Looks like Scrypt mining is fixed in Maxwell

[lagokc]

http://cryptomining-*********/tag/gtx-750-ti-scrypt-mining/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhSF602y9DSdHRneWVZcjJLWmhjaVBMTHVCR3l4eHc&toomany=true

750ti: 265kh/s at 60w (300kh/s with overclocking)
7750: 180kh/s at 55w

Once the big-core Maxwells arrive they should be hashing monsters. If anyone is wondering what is going to cause a price drop for the R9 290s some competition from nVidia is finally arriving.

 

[SunnyD]

Let's see...

The 750Ti's price point is what? $149.

It's hash rate is 265KH/s out of the box, ~300KH/s with overclocking.

It's direct market competitor is supposed to be the 7850/R9 265, with a price point of $149 (and can be found ~$120 retail on a good day).

It's hash rate is 300-350KH/s out of the box, ~400KH/s with overclocking.

The only advantage Nvidia might have here is thermals with that TDP. At that price point, I'm still buying AMD any day of the week.

(edit: I use the term "overclocking" very loosely when it comes to mining. It should really read "optimization", which encompasses several things not limited to but possibly including overclocking.)

 

[thilanliyan]

Good to hear. When are the big core maxwells supposed to arrive?

 

[Will Robinson]

Seems BT/Alt coin mining etc isn't "stupid" anymore...:whiste:
What an interesting development.

 

[thilanliyan]

Seems BT/Alt coin mining etc isn't "stupid" anymore...:sneaky:
What an interesting development.

Yay...one more metric we can argue endlessly about!!

 

[lagokc]

Let's see...

The 750Ti's price point is what? $149.

It's hash rate is 265KH/s out of the box, ~300KH/s with overclocking.

It's direct market competitor is supposed to be the 7850/R9 265, with a price point of $149 (and can be found ~$120 retail on a good day).

It's hash rate is 300-350KH/s out of the box, ~400KH/s with overclocking.

The only advantage Nvidia might have here is thermals with that TDP. At that price point, I'm still buying AMD any day of the week.

Hence why I said "when the big-core Maxwells arrive". A 265KH/s Maxwell that is $150 is not particularly compelling. A $400 Maxwell that can do 800KH/s at under 200 watts is and a 780ti replacement that can manage 1200KH/s certainly is.

But whether or not we will see that is up to nVidia.

 

[Stuka87]

Like SunnyD stated, you have to go off the price of the cards, not the power draw. While power draw could be important if you have a farm of cards, if you have the money for a large number of cards, you will be buying higher end cards.

But I am all for competition here in hopes of dropping prices on the R9 series.

 

[SunnyD]

Hence why I said "when the big-core Maxwells arrive". A 265KH/s Maxwell that is $150 is not particularly compelling. A $400 Maxwell that can do 800KH/s at under 200 watts is and a 780ti replacement that can manage 1200KH/s certainly is.

But whether or not we will see that is up to nVidia.

If you think a Nvidia (Maxwell) card that does 800KH/s will cost $400, I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

[f1sherman]

If you think a Nvidia (Maxwell) card that does 800KH/s will cost $400, I've got a bridge to sell you.

You are buying card that is unavailable for ~$120 retail on a good day,

and yet YOU are selling bridges?

^_^

anyway remember that is old and non-maxwell optimized CUDA miner

 

[Slomo4shO]

If you think a Nvidia (Maxwell) card that does 800KH/s will cost $400, I've got a bridge to sell you.

This. Maxwell is now competitive when comparing khash/watt, AMD still holds the khash/price crown... at least for the foreseeable future...

 

[SunnyD]

You are buying card that is unavailable for ~$120 retail on a good day,

and yet YOU are selling bridges?

^_^

The PowerColor 7850's (new, retail box) have been available regularly for $119.99 at Newegg over the last 2 months. They may not be peoples' first choice in brand, but they absolutely fit the bill.

 

[ams23]

GTX 750 Ti and R9 265 are neck and neck in LiteCoin mining hash rate: http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/Q/422846/original/Litecoin.png . Considering that 750 Ti consumes WAY less power than R7 265, is actually available today (unlike R7 265), and will sell at MSRP in the USA (unknown for R7 265, but R7 270 is way above MSRP at newegg), then the 750 Ti looks good relatively speaking.

 

[f1sherman]

This. Maxwell is now competitive when comparing khash/watt, AMD still holds the khash/price crown... at least for the foreseeable future...

that's the last thing company would actively want to hold on to; beggars crown.

also AMD MSRP prices have been moot point for quite a while. Mining craze? Hello

The PowerColor 7850's (new, retail box) have been available regularly for $119.99 at Newegg over the last 2 months.

how about today?

 

[Red Hawk]

I hope that Maxwell can be more competitive at hashing and thus bring AMD prices down. But I won't hold my breath.

 

[Slomo4shO]

GTX 750 Ti and R9 265 are neck and neck in LiteCoin mining hash rate: http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/Q/422846/original/Litecoin.png . Considering that 750 Ti consumes WAY less power than R7 265, is actually available today (unlike R7 265), and will sell at MSRP in the USA (unknown for R7 265, but R7 270 is way above MSRP at newegg), then the 750 Ti looks good relatively speaking.

The MSI R7 260X 2GD5 is currently $110 after rebate. Anyone mining on the card should have -20% power and underclocked the card to 830/1500... Those settings yield 235-245 khash at around 45W power draw...

Also, the true hash rate for a HD 7850 (R7 265) is actually between 350-400 khash...

 

[f1sherman]

The MSI R7 260X 2GD5 is currently $110 after rebate. Anyone mining on the card should have -20% power and underclocked the card to 830/1500... Those settings yield 235-245 khash at around 45W power draw...

thats quite an achievement considering stock 260X is at 129W
you sure about those numbers?

 

[ams23]

The MSI R7 260X 2GD5 is currently $110 after rebate. Anyone mining on the card should have -20% power and underclocked the card to 830/1500... Those settings yield 235-245 khash at around 45W power draw...

GTX 750 Ti will have 20% higher hash rate than 260X (see chart I linked above), all while consuming WAY less power (the 260X only consumes a little bit less power than 265). At a price point near $110-120 USD, GTX 750 (non-Ti) is arguably a better choice for LiteCoin mining than 260X.

 

[Red Hawk]

thats quite an achievement considering stock 260X is at 129W
you sure about those numbers?

You sure about that bench?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/838

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/885

On a completely unrelated note: lol at dat GTX 480, still pulling more than even the monstrous 290X and 780 Ti after all these years.

 

[ams23]

You sure about that bench?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/838

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/885

On a completely unrelated note: lol at dat GTX 480.

Anandtech measures system power consumption, whereas Tom's Hardware appears to isolate GPU power consumption. The only thing that should be reasonably comparable is the delta (difference) in consumption from one data point to another (and even that may not be totally comparable because Tom's is measuring GPGPU while Anand is measuring Furmark and Crysis 3).

 

[Erenhardt]

$200 (24% Vat incl.) 7870 950/1250MHZ@1,0V Litecoin 400KH/s 55Watt

 

[f1sherman]

You sure about that bench?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/838

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/885

On a completely unrelated note: lol at dat GTX 480, still pulling more than even the monstrous 290X and 780 Ti after all these years.

I linked TOM's bench, you are linking AT TOTAL power bench, but they don't seem to contradict each other. I don't understand...

You expect GTX 480 to pull less as time passes by?
BTW thats Furmark. In most gaming scenarios 290X wins Fermi crown easily these days. While NOT being the fastest GPU to boot

 

[nwo]

GTX 750 Ti and R9 265 are neck and neck in LiteCoin mining hash rate: http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/Q/422846/original/Litecoin.png . Considering that 750 Ti consumes WAY less power than R7 265, is actually available today (unlike R7 265), and will sell at MSRP in the USA (unknown for R7 265, but R7 270 is way above MSRP at newegg), then the 750 Ti looks good relatively speaking.

Lmfao, that is the worst and most inaccurate benchmark I have seen Tom's Hardware release to date...

A 270/270X getting ~300kH/s... that nearly made me fall out of my chair laghing my *** off!!!

As Sunny said, a 265 is a 7850 replacement. And if the 265 provides the same (scrypt) mining performance increase that 270s provided as a replacement for the 7870s, I think 265s are gonna fly off the shelves at $149 MSRP.

Both of my 7850s are capable of 420kH/s (1GB and 2GB versions), probably even a bit higher but I do not want to risk overheating or crashing since I leave them unattended.

Although for some odd reason, I was unable to ever get more than 400-410kH/s on any of my 7870s (XFX, MSI, Sapphire) :\

With that said, unless someone pays an outrageous amount for their electricity, they have no reason to even consider a 750Ti at $149 MSRP. And if that is the case, then they should consider the scrypt ASICs since they offer way better performance per watt, but are significantly more expensive.

 

[Erenhardt]

265 should be considerable faster than 7850 in mining due to big increase in memory clocks - which make the most difference. Just like 270x is hashing 10-20% faster than 7870.
How on earth 260x could do only 200kh/s is beyond me. My 7770 did more . Maybe increase intensity?

But I appreciate nv's efforts. Would love to see better pricing on amd cards ^^

 

[nwo]

GTX 750 Ti will have 20% higher hash rate than 260X (see chart I linked above), all while consuming WAY less power (the 260X only consumes a little bit less power than 265). At a price point near $110-120 USD, GTX 750 (non-Ti) is arguably a better choice for LiteCoin mining than 260X.

Let's pretend the chart is accurate...

A 260x achieves it's best hashrate when it is underclocked, while a 750Ti supposedly achieves it while overclocked. Which means there is plenty of room to undervolt the 260X card and keep it stable. So realistically, the power consumption of a 260X while mining would be around 70W which is very close to the 750Ti power consumption. Considering a 260X is significantly cheaper, it will take a while for the 750Ti to reach the break even point through electricicty savings alone.

 

[ams23]

Lmfao, that is the worst and most inaccurate benchmark I have seen Tom's Hardware release to date...

A 270/270X getting ~300kH/s... that nearly made me fall out of my chair laghing my *** off!!!

The value for hash rate that Tom's listed is irrelevant (there are obviously ways to achieve higher rates for all the cards they tested). The important thing is that 750 Ti is equal in hash rate vs R7 265, 750 Ti is 20% ahead in hash rate vs R7 260X, all while consuming WAY less power than either of them.