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Mxylplyx

Diamond Member
Mar 21, 2007
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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: BoomerD
http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

It's not only that station...gas prices in San Fran have always been ridiculously higher than the rest of the area.

Oddly enough, the cheapest gas prices listed there are all UNDER $3.00/gallon...that's GOTTA be a misprint, or the stations are losing money for some promotional stunt...

Read my response above. They are either ignorant, or trying to mislead everyone.

How much are the big oil executives paying you?

none, unfortunately.

 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
54,894
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.
 

EagleKeeper

Discussion Club Moderator<br>Elite Member
Staff member
Oct 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?

 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
33,569
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So to determine that, we need to know how much profit they get out of each gallon. Their profits could be due to volume.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?

In his own head, of course.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
54,894
47
91
www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So to determine that, we need to know how much profit they get out of each gallon. Their profits could be due to volume.

That's the problem. There is no accountability.

They can make it $30 gallon today and nothing to stop them from doing it.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So to determine that, we need to know how much profit they get out of each gallon. Their profits could be due to volume.

That's the problem. There is no accountability.

They can make it $30 gallon today and nothing to stop them from doing it.

Actually, there is. Once again you prove your ignorance of commodities and the free market. Let me ask you this: If the oil companies and the <ahem> oil barons are out to defraud us and steal all our money, why isnt gas at $10/gal? Afterall people will buy gas...the logic of your theories have some big a$$ holes. Once again, youre full of hot air.
 

jlbenedict

Banned
Jul 10, 2005
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0
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So to determine that, we need to know how much profit they get out of each gallon. Their profits could be due to volume.

That's the problem. There is no accountability.

They can make it $30 gallon today and nothing to stop them from doing it.

Actually, there is. Once again you prove your ignorance of commodities and the free market. Let me ask you this: If the oil companies and the <ahem> oil barons are out to defraud us and steal all our money, why isnt gas at $10/gal? Afterall people will buy gas...the logic of your theories have some big a$$ holes. Once again, youre full of hot air.

I believe if gasoline shot up to $10 / gallon, then I'm sure the government would have to step in and question their motives.

But then again... $10 / gallon would benefit the corrupt government greatly, so its a win win situation for the oil barons and the good ole boy government.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.

We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

So? Show me empty gas stations.

So you suddenly don't care if we build any?

I never said that.

I just want everyone involved in this illegal theivery locked up like Enron.

Justify the bolded word of your comment.

Where is the illegality?
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So to determine that, we need to know how much profit they get out of each gallon. Their profits could be due to volume.

That's the problem. There is no accountability.

They can make it $30 gallon today and nothing to stop them from doing it.

Actually, there is. Once again you prove your ignorance of commodities and the free market. Let me ask you this: If the oil companies and the <ahem> oil barons are out to defraud us and steal all our money, why isnt gas at $10/gal? Afterall people will buy gas...the logic of your theories have some big a$$ holes. Once again, youre full of hot air.

I believe if gasoline shot up to $10 / gallon, then I'm sure the government would have to step in and question their motives.

But then again... $10 / gallon would benefit the corrupt government greatly, so its a win win situation for the oil barons and the good ole boy government.

But the point is, they cant.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: brandonb
I don't remember gas jumping up $1-2 during hurrican season until Dubya entered office. Hurricane Andrew didn't cause such a spike?

Why the excuses now a days? If someone calls in sick at the refinery, gas jumps $0.20. This crap didn't exist 10-20 years ago. Each president seems to have its odd points.

This is one oddity of the Bush Admin. I do see it hitting $4.00 a gallon.
We have not built a refinery in this country in 35 years.

Don't need to build new refineries when expanding existing ones is cheaper.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twiparch/040714/twipprint.html
Much has been made of the fact that no significant grassroots refinery has been built in the United States in nearly 3 decades other than some small simple refineries. Yet, U.S. refinery capacity has increased 1.9 million barrels per day over the last 10 years, which is equivalent to the addition of 1 medium-size refinery per year on average, as refiners attempt to de-bottleneck and make their refineries more efficient, change feedstocks, and add capacity to meet market opportunities. In EIA's latest Petroleum Supply Annual, Volume 1, although the number of refineries stayed the same between January 1, 2003 and January 1, 2004, capacity increased by 137,000 barrels per day, adding, again, the equivalent of another medium-sized refinery! The release of this information comes at a critical juncture within the petroleum refining industry, when many policy makers and industry analysts are debating the merits of adding distillation capacity by either building new refineries or by the reactivation of closed ones. High gasoline prices and questions about the ability of the U.S. refining industry to meet growing demand are fueling these arguments.

Concern regarding the adequacy of refining capacity is relatively recent. There was significant surplus capacity from the mid-1970s until the mid-1990s. The U.S. refining industry reached its peak in 1981 with 324 operable refineries with a total distillation capacity of 18.6 million barrels per calendar day. That same year, surplus refining capacity, measured as operable capacity minus gross inputs, totaled about 5.9 million barrels per day, resulting in an average utilization rate of 69 percent (see chart below). Many small, inefficient refineries shut down in the early 1980s when the Domestic Crude Oil Allocation Program was removed and their subsidies ended, but capacity was still in excess relative to demand. Many small refineries have continued to close, albeit at a slower rate than in the early 1980s, to reach 149 refineries today, with the last new grassroots refinery completed in 1976. Even with the shutdowns, however, total capacity has remained relatively flat since the mid-1980s as operating refineries have expanded at existing facilities.


And, fwiw, when I met Dave almost 2 years ago down in New Orleans, it seemed quite incredulous that $3/gal would be a new norm within a couple of years as he told me it would be.

Well, the national average right now is right at about $3/gal.

Gas has gone up over 70% here just since the end of January. Refining costs have increased 70% since Jan? BS!!
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
63,344
11,718
136
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: BoomerD
http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

It's not only that station...gas prices in San Fran have always been ridiculously higher than the rest of the area.

Oddly enough, the cheapest gas prices listed there are all UNDER $3.00/gallon...that's GOTTA be a misprint, or the stations are losing money for some promotional stunt...

Read my response above. They are either ignorant, or trying to mislead everyone.


Not sure who you're calling ignorant, nor who you think is trying to mislead who, but gas prices HERE in Kahleeforneeya's central valley are over $3.25 (at the cheapest stations) so seeing gasoline close to $4.00/ gallon in San Fran isn't unusual.
I checked the gas price website again this morning as I read this thread, and that same Shell station is now $4.33. The next cheapest station is $3.95, followed by a few in the $3.80's.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
32,323
15,121
136
1-26-2021

Drive For Five is here. California prices went up over $2 today. Many stations above $5. Michigan Governor Whitmer shutdown the oil pipeline into Michigan, MIdwest gas prices projected to be $5 to $6.

Why do you continue lying?

 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,415
14,307
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I have friends that posted pics of the pumps today. You are free to drive out there yourself and see with your own eyes.
I freely drove to Costco earlier and saw that gas was $2.45, the same price it has been for months.
I know this OMG oil prices are gonna skyrocket is popular RWNJ propaganda right now, but it's not happening. Oil is $50/barrel, demand is at rockbottom due to COVID, and stockpiles are at record highs.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,415
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Oh look Sleepy Joe's buddies have come out of their basements.
Have you ever once made a prediction here that turned out to true? Must be nice to be able to be so blissfully unaccountable to reality.
 

esquared

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 8, 2000
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I live with some of the most expensive gas prices in CA and thus the United States.

Gas at my chevron hasn't budged for weeks. 3.69
The 76 station across the street?
Dropped 10 cents today from yesterday to 3.49.

Costco, some miles away is 2.99

Quit lying.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
16,189
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Why do you continue lying?


I'm less interested in why he lies - lots of people do that - and more interested in what is the source of his decade+ obsession with this particular issue. I feel like he's still going to be posting here about gas prices on his death bed.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,415
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If I knew that oil and gas prices were going to skyrocket, I'd be making a fortune off that knowledge in the futures market, not spreading FUD on social media. Just sayin.
 
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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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I'm less interested in why he lies - lots of people do that - and more interested in what is the source of his decade+ obsession with this particular issue. I feel like he's still going to be posting here about gas prices on his death bed.

And everyone is driving electrics...

Gas prices are the least of our problems right now. This issue is so 2007.
 
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