Looks like The Titanic killed a few more people

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coldmeat

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The last communication with the sub was that they were descending too fast. Could they have hit the floor too hard?
 

sze5003

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The last communication with the sub was that they were descending too fast. Could they have hit the floor too hard?

It would take longer than 1 hour to get to the bottom so it's possible that they descended too fast and perhaps that's why they found the feet of the sub in the debri.

Or they collided with something on the way down, no one knows or will ever know unfortunately.
 

amenx

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Debris field' discovered in search for Titanic sub contains its 'rear cover and landing frame' which indicates 'catastrophic implosion', friend of missing British explorer reveals

 

pcgeek11

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it does not need to be a massive hull failure. It would just as likely to spring a leak. it would take a while to fill with water and pressure but the result is the same, but no big bang to hear on the hydrophones.

I'm no expert, but with the craft we're talking about and the depth/pressure involved, any hull compromise is likely to be almost instantly catastrophic.
There is no such thing as a "springing a leak" on a submerged submarine at those pressures.

I saw a Zerk Fitting break off on a internal to external hull greasing manifold at 300 feet. It is amazing what a dumb ass NUB can do with a grease gun.

You would be surprised how much water can come through a 1/4 inch grease line @ 300 Ft. in the 30 seconds or so it took to locate and isolate the leak.
 
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They are one with the ocean now.

Rest in pieces (and defecated feces).

At least, their organic matter will get recycled more quickly than if they were buried.
 

sze5003

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The crew were dead before they could even say "oh crap". At 400 times the pressure at sea level, it takes literally milliseconds for implosion to happen. They may have heard a faint pop or similar sound but they probably all perished as soon as that sound happened.
 
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skyking

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From what we've seen so far, this is comforting news. Everyone asked about how long the people were awake and aware when the space shuttles burned up or exploded. In both cases, the chances were they had time to think about what was going on.
This is a lot more merciful.
 

skyking

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There is no such thing as a "springing a leak" on a submerged submarine at those pressures.

I saw a Zerk Fitting break off on a internal to external hull greasing manifold at 300 feet. It is amazing what a dumb ass NUB can do with a grease gun.

You would be surprised how much water can come through a 1/4 inch grease line @ 300 Ft. in the 30 seconds or so it took to locate and isolate the leak.
No really I wouldn't be surprised. I know what a 6,000 PSI pressure washer does.
That's a really small hole like a 1/8 in .
I was describing this as being a range of time. A straight up implosion is a fraction of a second.
A 6,000 psi leak might take half a minute to exceed the pressure you could survive.
This sounds much more like the former now.
It made easier to find.
 

sze5003

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I think the implosion happened shortly at the 1hr 30 min mark after they lost comms. The mother ship probably thought nothing of it as time went on because in previous expeditions the sub would always lose contact with communication.

It's like this CEO didn't use common science hypothesis and testing at all designing this thing. The viewport window and hull didn't get any stress testing. It had done dives previously so you have to take into account wear and tear.

I feel bad for that 19 year old kid and his mother.
 

sdifox

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I believe that because the curved CF hull is "stressed" using a normal drill would cause the hull to crack/splinter.
Again, the premise was there was no way to extract the people from the sub at sea level unless it is hauled out of water. And I just said you can drill air hole and wait for ship. Even if you crack the vessel open they can wait for rescue.
 
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hal2kilo

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I think the implosion happened shortly at the 1hr 30 min mark after they lost comms. The mother ship probably thought nothing of it as time went on because in previous expeditions the sub would always lose contact with communication.

It's like this CEO didn't use common science hypothesis and testing at all designing this thing. The viewport window and hull didn't get any stress testing. It had done dives previously so you have to take into account wear and tear.

I feel bad for that 19 year old kid and his mother.
I saw an interview with Josh Gates (Unexplored, ect.). They tried to set up a shoot with these people back in 2019. They had all kinds of problems, they backed out of doing the shoot because they couldn't rely on them to set up a schedule.
 

Captante

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Again, the premise was there was no way to extract the people from the sub at sea level unless it is hauled out of water. And I just said you can drill air hole and wait for ship. Even if you crack the vessel open they can wait for rescue.

Yes but by "crack" I'm talking splitting wide open and sinking not just a small leaking hole.

Anyway pure speculation on my part ... not like I'm any kind of expert.
 

skyking

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Perhaps the positive outcome of this would be some sort of standardization of an emergency locating system or buoy to help out would be rescuers.
Even if it released something that only had a 10,000 foot tether and positive buoyancy, it would be much easier to find.
 

amenx

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I think this whole thing happened because the CEO was a tight-ass with money and wanted to reduce costs as much as possible.
 
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DigDog

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The crew were dead before they could even say "oh crap". At 400 times the pressure at sea level, it takes literally milliseconds for implosion to happen. They may have heard a faint pop or similar sound but they probably all perished as soon as that sound happened.
this somehow reminds me of an explanation i saw in a video about the asteroid that hit the yucatan 66m years ago and wiped away the dinosaurs; specifically how in movies you would see the slow, gigantic explosion in the distance, while in reality is more like "lovely summer morning, blink eyes - pulverized".
the thermal energy from the impact travels at the speed of light, a vast portion of life on earth was incinerated before they notice anything.
 
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