Looks like my marriage is over.

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Chunkee

Lifer
Jul 28, 2002
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you are an attorney
you know that divorce is one of the most devastating things to a person.
do you have children?

Only one question to ask yourselves...do you think it is worth saving? If so, then get into counseling NOW!!

My wife and I are in counseling and it is helping. If the answer is no to the question, then try to separate at first. Watch your friggin money as divorce can bring out the worst in anyone, and divorce attorneys are scum of the earth...I fired all three of mine. they are worthless. I am not down on all attorneys, i am married to one, but divorce are the bottom feeders. hope there are no children like in my divorce. Good luck and DO NOT MAKE RASH decisions.

jC out
 
Jul 1, 2000
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We have no kids.
I just spent 13 years with her, 3 years married. The previous 10, I was in college / dead end job / law school. We waited to get married until I was done with law school.

Ever since we married, things changed. She was no longer happy with me the way that I was. I suddenly needed to change... everything.

 

Papagayo

Platinum Member
Jul 28, 2003
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No Kids?
You not Happy + Her not Happy = Divorce..

If you had Kids, that's a different story..



 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
We have no kids.
I just spent 13 years with her, 3 years married. The previous 10, I was in college / dead end job / law school. We waited to get married until I was done with law school.

Ever since we married, things changed. She was no longer happy with me the way that I was. I suddenly needed to change... everything.

Sounds like maybe she had some unrealistic expectations, and she's angry that they're not being met. Given the hostile comments you've shared with us, I'd say that's fairly likely. She needs some help to look at those expectations and how she's dealing with the disappointment.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
anything is worth it if you want it.
looks like the blame is on both of you though, not just her.

When did he say the blame is all on her? He flat out admitted that it was not.
 

Gravity

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Mar 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: busmaster11
Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
So I was having lunch today with my wife, and we were talking about buying a house. Things have not been great at all in our marriage for the last two years... not great at all.

Anyway, we were talking about the minor league football team that was listed for sale on eBay for $100,000. I asked her, jokingly, if she had $100k to loan me to buy the team. She said that if she had a $100k, she would not need me to help her buy a house.

Whoa.

So I ask her if that is the only reason why we are married - so she could have a house. She did not answer, stating matter-of-factly, that I could not possibly be any more happy about our situation than she is.

Truth is... I'm not.

I've spent the better part of the afternoon fighting back tears, wondering if this is it. I have not been the best husband, and I recognize that. She could also have been a loving and supportive wife, too. We have been together for 13 years, and the last two have been pretty bad.

Is it worth saving?


love = self-sacrifice

PRIDE is the dead opposite of both, and it runs deep in all our hearts.

QFT...lots of wisdom from a Plat member!!
 

Metron

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Oct 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am curious how you are treating her in all this. I mean, no offense to your wife, but when you quote the things she says or does, she sounds like not a very nice person. Are you a dick to her too? Because if not, then I don't think she is worth staying with. She seems abusive.

You know... I'm really not sure. She tells me that I can be cold, verbally abusive, and downright evil at times. I really don't see it. I ask for examples, and she does not give me any.

Others have told me that she is abusive, and clearly does not love me. They have suggested that I leave her, and even offered me free room and board if I'd do it.

Sounds like a toxic relationship... I filed for divorce in a similar situation 5 years ago.

1) No kids
2) Both verbally/emotionally abusive to each other (apparently)
3) She's only in the relationship for house/security
4) You're both unhappy and fighting constantly

= Time to Leave

I would suggest getting counseling yourself (during/after the divorce), lest you repeat the same pattern/mistakes again in your next relationship.

 

billandopus

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She verbally communicated that she was only interested in the "relationship" to incur a stake in real estate?

C'mon man.

Do you really think that counselling will affect that attitude? That resignation in her mindset?

I would certainly try counselling anyways. What the hell? As long as she's a willing participant too and that both of you guys are willing to put some effort to reconnect.

If she's cheating on you ... that's another story.

Oh, i'm also surprised that you're a divorce lawyer (albeit a fairly new one from what I can tell) without equity in real estate. The first thing I did was buy a freakin' house and start paying a mortgage and building equity. Not a divorce lawyer though.

Good luck ... and if things don't work out there's always the women in administrative support! My firm's attitude towards potential hirees is that if they can work in a bar they can work here. Competent or not.
 

y2kc

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Sep 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Just curious, do you have a pre-nup?

Nah... I was broke when we met.

Now we're not broke. She said that she is willing to just let me have what is in my personal accounts and my business (which is my firm) and she'll just take her 401k. Not a bad deal for me, really.

take the deal, now!! get it in writing and walk away. i agree with your friends, she doesn't love you man. her comments are a strong indicator of this fact.

take the blinders off and protect yourself. you buy a house with her and you WILL regret it.

things end, it's a fact of life. no one's fault. you're just not made for each other. move on.
 

GOREGRINDER

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Oct 31, 2005
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damn man,...sorry to hear that seriously

you know like the door's song goes " women seem wicked,..when your not wanted" words to live by .//imo,..id take it like that and go with it,..sounds like you have things straight with yourself take hold of your life for yourself and treat her as if she is outside of your life,...as far as she's conserned,..your too busy for her,...you realize how good things are without her,...and that shes gettin exactly what she portrayed to you that she wanted, or... that you not being anymore involved with her is "for her happiness" because thats all youve ever wanted was for her to be happy with you(because as far as she should know you would be doing all this to make her happy because you love her and only will do whatever would make her truly happy,..after all thats always been all you ever wanted in the relationship with her,...see where im goin with this? . aka,..segway for open conversation on how you both feel,..cuz if she wont respond in any way to that,...its dead)

 

tm37

Lifer
Jan 24, 2001
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If things changed after you got married I would ask what her expectations were.

It could be you just have no idea what she wanted or wants and she is afraid that you will leave if she tells you.

Getting both sides to talk is very difficult and I am trying to get my wife to talk as well, it is very hard. However you need to decide if you want to change and then discuss with her how you need to change. Also if you feel she needs to change you need to discuss that as well. My wife tells me that she is afraid if she says the wrong thing that I will leave. we are slowly working on what our expectations are for each other. Often as we grow as people our relationship does not and we expect the other person to know about our growth and how we have changed and adapt. And if both people follow this path soon they look and they are miles apart. What do you want from her and what does she want from you. Ask, talk, and let her know that you are not happy with the current situation and you want to help because you still love her (if you do).

You with with this person for 10 years before you married her so you either felt something or you are lazy. I hope it's notr the latter.
 

CDC Mail Guy

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My wife and I went through something similar last month, Married EXACT same amout of years. You deserve to be happy. You need to be happy. There is NO other answer or advise I can give. I told my wife that I could be happy with her, or without her just as easily, and that seemed to snap her back to reality. That was back in August and we're still together, and I am happy again. Try telling her that, BE HONEST. If it doesn't work...get out. You are #1, and your happiness is all that really matters.
 
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OK - just spent the weekend with her, and we started talking. Seems like she has some expectations of me that are not realistic (me coming home before 6 - with my job) and some that are (we handle our own dry cleaning)

Oh well... we are talking... That is a start.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
OK - just spent the weekend with her, and we started talking. Seems like she has some expectations of me that are not realistic (me coming home before 6 - with my job) and some that are (we handle our own dry cleaning)

Oh well... we are talking... That is a start.

good to hear, sounds like progress
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
OK - just spent the weekend with her, and we started talking. Seems like she has some expectations of me that are not realistic (me coming home before 6 - with my job) and some that are (we handle our own dry cleaning)

Oh well... we are talking... That is a start.

For some reason this reminds me of the kenny roger's buy me a rose song. Good luck
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: zerocool1
Originally posted by: sygyzy
13 years is a long time man. I think you should try saving it.

QFT

And in another 13 years when he decides he's had enough and it's time for a divorce? That would make 26 years down the drain instead of 13. I'll never understand this "try to save it" crap. If you have to try to save the marriage, what makes it worth saving? Life is too short to make yourself suffer.
 

Tbirdkid

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Apr 16, 2002
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Yo! DA! Heres my take bro. Im alot like you in terms of behavior, and dealing with situations as we have found out via telephone convos and just general sh1t shat.

First off, is there still love in the heart for her? Or is it fear of something new that is scaring you? Second off, do you take care of yourself? Meaning, do you go to the gym, and work out and eat good foods instead of eating junk and looking at your belly every morning saying, damn i want to fix that. Third, do you feel demoralized when you are with her? Does she make you feel like you are the scum of the earth? Do you feel like you have to report to her?

Ive been with my wife for over 8 years. 4 Married and the rest living together/engaged. My relationship with my wife is great. She lives her own life, and i live mine. We meet at home, and enjoy each others company. We go out to dinner together, watch movies on the couch together, and the boodwar action is still there in full effect. We really love each other unconditionally. We have battled finances with her credit card debt in college being over 30k when she got out. A full education from William and Mary financed, which we are paying for. My education which we are paying for, and my credit card debt which was only 10k. I have a daughter outside of our marriage which puts us in pinches all the time. Conversations can be really flagrant and demeaning. But in the end, we realize that most stuff that makes us angry is stupid and irrelevant to how we feel about each other.

Relationships are hard, and they need regular maintenance every single day. The difference is whether or not the two of you are willing to work at the relationship every single day. Make time for each other, even when you are so slammed, that you cant. Remember, work is work, it isnt life, and it isnt going to kill you to screw up once in a while. People have to understand that you have a life outside of work. If they dont, then screw them. Go eat lunch with her, take her to movies, get on a plane and go to aruba for a long weekend. Get away from the grind bro. You arent on this planet to work. You are here to live and to enjoy the life you have been given. Dont waste it fighting and bickering.

Now, if she is demoralizing you, and is so cold inside that you can feel it running down your spine when you talk, its time to move on. Pick up your things, and start a new. You have family, and you have friends. You dont need someone ripping you apart when you get home at the end of the day.

Take some time for yourself. Take one day off a week plus the weekend if you have to. Go to the gym. Play flag football with some friends. Get back to normal.

Dont be afraid of the horizon. Its coming whether or not you want it to. You will wake up the next day to a rainy or a sunny day. If not, thats fine too. You spent a great one here.... and its your time to go.

Any time ya want an ear bro, hit me up. I work crazy hours, but always have time for ya.

 

Bonesdad

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Nov 18, 2002
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hmmm, 13 years, 2 bad, 11 good/acceptable. Sounds like you have an investment. 2 years doth not = deal killer.
 
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