Looking through OKcupid's profiles...

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
That's actually a huge deal for a lot of people. Though OkCupid is more progressive.

I see "I don't date outside my race" a modest amount around here. I remember one profile that tried to make it better by saying, "I'm not racist. That's just how I was raised." :biggrin: Oddly enough, I also see black girls that say, "I don't date black guys."

I've re-written and "optimized" my bio so many times that it got to a point where it only felt like work anymore.

Ugh, I know what you mean. I've tried a lot of different approach to profiles. I've tried using lists where you just list basic facts about yourself; serious and to the point; and also ones where humor tends to trump detail. Right now I'm testing the latter, but honestly... it pretty much never matters what I use as the majority of women that message or favorite me are extremely large.

I think it would be interesting to try a different approach related to "serious and to the point". Essentially, find out the information that most women like to see in a profile (living status, job status, etc.) and distill that down into a quick and easy to read morsel of awesomeness.

Above all else, you want to express why you're interesting, not them. She probably get a hundred messages a day that she deletes without reading.

When I did bother to send messages, when I put even a resemblance of effort, my return rate was over 75%. I found that to be crazy. Then, I started to just say "Hey there" which got me replies almost 50% of the time. Then, I'd just go "hi" and that even got higher than the average return rate according to OKC.

I've always wondered about message length vs. return. There are times when I just put too much effort into a message, which makes it all the more lame when you see "unread deleted". (I paid for PoF once a long time ago, and their site is so bad that they never removed my paid features. ) I think the one thing that gets me to write more is that you tend to see profiles that say something like, "send me more than just 'hi'."

I think the message length relates a lot to how messages are consumed. I see a lot of people messaging through their phones, and I assume the phone app presents it more like a text conversation. Since it looks like texting and people are used to fairly short texts, they end up preferring short messages.
 

z1ggy

Lifer
May 17, 2008
10,004
63
91
There you have it fellas, expert advice from a guy that got a girlfriend at OKcupid.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I was waiting for your dumb ass to say something. I believe this thread is about "dating", so only people who've dated should actually reply. If we want advice on how to knock a chick up in your teens, we will be sure to ask you.
 

Robert Munch

Senior member
Oct 11, 2006
899
0
76
What's disappointing is that as you scroll through the pictures women tend to get bigger and bigger. It reminds me of a timeline somewhat original picture is from 6+ years ago and the last pic is most current.

I've had success using opener's that make people either laugh or blow it off. I've been using this gem on Tinder as of recently with good returns.

Maybe you can help me. I forgot my password to my account and when I hit "password hint" it keeps telling me "Jordan's phone number." Think you can help me out here?
 

Rakehellion

Lifer
Jan 15, 2013
12,181
35
91
I was waiting for your dumb ass to say something. I believe this thread is about "dating", so only people who've dated should actually reply. If we want advice on how to knock a chick up in your teens, we will be sure to ask you.

 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
30,739
452
126
What's disappointing is that as you scroll through the pictures women tend to get bigger and bigger. It reminds me of a timeline somewhat original picture is from 6+ years ago and the last pic is most current.

I've had success using opener's that make people either laugh or blow it off. I've been using this gem on Tinder as of recently with good returns.

Maybe you can help me. I forgot my password to my account and when I hit "password hint" it keeps telling me "Jordan's phone number." Think you can help me out here?

You tell the girl that you lost your account password... while you're currently logged in and talking with her? I know you're just trying to be cute, but I've never seen a pickup line with a plot hole before
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
You tell the girl that you lost your account password... while you're currently logged in and talking with her? I know you're just trying to be cute, but I've never seen a pickup line with a plot hole before

What about the magic watch one? That's always a fun one! :biggrin:
 

Robert Munch

Senior member
Oct 11, 2006
899
0
76
You tell the girl that you lost your account password... while you're currently logged in and talking with her? I know you're just trying to be cute, but I've never seen a pickup line with a plot hole before
Not meant to be taken seriously. It's hit or miss but, i've had success. Gets right to the point and weeds out meaningless chat that can end up nowhere.
 
Last edited:

mmntech

Lifer
Sep 20, 2007
17,501
12
0
I see "I don't date outside my race" a modest amount around here. I remember one profile that tried to make it better by saying, "I'm not racist. That's just how I was raised." :biggrin: Oddly enough, I also see black girls that say, "I don't date black guys."

I find that it's mostly Asian girls who say that. Koreans in particular, but also Chinese. A lot of it is cultural. Racism is still pretty acceptable in those countries. Part of it too is the horror stories of white gamma males looking for a submissive waifu.

Above all else, you want to express why you're interesting, not them. She probably get a hundred messages a day that she deletes without reading.

But if you've had more success offline, I can understand your frustration. It's definitely not the same thing as meeting a girl on the street.

I was active from 2010-2013, less so as of recent.

Today I learned that Rakehellion has shockingly great hair. :awe:

Also lol at the one gay guy that messaged you.
 

Rakehellion

Lifer
Jan 15, 2013
12,181
35
91
You tell the girl that you lost your account password... while you're currently logged in and talking with her? I know you're just trying to be cute, but I've never seen a pickup line with a plot hole before

All pickup lines have plot holes. That's what makes them funny.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
26,252
403
126
It sounds like English isn't the guy's first language. I'm not sure I see the huge funny there.
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
18,407
39
91
I find that it's mostly Asian girls who say that. Koreans in particular, but also Chinese. A lot of it is cultural. Racism is still pretty acceptable in those countries. Part of it too is the horror stories of white gamma males looking for a submissive waifu.



Today I learned that Rakehellion has shockingly great hair. :awe:

Also lol at the one gay guy that messaged you.

His hair looks like sex, which probably is from fucking with unrivaled passion. :awe:

Nice profile btw, Rakehellion. You have an ego that rivals Mr. Almighty Alkymst.
 
Last edited:

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
18,407
39
91
Lol so now you're blaming racism?

Why do you think online is a wasteland, when it's just streamlining real life interactions? When you meet a person in person... They do the same shit they do when they look at your profile. They instantly judge your looks. If you're ugly/fat/unkept in person... Then you're going to be glossed over online, too.

If you're a little Debbie downer on top of all of that, yeah you're going to strike out. Plus if you live in a less populated area, there's even less of a chance of getting dates online.

Think logically first before you go complaining. Being non-white has little to do with it.

Not really complaining, I'm just stating a well known fact from many studies.
With that said, while I've heard many guys aren't into black girls, they'd all fuck the brains out of Beyonce, so there are obviously exceptions. And yes, you could still make up for a lot of it by taking good profile pics and being charming and witty.

http://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
http://www.ayi.com/dating-blog/online-dating-ethnicity-racial-preference-interracial-dating-ayi/
http://healthland.time.com/2013/11/04/hope-for-online-dating-study-shows-its-less-segregated/
 

Rakehellion

Lifer
Jan 15, 2013
12,181
35
91
Not really complaining, I'm just stating a well known fact from many studies.
With that said, while I've heard many guys aren't into black girls, they'd all fuck the brains out of Beyonce, so there are obviously exceptions. And yes, you could still make up for a lot of it by taking good profile pics and being charming and witty.

http://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
http://www.ayi.com/dating-blog/online-dating-ethnicity-racial-preference-interracial-dating-ayi/
http://healthland.time.com/2013/11/04/hope-for-online-dating-study-shows-its-less-segregated/

They'd fuck Beyonce, but they'd rather marry Taylor Swift.
 

Rakehellion

Lifer
Jan 15, 2013
12,181
35
91
Studies have shown that this preference is stronger than almost any other when it comes to finding mates, although it’s not entirely clear why.

More than any other preference? Damn, Anand has to make a cool mill just to break even with that pimply-faced barista.
 

88keys

Golden Member
Aug 24, 2012
1,854
12
81
I did okcupid several years ago with moderate success and I wasn't even in that great of shape physically. However I recently helped a couple of friends of mine with their dating profiles and though my experience is limited; I honestly think that the playing field is worse even though there seem to be more people than ever dating online.


One of my friends who is in his early 30s, a homeowner, makes good money, and by no means unattractive had very poor success online dating. I helped him with tweak his profile and we honestly found the best results by being brief and vague and telling a few little white lies. But even then success was limited. He ended having better results in the real world.


And then there is a good female friend of mine who isn't very tech savvy and I helped setting up here profile and she is an above average woman in terms of attractiveness (25yo 5'8" 140lbs athletic). She has a good job, a degree, etc etc. And her inbox would get flooded with messages and it would be extremely difficult to sort through them all. She'd sort through a pick 3 guys at a time to date and it was loser after loser after loser after loser. The stories she told me about some of her first dates were over the top absurd. One guy even asked her for gas money after they both went to a dive bar on a first date.....

It seems that any woman who as at least above a 5 (on a 1-10 scale) would have to put up with this. So it's really not fair to entirely blame women for the online dating situation. If your inbox received 20-30 messages a day, it would be really hard for any one person to stand out among that crowd, so unless you're Brad Pitt and you have some uber sexy job... well the odds are against you.


But yeah, it just blows my mind how we live in a time where we can so easily make connections with new people a few miles or a few thousand miles away, but yet those connections seem to be harder than ever to forge.
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
18,407
39
91
Even average attractiveness for a male have a hard time on dating sites who gets about the same response as someone who's ugly. On the other hand, if you're a woman, it doesn't matter if you're a walrus and disfigured, you'll get a lot of messages still. Granted, it's unknown with this guy's experiment how good his profile or his messages are. Perhaps he wrote the most bland profile and generic messages so he hardly got a response with his attractiveness going for him.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...okcupid_and_tinder/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

On the other hand, if you look at the kind of messages women gets spammed with, it's easy to see why they would be so insanely selective with the responses. Most guys are just sad horny losers looking for sex.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...t_it_was_like_to_be+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 
Last edited:

tortillasoup

Golden Member
Jan 12, 2011
1,977
4
81
Eh, I think you're over thinking it. That experiment and my experience with these dating sites says that for women, it's like being an employer in this job market... tons of applicants to choose from. When I was searching through OK cupid, I first saw the limited selection of women then I wanted to see the # guys available. Holy shit are there a lot more guys than girls. The guy experimenting and you yhelothar are over thinking it. Why should a girl settle for average looking guys when there are a plethora of good looking ones to choose from? Anyway I was already under the presumption that there are no women on the internet anyway.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |