Looks like I'm plain screwed? Landlord keeping my security deposit:

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Ns1

No Lifer
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A proper service dog should be highly trained. But some people try to get away with saying their untrained pet is a "service" animal.
We can't argue against a "service" animal's validity, so I think we should respond by calling expert medical care when a "service" dog is alerting humans to something.

I'm not sure you know how a service dog works.
 

dr150

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I'm not sure you know how a service dog works.

Just buy a Service Dog vest on eBay and call it a "service dog" even if it can't open you a beer from the fridge with a nice foam head.
 

jlee

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cats are at least quiet and I will more likely approve a cat than a dog. it all depends on the house I am offering. A condo: no dogs as I dont want to disturb the neighbors with barking. Place with wall to wall carpetting, no cats bc they scratch up the rugs and file their claws. An antiquey place with original wood moldings/trim, no pets at all.

If I approve an pet on the lease, at the very least the new tenant gets a special pet rider on the lease (specific instructions at end of tenancy that they have to clean etc...) And a rent increase, usually $50 per month extra. If the jurisdiction permits, I'll charge a separate pet deposit.

I've always hated that. Other than potential damages (which you would cover under your security deposit and pet security deposit), there's absolutely no reason for this other than to fuck over pet owners.

Meanwhile, someone can move in with destructive children and pay nothing extra.
 

dr150

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I've always hated that. Other than potential damages (which you would cover under your security deposit and pet security deposit), there's absolutely no reason for this other than to fuck over pet owners.

Meanwhile, someone can move in with destructive children and pay nothing extra.

QFT!

I'll observe kids as well for demeanor. I've rejected applicants b/c their kids were little tornadoes!
 

NetWareHead

THAT guy
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I've always hated that. Other than potential damages (which you would cover under your security deposit and pet security deposit), there's absolutely no reason for this other than to fuck over pet owners.

Meanwhile, someone can move in with destructive children and pay nothing extra.

My security deposit doesnt cover for wear and tear, just damages. Pets cause more wear and tear than I anticipate and thats why I charge more rent.

I prefer no children but if the kids are unruly or not under control, I find a legal reason to deny.
 

zinfamous

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My security deposit doesnt cover for wear and tear, just damages. Pets cause more wear and tear than I anticipate and thats why I charge more rent.

I prefer no children but if the kids are unruly or not under control, I find a legal reason to deny.

That's Kid-ist! D:
 

crashtech

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Why is that 'dumb'? Seems like a scam that everyone will use when they figure it out that then they can sue you when you turn them down/don't re-up the rent

It's dumb because it is oblivious to right and wrong. It's dumb because it's the mentality of the thief given legitimacy by the state. It's dumb because it's connivery disguised as victimhood. Sometimes big words aren't necessary, people that pull this shit are just dumb fucking cunts that should have their heads knocked off just for wasting decent people's oxygen.
 

dr150

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It's dumb because it is oblivious to right and wrong. It's dumb because it's the mentality of the thief given legitimacy by the state. It's dumb because it's connivery disguised as victimhood. Sometimes big words aren't necessary, people that pull this shit are just dumb fucking cunts that should have their heads knocked off just for wasting decent people's oxygen.

Amen brother!

PREACH IT FROM THE MOUNTAIN!
 

dr150

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JEDIYoda

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...ghlight=tenant

"Landlord won't renew lease because of my emotional support animal "

I think its a crock of shit if you ask me. If I had a tenant like this, they would not get a renewal...
Just because you have an emotional support animal documented or not, does not place you above the law. The landlord does not allow pets or animals in his apartments then you are SOL!!
 

JEDIYoda

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I don't know where you're going with this. This is not an exception. This is part of the business.

Credit checks are an absolute no-brainer "requirement" when screening finalist applicants. There's companies that are hired to further do criminal, sex offender, eviction and past tenant/landlord relationship checks for all 50 States, etc, etc. That helps a bit. But never as much as you'd like to when you have experience in this business.

The fact is that DESPITE all these checks, as a practicing investment property landlord, you DEAL with a host of unforeseen "human asshole" issues that eventually come to bear where tenants go out of their way to make you stress the fuck out.

You may own 100 units, but you will indeed deal with more than a handful of these cases, every year and most months, that make you question why the fuck you are in this stupid business in the first place if you don't have the stomach for it.

I know several guys who own hundreds of units and they have attorneys working every month, year-round on evictions/tenant damages/crime/police investigations & raids/squatting tenants manipulating rent law to continue to squat, etc, etc.

The damage money is pretty much unrecoverable as people that run into trouble and damage shit are "incapable" of paying back. Even with a court order to garnish wages, you have to hunt them down if they switch jobs or States, which so many do. The hassle of collecting that $100/mo. garnishment on $15000 of damages is just not worth the stress and fees to chase them.

Every landlord I know that is caught in this situation, in practice, takes it as a writeoff and work off that debt from the profit from the other rentals....b/c going to court to garnish wages after an eviction is a waste of time with such manipulative folks.

It's not a pretty business.

It's a P&L statement with a host of scummy people, that despite all thorough checks, will go out of their way to act as evil as possible and knowingly make your life as miserable as possible to boot.
It Is still an exception to the rule! Just because you have thousands of cases to back you up does not mean that it is not an exception to the rule....thousands compared to the millions....hmmm
 

deadlyapp

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Just because you have an emotional support animal documented or not, does not place you above the law. The landlord does not allow pets or animals in his apartments then you are SOL!!

Not the case in California where you can't be evicted for having an emotional support animal. I think they do reserve the right to cancel your lease though or find another way around (eg rent increase, contract change, etc).
 
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