Aikouka
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That's actually a huge deal for a lot of people. Though OkCupid is more progressive.
I see "I don't date outside my race" a modest amount around here. I remember one profile that tried to make it better by saying, "I'm not racist. That's just how I was raised." :biggrin: Oddly enough, I also see black girls that say, "I don't date black guys."
I've re-written and "optimized" my bio so many times that it got to a point where it only felt like work anymore.
Ugh, I know what you mean. I've tried a lot of different approach to profiles. I've tried using lists where you just list basic facts about yourself; serious and to the point; and also ones where humor tends to trump detail. Right now I'm testing the latter, but honestly... it pretty much never matters what I use as the majority of women that message or favorite me are extremely large.
I think it would be interesting to try a different approach related to "serious and to the point". Essentially, find out the information that most women like to see in a profile (living status, job status, etc.) and distill that down into a quick and easy to read morsel of awesomeness.
Above all else, you want to express why you're interesting, not them. She probably get a hundred messages a day that she deletes without reading.
When I did bother to send messages, when I put even a resemblance of effort, my return rate was over 75%. I found that to be crazy. Then, I started to just say "Hey there" which got me replies almost 50% of the time. Then, I'd just go "hi" and that even got higher than the average return rate according to OKC.
I've always wondered about message length vs. return. There are times when I just put too much effort into a message, which makes it all the more lame when you see "unread deleted". (I paid for PoF once a long time ago, and their site is so bad that they never removed my paid features. ) I think the one thing that gets me to write more is that you tend to see profiles that say something like, "send me more than just 'hi'."
I think the message length relates a lot to how messages are consumed. I see a lot of people messaging through their phones, and I assume the phone app presents it more like a text conversation. Since it looks like texting and people are used to fairly short texts, they end up preferring short messages.