Looking for basic TV buying advice

CrimsonKing

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My mother badly needs a new TV. The 25" Magnavox we bought around 1988 can't hold colors anymore. She's decided to buy a new one. Looking for a no-payments-for-XXX-months" deal, but she's got some cash set aside if need be.

Mom is not an audio- or videophile by any means. She's happy with one speaker as long as it's loud. She will not likely notice the quality of HD, and certainly would prefer a setup that does not require a cable box. She's happy with using the TV remote for everything. She'll just be happier with a traditional TV. Simple is good here.

She has a very nice TV cabinet with doors that matches the rest of her furniture, so the TV has to fit in there. (She does not want a TV hanging on her wall!) We found a 32" Sony at a major appliance chain. The price and financing were good. It fit (just barely, utilizing the cut-out section of the cabinet's back panel). Trinitron is a great tube. So she drives out to buy the thing and the sales guys says, "What do you want that for? It won't be any good in a year. You won't be able to watch TV on it." "You need HD." "Everything's going to be in widescreen." "You'll be looking at black bars on your TV."

Of course, I'm not there, so I don't know the exact "facts" he spouted off, but those were the general ones she got out of it. He kept trying to push her into a widescreen Toshiba for $25 more. The closest I could find on their web site was a 30" 16:9 HD-ready. When I reach back 20 years and do the math, I calculate that the "blocked-off" wide image she'll see on the 32" 4:3 screen will be just a tiny bit smaller than with the 16:9, but when she's watching traditional 4:3 programming (ie. for the next year and probably longer), the blocked-off picture on the 16:9 screen will be dwarfed by what she'd have with the 32" at full screen.

I have not kept up with the A/V market for several years. (I never thought I'd be so out of touch, but you get some money and buy the toys you want, you start back to grad school, you work 60 hours a week, and you just forget about trying to keep current with ANYthing that mattered to you way back in your 20's!) I know that networks will be required to broadcast digitally (but not nec. in HD) at a certain point in time and they they will stop analog transmission at another point in time. I don't know much more than that.

My question is will this television be usable for watching basic cable and DVDs in four or five years? I assume she'd need some sort of converter if everything were suddenly digital, but that's not a big deal. Heck, her local cable company just expanded the channel lineup to include "new" channels like Food Network, so they're not very cutting edge.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

suse920

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yes it should be usable, and the tv will work in a year. Although going widescreen would'nt hurt anything except for a little viewable area.
 

suse920

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Get the $294 27" 4:3 RCA HDTV at Wal-Mart

RCA has terrible reliability issues. I would stay away from them
 

nsafreak

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I agree with suse920 there are some serious reliablility issues with current RCA sets. Back about 10 years ago they used to make really reliable sets with good picture quality. Now their sets are pretty much crap.

On to the question at hand yes the TV will work for her needs and should continue to work into the future. However it wouldn't hurt to investigate getting a HDTV a little bit more. Believe me I would find it hard to believe that your mother wouldn't notice the difference between standard definition programming and high definition. It might be a good idea to pay a visit to the store with your mother and do a side by side comparison between a HD set and a SD set. And if the difference that she sees isn't worth the money to her than stick with the Wega you chose earlier.
 

Excelsior

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a regular 4:3 analog TV will be good for still, quite some time. Hell, look at the state of HD. There arent that many channels, and most channels are still non-hd.
 

CrimsonKing

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Thanks to everyone for the help! The other issue with HD is she already thinks she's paying too much for cable, so I don't see her ever paying more for HD until she's forced to. I might take her to the store, though. Then this will put the decision back on her. She lives about an hour away, so it's not usually possible, but I don't have any plans for the holiday yet, so maybe we'll fight the mall traffic Monday.
 
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
a regular 4:3 analog TV will be good for still, quite some time. Hell, look at the state of HD. There arent that many channels, and most channels are still non-hd.
Even worse, depending on your provider, you'll get HD-lite instead of true HD. DirecTV is one of these culprits.

Plain and simple, 4:3 sets will not be obsolete for another 8-10 years IMO. Don't let these sales guys fool you into thinking everything is going to be HD in a couple of years. The government mandates that all television be switched to digital by 2009 or something, but digital doesn't equal HD. Is HD the way a lot of stations are going? Yes. When will 50% of channels be in HD at today's prices? A long damn time from now.

My advice, if you can get a decent HD set for very close to what you were going to pay for a standard set, go for it. But don't go out of your way financially to get an HDTV when she probably won't use it.

Also, keep in mind that there are HDTV (high-definition) and EDTV (enhanced definition). EDTV's are typically cheaper, and only offer a DVD-quality picture, and I hate that they even exist. They are out there to rob the uninformed customer.
 

Merlyn3D

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Most cable providers are still trying to find the bandwidth to accomodate channels if they were all HD.
 

PING

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If you are a costco member, there's a Sharp 27" for only $230. It's a CRT with Flat tube.
 

purbeast0

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just one thing ... if you get a 4:3 TV ... do NOT get an HDTV.

the HD standard is 16:9 @ 720p/1080i. getting a 4:3 HDTV is obsolete the second you buy it.

if you are going HD, get 16:9 ... if you aren't getting HD, get 4:3. from your needs, it seems like a 4:3 TV will be enough. i'd pick up a sony wega or something. they get great pictures. i have a 50" DLP RPTV and my old TV was a 27" wega. the thing gets GREAT pictures and still does to this date (and its over 5 years old).
 

Blayze

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
a regular 4:3 analog TV will be good for still, quite some time. Hell, look at the state of HD. There arent that many channels, and most channels are still non-hd.

I agree. I wouldn't worry about the HD. Get her a nice flat 4:3 analog. Sams Club has a nice JVC 32 inch for about $400 right now.

The TV will still be usuable in 4 to 5 years, probably longer. I wouldn't worry about that. If HD does take over in 4 years I'm sure there will be a box or something she can buy to continue watching TV, she just want be able to take advantage of HD.
 

batmanuel

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Even if you have a basic 4:3 standard definition TV set, the HD channels can still be useful on some cable systems. I have one of the Motorola DVR boxes with my Comcast cable and it can output the HD channels on the cable to 480i SD quality over the S-Video output to my SD Sony Wega. It will even letterbox the shows for 4:3 TVs like mine. Even though the quality is not as good as HD, it is still a heck of a lot crisper than the analog versions of the same channel lower down on the dial (especially the network affiliates). Not sure how many of the other Motorola boxes have this option. I even get real DD 5.1 sound for all my network shows (CSI in 5.1 can be pretty interesting). Also, the $10 a month you pay for DVR service takes care of the HD programming charge (which is normally $6), so I'm not really paying extra for the HD channels.
 
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