Looking for a notebook with socket 939 athlon socket and a nice graphics card. Any help?

[bkspitfire]

Title sums it up. Thanks in advance.

Barebones or premade are both good.

 

[Jassi]

HP ZV6000 or the Compaq R4000 (same laptop, different paint job) are the only ones that fit the bill. I am not sure I would qualify the Xpress 200M as a "nice" graphics card. Its much better than the integrated slutions though.

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: Jassi
HP ZV6000 or the Compaq R4000 (same laptop, different paint job) are the only ones that fit the bill. I am not sure I would qualify the Xpress 200M as a "nice" graphics card. Its much better than the integrated slutions though.

Thanks. Any idea what that card would compare to? (x300, x700 etc)

 

[bkspitfire]

oh also, I would be able to upgrade later then to an x2 processor right? I mean these laptops can have the cpu changed easily or? Thanks again.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

Tell that to the socket 939 chip sitting in my ZV6000

Edit - The Xpress 200M is a notch below the X300. Yes it sucks for newer games but you can wait for the X700 to come out in quantity.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

Tell that to the socket 939 chip sitting in my ZV6000

Edit - The Xpress 200M is a notch below the X300. Yes it sucks for newer games but you can wait for the X700 to come out in quantity.

Pics/proof? I'm interested

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

Tell that to the socket 939 chip sitting in my ZV6000

Edit - The Xpress 200M is a notch below the X300. Yes it sucks for newer games but you can wait for the X700 to come out in quantity.

What do you mean in quantity? There is no way i could upgrade the 200m later? If I understood its built in to the motherboard?

 

[mdahc]

Well, I just noticed this monster. It will supposedly be made available with a Quadro FX 1400, which isn't really optimized for games, but would definitely be better than a Radeon XPress 200m (I think the FX 1400 is the OpenGL optimized version of a 6800). Judging by the offered components, I'd expect this beast to cost > $3000. Thus, not really practical. Why do you desire s939 on a notebook exactly?

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: mdahc
Well, I just noticed this monster. It will supposedly be made available with a Quadro FX 1400, which isn't really optimized for games, but would definitely be better than a Radeon XPress 200m (I think the FX 1400 is the OpenGL optimized version of a 6800). Judging by the offered components, I'd expect this beast to cost > $3000. Thus, not really practical. Why do you desire s939 on a notebook exactly?

Hi mdahc, well i'm thinking about purchasing a s939 in the notebook because i'm an audio engineer and am going to need to be able to upgrade the processor in the future, (new x2 for example) while still being able to port my notebook around from time to time to record. I'd also like to avoid having to sell and repurchase a notebook for as long as possible hehe.

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

Tell that to the socket 939 chip sitting in my ZV6000

Edit - The Xpress 200M is a notch below the X300. Yes it sucks for newer games but you can wait for the X700 to come out in quantity.

Pics/proof? I'm interested

Will a cpu-z screenshot be acceptable? If yes, I will post as soon as I can repair my OS. I screwed up something while trying to install MatLab.

The theory behind the Skt 754 Semprons is that the motherboard chipset supports both sockets and the only difference is the socket on the motherboard itself. Somehow, HP has made it possible without too much hassle.

To the OP - If you want to avoid that possibilty, wait for the X2 laptops to come out. Right now it is a huge gamble that the BIOS will be updated to support the X2 in the ZV6000. Although they use desktop chips, there is no guarantee of compatibility with the X2.

 

[fbrdphreak]

That'll work, but I'm not 100% sure CPU-Z is always accurate w/mobile chips
Feel free to drop me an e-mail or link and I'll check w/some peeps @ HP

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I thought we covered this already?
I am 99% sure there are no socket 939 laptops. The only AMD chips available in mobile form right now are Socket 754. Yes, I realize the A64 4000+ w/1MB L2 Cache is a S939 desktop chip. Regardless, I find it entirely possible for AMD to sell a DTR A64 S754 chip w/a Clawhammer core (1MB L2 Cache) to OEM's. Look at the fact that Sempron CPU's are available with that system: Sempron is S754 only.
So therefore no, you won't be able to upgrade to an X2. Those require a S939 mobo as you know.

I honestly doubt we will see Socket 939 in the mobile platform as it is already moving to the value line in desktop form.

Tell that to the socket 939 chip sitting in my ZV6000

Edit - The Xpress 200M is a notch below the X300. Yes it sucks for newer games but you can wait for the X700 to come out in quantity.

Pics/proof? I'm interested

Will a cpu-z screenshot be acceptable? If yes, I will post as soon as I can repair my OS. I screwed up something while trying to install MatLab.

The theory behind the Skt 754 Semprons is that the motherboard chipset supports both sockets and the only difference is the socket on the motherboard itself. Somehow, HP has made it possible without too much hassle.

To the OP - If you want to avoid that possibilty, wait for the X2 laptops to come out. Right now it is a huge gamble that the BIOS will be updated to support the X2 in the ZV6000. Although they use desktop chips, there is no guarantee of compatibility with the X2.

Good point jassi. I'm just wondering if the new x2 laptops are going to be sooooo expensive. does anyone have any ideas about the new yonah/x2 laptops and pricing yet?

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: mdahc
Well, I just noticed this monster. It will supposedly be made available with a Quadro FX 1400, which isn't really optimized for games, but would definitely be better than a Radeon XPress 200m (I think the FX 1400 is the OpenGL optimized version of a 6800). Judging by the offered components, I'd expect this beast to cost > $3000. Thus, not really practical. Why do you desire s939 on a notebook exactly?

Do you think that this model, the Shuttle XPC ST20G5 that had the x2 in it was a pre x2 motherboard with an updated bios? That would be sweeeet.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I would not expect an X2 in a laptop in its current form. I would imagine AMD will come out with a mobile dual core solution before the X2's hit laptops themselves. Perhaps I can shed some light on this further in the summer

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I would not expect an X2 in a laptop in its current form. I would imagine AMD will come out with a mobile dual core solution before the X2's hit laptops themselves. Perhaps I can shed some light on this further in the summer

hehehe, oh decisions decisions

 

[bkspitfire]

Thanks for the info everyone!!

 

[fbrdphreak]

I spoke too soon

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD0xMjM0

 

[mdahc]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I would not expect an X2 in a laptop in its current form. I would imagine AMD will come out with a mobile dual core solution before the X2's hit laptops themselves. Perhaps I can shed some light on this further in the summer

Yeah, who knows. If you zoom in on the pic, the last bullet states "AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core processor for high-performance notebooks," so it may be a yet to be announced mobile version (socket ?). Anywho, I think it would be more practical to wait and see what happens with dual core Turion64.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Yeah, an A64 X2 in a notebook isn't practical

JUST FUN :evil:

 

[bkspitfire]

I suppose that having an x2 in the notebook would have a higher performance though than a turion dual core. I don't need to run this thing like a laptop really i just need to be able to move it easily.

 

[bkspitfire]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I spoke too soon

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD0xMjM0

Is this d900 have the same mobo as the regular 939 socket other non dual cores? if so then it would have a bios update available. :Q :thumbsup:

 

[Fenuxx]

I didn't even know you could get a notebook with 939! That's news to me, as I thought all A64 lappies were all 754. I'd like some proof to this, as this is a new one to me!

 

[FuzzyPalms]

AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3800+ (2.4GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
AMD Athlon(TM) 64 4000+ (2.4GHz/1MB l2 Cache)

I thought these were only available in socket 939, no? Both are available in HP lappys.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
I didn't even know you could get a notebook with 939! That's news to me, as I thought all A64 lappies were all 754. I'd like some proof to this, as this is a new one to me!

Still waiting for proof myself Need to get up w/HP, I keep forgetting

Originally posted by: FuzzyPalms
AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3800+ (2.4GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
AMD Athlon(TM) 64 4000+ (2.4GHz/1MB l2 Cache)

I thought these were only available in socket 939, no? Both are available in HP lappys.

How hard would it be for AMD to clock a Clawhammer DTR @ 2.4?