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Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Ah, so it isn’t a woman problem or submarine culture problem; it is a professionalism problem. Let’s blame the women for men’s unprofessional behavior? That is Bullshit. Men can’t keep it in their pants on subs so women can’t serve on them. That is some serious Bullshit. How about we have the men take impotency drugs while serving on submarine then. Keep them nice and professional.

I call bullshit on your political correctness nonsense, that shit works both ways. This was also a question of ruined culture; not professionalism.
Close, commanders can't keep their people in line and can't figure out how to get men and women to work with each other without fucking. I wonder how the AF has done it all this time.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Close, commanders can't keep their people in line and can't figure out how to get men and women to work with each other without fucking. I wonder how the AF has done it all this time.
Mostly it's that the air force operates from bases where medical facilities are available so being pregnant is less of an issue.

Men and women stationed together are going to have sex, and women are going to get pregnant. I fully support women serving in the armed forces and I think the idea of a bro culture on subs is not something that needs to be or should be maintained, but women getting pregnant is a genuine readiness issue.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Yes, da women should be in da kitchen and amaking da babies … they can’t be on submarines because they magically make men act bad you see. Women are responsible for men’s bad behavior so it is their fault for blinking, we all know women who blink are flirting and coming onto men and are demanding to be ravaged. 🙄

I never said anything close to that and you know it.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Mostly it's that the air force operates from bases where medical facilities are available so being pregnant is less of an issue.

Men and women stationed together are going to have sex, and women are going to get pregnant. I fully support women serving in the armed forces and I think the idea of a bro culture on subs is not something that needs to be or should be maintained, but women getting pregnant is a genuine readiness issue.
Yep. Once they can't go out to sea they end up in shore duty at places like maintenance facilities.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I never said anything close to that and you know it.

obviously no one knows that until you explain your "Secret reasons." Until then, we're left to make the best suppositions possible about your intent from the countless evidence contained within your extensive posting history, and you know it.

The analysis here is probably about 93% accurate.
 

APU_Fusion

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This whole discussion was about PCGeek stating women ruined sub culture. That is not the same statement as women and men shouldn’t share sub duty because they can’t be professional or the space needed for separate birthing. Cutler does not equal professionalism in my opinion. I found PCGeek’s statement disgusting as I do most of his statements. 😜
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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I find it funny how all of you people that have never served in the military or esp on a Submarine can make definitive statements about what the crew should or shouldn't be composed of.

I have served on surface ships with women and have years at sea on Submarines and my opinion is called wrong.

It'll be great to have a mixed crew of a Sub have a loss of the freshwater evaporator or still for a few weeks while on an alert status. Same for when you lose a large part of the AC System and have to shut it down for repairs at sea.

Got any idea how hot it gets on an operational Submarine over the course of a few days or what its like to go without washing your self or cloths for three weeks? You can't surface to cool off or take a salty bath when on alert covering targets.

I do.

Your opinions are based on nothing. Mine are based on facts and living it for many years.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Yep. Once they can't go out to sea they end up in shore duty at places like maintenance facilities.

Yes I remember the days when a male couldn't get his earned shore duty assignment because all the shore facility billets were taken. It used to be a 5 year sea then 3 years shore rotation. The female counterparts couldn't go to sea because ... So the poor sap just had to stay on a sea going billet for another few years.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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obviously no one knows that until you explain your "Secret reasons." Until then, we're left to make the best suppositions possible about your intent from the countless evidence contained within your extensive posting history, and you know it.

The analysis here is probably about 93% accurate.


As if you had any inkling about what goes on in the military of any branch and specifically on a Submarine.

And your analysis sucks and is based 100% on pure ignorance.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I find it funny how all of you people that have never served in the military or esp on a Submarine can make definitive statements about what the crew should or shouldn't be composed of.

I have served on surface ships with women and have years at sea on Submarines and my opinion is called wrong.

It'll be great to have a mixed crew of a Sub have a loss of the freshwater evaporator or still for a few weeks while on an alert status. Same for when you lose a large part of the AC System and have to shut it down for repairs at sea.

Got any idea how hot it gets on an operational Submarine over the course of a few days or what its like to go without washing your self or cloths for three weeks? You can't surface to cool off or take a salty bath when on alert covering targets.

I do.

Your opinions are based on nothing. Mine are based on facts and living it for many years.

so this seams close to the first actual reason you have given, and it's basically: because everything stinks and I don't want the ladies smelling my sweaty taint.

that the sum of it?

I mean, it's a start!
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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As if you had any inkling about what goes on in the military of any branch and specifically on a Submarine.

And your analysis sucks and is based 100% on pure ignorance.

apropos of nothing because that wasn't the point of that particular post of mine, but carry on. You will continue to interpret the world as you wish, I suppose.
 
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