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Lifer
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yeah those Saturns dont die. Prob a better deal than a used Civic.
 

sze5003

Lifer
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Oh well I'm not going to worry too much. She tells me she spoke to my dad and that he's going to chip in. So he's looking at cars at around 11k. I'll find what I can, let her and my mom know and go from there. No one will listen to me anyway.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Oh well I'm not going to worry too much. She tells me she spoke to my dad and that he's going to chip in. So he's looking at cars at around 11k. I'll find what I can, let her and my mom know and go from there. No one will listen to me anyway.

Sorry to hear. I would stop being involved. Tell your sister that you love her but, getting a silver spoon stuck in your teeth isn't a pretty look.
 

sze5003

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I'll take them to see the cars thats about all. If my dad is going to pitch in money for her then he should be able to get one of his auction friends to find something. I told her to just wait in that case.
 

TridenT

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Don't cheaper cars usually have over 100k in miles? I grew up in a family with only used and older cars with high mileage. Every month was spent on some type of maintenance or issue. I want something that will last her through college.

I bought my 2000 Honda Civic EX with ~116,000 miles. It has lasted me for over 4 years. I still use it and I have driven it quite hard. It has had only one issue which was the catalytic converter needed to be replaced. Outside of that, it has been all maintenance.

And maintenance items every month? Unless you drive 2k+ a month then you won't hit a maintenance item every month on any typical car. (And what you'd be hitting the most is an oil change since those are done every 3k-10k (depends on the car and oil) ) Also, tell your sister to learn how to use some tools to work on her own car. Plenty of videos online... and it will save you thousands.
 

sze5003

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I bought my 2000 Honda Civic EX with ~116,000 miles. It has lasted me for over 4 years. I still use it and I have driven it quite hard. It has had only one issue which was the catalytic converter needed to be replaced. Outside of that, it has been all maintenance.

And maintenance items every month? Unless you drive 2k+ a month then you won't hit a maintenance item every month on any typical car. (And what you'd be hitting the most is an oil change since those are done every 3k-10k (depends on the car and oil) ) Also, tell your sister to learn how to use some tools to work on her own car. Plenty of videos online... and it will save you thousands.

Personally myself I drive a little over 1k miles a month. But I keep an eye on things I need and do synthetic oil changes as instructed every 6k miles.

A week ago I had a check engine light. I found out it was a stupid o2 sensor that costs about $400 bucks for the part itself. I was about to order it from rock auto for $160 when the next day the light went away. Either way I would have had to take it in to get that done. But it was just an odd error I hope.
 

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Personally myself I drive a little over 1k miles a month. But I keep an eye on things I need and do synthetic oil changes as instructed every 6k miles.

A week ago I had a check engine light. I found out it was a stupid o2 sensor that costs about $400 bucks for the part itself. I was about to order it from rock auto for $160 when the next day the light went away. Either way I would have had to take it in to get that done. But it was just an odd error I hope.

You do not have to take your car in for an O2 sensor. I don't know a car that requires that you take it in to get it done. You could've bought a jack, the proper socket and socket wrench, and crawled under there to do it yourself. It could have even cost less than to get it replaced by the shop and you'd have yourself some tools. (Short of you buying Mac tools or Snap-on...)
 

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You do not have to take your car in for an O2 sensor. I don't know a car that requires that you take it in to get it done. You could've bought a jack, the proper socket and socket wrench, and crawled under there to do it yourself. It could have even cost less than to get it replaced by the shop and you'd have yourself some tools. (Short of you buying Mac tools or Snap-on...)

Pa adopted the California emissions policy and my car is a pzev model which means zero emissions so I would not pass inspection next year. But I didn't have to do anything since it went away.
 

Yuriman

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Pa adopted the California emissions policy and my car is a pzev model which means zero emissions so I would not pass inspection next year. But I didn't have to do anything since it went away.

Are we talking about a Lancer? Pretty sure your O2 sensor is just threaded into the pipe. Unplug it, unscrew it, put a bit of goop on the new one to make sure it seals nicely, screw it in, plug it in where the old one was plugged in. Mine took a 6ft breaker bar, but it was 21 years old.

I don't live in a state that has emissions standards, but I'm not sure how that's relevant.
 

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Are we talking about a Lancer? Pretty sure your O2 sensor is just threaded into the pipe. Unplug it, unscrew it, put a bit of goop on the new one to make sure it seals nicely, screw it in, plug it in where the old one was plugged in.

I don't live in a state that has emissions standards, but I'm not sure how that's relevant.

Yea, Well they will fail you if your check engine light comes on when they inspect it. The hard part would be having to rip the carpet out and take the seat out to plug the new wire in. Glad the light went away because I still need a crown for a root canceled tooth lol..trying to spend as little as I can. Another mechanic just told me you don't have to fix it just unplug the battery terminal and see if it goes away haha.

Luckily I waited before buying a new one and it just went away. I ended up ordering a Bluetooth obd dongle that you can use to read codes off the car with your smart phone. Comes in very handy.
 

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Lifer
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Yea, Well they will fail you if your check engine light comes on when they inspect it. The hard part would be having to rip the carpet out and take the seat out to plug the new wire in. Glad the light went away because I still need a crown for a root canceled tooth lol..trying to spend as little as I can. Another mechanic just told me you don't have to fix it just unplug the battery terminal and see if it goes away haha.

Luckily I waited before buying a new one and it just went away. I ended up ordering a Bluetooth obd dongle that you can use to read codes off the car with your smart phone. Comes in very handy.

I don't think you have to "rip" the carpet out. A lot of carpets just have creases or folds there for you to pull it back to then swap the sensor. That's how my car works and a lot of others do...

And, unless your car is special, that mechanic is incorrect. If it doesn't get a proper reading, it will trigger an alert on your dash. It could be that you have a loose connection and that's why it's an intermittent problem.

Btw, a lot of states will fail you if you have a check engine light on. That's routine for quite a few states. (Including Washington, where I live) PZEV doesn't mean zero emissions btw. It means partial zero emissions. (Partial meaning actually not even remotely zero)
 

sze5003

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Yeah you are probably right, the wire traces to the passenger front seat. Going to need to check that when I get a chance. With the amount of snow and destroyed roads we had this winter I'm sure something got loose under there.

I took a break from looking for cars tonite. The guy with the Honda my mother wanted to see didn't email me back. Maybe I was to formal in my email and that could have scared him off as the usual craigslist replies are incorrectly formatted run on sentences.

Since my dad may help her by pitching in he will probably find her a car, he found a good one for my mom when they split up..used, good mileage and decent price at the time. He has better luck from across the country than I do it seems.
 

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Well looks like my mother and father put more money together and she will be getting a 2010 altima coupe. It's got 60k miles on it and looks good. I checked it out, drove it and it's solid.

The owner was really nice and even gave me his bank statement. He owes about 12k on the car. We agreed to 11,500 and I guess we need to meet up at the bank soon. We pay the bank the 11.5 and buyer will pay whatever is left.

We also saw a 2011 vw cc with 54k miles and were about to buy it but a miscommunication happened between the buyer and my father on the phone. Apparently my father offered 13k for the car that the guy had listed for 14,500. It needed new tires, a new tpms sensor in one of the tires, and also missing a secondary key.

Father gets on the phone with me and tells me the guy will take 13k. I'm messing around in the car and tell the seller if he can't find the second fob key then take $300 off the price, I'll give it back to him if he mails me the key. He agrees and I count out 12,700 in cash. Go to hand it to him and he goes no 14.5 minus 300 is 14,200.

I then tell him you just talked to her father and agreed to 13k. He says no he must have not heard him he thought my father said 15 not 13. Why would anyone offer more than the listed 14,500 price is beyond my understanding. After getting on the phone again and having the father spell out the price the seller refused and was like sorry I misunderstood.

Both father and seller have accents so I guess yea it was miscommunication. What an eventful annoying day. I'm putting in 1k to help out with the payment too.
 

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Lifer
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I can't believe the guy with the CC turned it down. Last time I checked CCs aren't much in demand..
 

sze5003

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I can't believe the guy with the CC turned it down. Last time I checked CCs aren't much in demand..

Yea they aren't big in demand here either. There is only one vw dealer near me and they don't get many sales.

The car looked alright, had scratches here and there, pearl white. Leather needed cleaned and the rearview mirror was messed up, it was held on by two screws. The front driver side tire was cracking too.

He needed to sell it quick because he bought an audi s4. The car was way better than my Lancer, auto wipers, lights, heated mirrors, seats. Also had a turbo since it was the sport edition. I guess he is more upside down on his loan than the guy with the Nissan she's going to get in a week or two.

I'm glad he refused. She doesn't need a German car with expensive maintenance if anything was to happen. The cc is a heavy car which is good if there were to be an accident but vw cars always felt heavy and clunky to me when starting out from 0mph.

I bet there is something wrong with it, why buy a car and decide to sell it a month later? Especially replacing it with a more expensive car.
 
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