the MPG ratings. The Eco model is advertised to get 30/40 MPG, while the GT gets 27/37. 29-30 mixed. A handful stated they averaged above 37MPG though.

As for dealership experience, the Hyundai people were very pleasant and straight forward. Almost felt bad for not being able to close a deal with them. Toyota dealership wasn't a nightmare, but close enough. This was my very first time buying a car and I prepped by reading for hours about how to avoid pitfalls, etc. The recent reddit thread was incredibly useful, but in the end I definitely was not prepared enough to get the price I wanted.

The sticker price was $20,830. I offered $21,000 OTD (8% sales tax in CA). After a lot of back and forth with the sales guy and manager, they countered with $21,150 if I financed through them. They ran the numbers and came back with 1.9% APR for 60 months. They were consistent in getting my signature to seal the deal while beating around the bush with the terms of the loan. I asked them to completely lay it out for me on paper and it turns out the interest is front loaded if I finance through them. I told them no thanks, I'll finance with my credit union instead. Sales guy turns around and says "No can do, this price is only good if you finance through us." At that point, I got up and headed for the door. I wasn't bluffing since I was ready to head back over to Hyundai. Sales manager stops me in my tracks of course. He sits me down and disappears for another 20 minutes before coming back with an offer of $21300, and I can pay however I want. I caved. I feel I could have done much better than $21300 by being assertive, and in hindsight I should have pushed for more freebies.

I didn't make it known to the dealer, but the truth was we absolutely needed a car by Monday, and the one we negotiated on happened to be the exact color, trim and interior color my mom wanted so there was some emotional attachment. It was also one of two available in that configuration within a 25 mile radius, with the other one being at a dealer with a lower reputation.

It would have been nice to be able to wait until late November or the year end for a better deal, but it was a good learning experience nonetheless, and mom is very excited to show off her new appliance to her coworkers tomorrow.
 

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I will probably get flak for this, but we ended up purchasing a Corolla Eco Plus. Just to note, the car is for my mother. She's 55 years old and Asian so A/T is a must and brands outside of Toyota and Honda are a hard sell for her.

What is important is that you met your goals. You got your mom a car. And you got it in the time period that she needed it.

Everyone here has their own opinion. But the reality is that if your mom is happy, then you have done well.

In five years, you likely won't remember what you paid for the car but you will, for sure, remember whether or not your mom was happy.

Congratulations on the new car!

Uno
 

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Sounds like you did a really good job here and you can't say the Corolla isn't a great car for your mom. It should be pretty bulletproof for a long while.
 

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Sounds like you did a really good job here and you can't say the Corolla isn't a great car for your mom. It should be pretty bulletproof for a long while.

Yep. If Mom is happy that's the only person that matters. Nothing wrong with a Corolla. It's an economic, reliable and high resale car.
 

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Corolla's are great little cars. You made a smart choice. Your Mom will be happy.
 

deadken

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A buddy / co-worker has a Hyundai Elantra GT. He likes it so much that his daughter bought the same car (but with a manual transmission) after he raved about it. She had been looking at the new Dodge Dart. A few months later, in February, he leased a White Turbo Veloster for his Girlfriend.

I got to drive the Veloster on the way back from Carlisle, PA (a big car event for guys in the NE). It was comfortable, handled well, had a great sound system, etc... I don't know about how it will hold up over time (I tend to buy old cars and keep them for a long time), but for a lease it seemed very nice.

Congrats on the Corolla! It's a very respectable car and most likely 'perfect' for the way you described you Mom! I wouldn't have the long term worries in a Toyota that I would have in a Hyundai.
 

mple

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It's been 2 days and she's put 20 miles on it. She's very happy with it; however, this evening we discovered a blemish on the back bumper. When we first examined the car, I only spent about 2 minutes going over the exterior of the car. I won't dismiss the possibility that I missed the blemish on my first check though. I don't think it's likely the blemish occurred during our 20 miles of ownership since my mom took it for a joy ride on newly paved roads and garaged it after.

After we agreed to the purchase price and processed the paperwork with the F&I person, the sales guy disappeared for about 45 minutes to get the car washed and put gas in it. It was 8:30pm by the time we saw him again and we were tired. I didn't check over the car since it was dark and I was tired --my mistake--. Just wondering if anyone has been in this position before and what you recommend I should do? I'm not at all knowledgeable in touch up paint, but my mom thinks the dealership knew about this beforehand and tried to hide it from us with a second rate touch up job.

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MagickMan

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For mom, simple is good. I got mine a Volvo XC70, no way I'd drive it, but it sits high enough for her to see well and has a soft, squishy suspension with lounger-like seats and tons of room. She loves it.


See if you can get their detail shop to buff out that blemish, they probably will.
 

CraigRT

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It's been 2 days and she's put 20 miles on it. She's very happy with it; however, this evening we discovered a blemish on the back bumper. When we first examined the car, I only spent about 2 minutes going over the exterior of the car. I won't dismiss the possibility that I missed the blemish on my first check though. I don't think it's likely the blemish occurred during our 20 miles of ownership since my mom took it for a joy ride on newly paved roads and garaged it after.

After we agreed to the purchase price and processed the paperwork with the F&I person, the sales guy disappeared for about 45 minutes to get the car washed and put gas in it. It was 8:30pm by the time we saw him again and we were tired. I didn't check over the car since it was dark and I was tired --my mistake--. Just wondering if anyone has been in this position before and what you recommend I should do? I'm not at all knowledgeable in touch up paint, but my mom thinks the dealership knew about this beforehand and tried to hide it from us with a second rate touch up job.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jrnZAfEqPUs/UlJTjLze8BI/AAAAAAAAAcE/3TrFJekJr4E/s535/DSC_0114.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-46HB48kexeU/UlJTkpDyEKI/AAAAAAAAAcM/9_DOE4ecS9Q/s720/Untitled.png
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hJRqRxFPxQ0/UlJWVTrhSNI/AAAAAAAAAcY/XGvrteJgykg/s720/DSC_0116.JPG

It's only been a couple days, take the car back and ask to have it fixed.
My dealership told me if I found anything within the first week or so, to not hesitate to come back. I can't imagine 2-3 days is a problem here.

Good luck.
 
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