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[Smartazz]

thanks, I can't view it now, I'll check it out when I get home.

 

[ZoomStop]

The Philadelphia Experiment ranks right up there with how we never landed on the moon and Oswald working for LBJ. Rubbish.
The closest that the Philadelphia Experiment ever came to reality was in a crappy movie in the 80's

 

[ThePresence]

Awesome episode. Lost is regaining it's appeal.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
wtf ... can we get more info on this philadelphia experiment it sounds crazy!

yea screw lost, i want to know more about this

edit: nvm

 

[flashbacck]

Originally posted by: iamme
oh, and fake-Henry telling Locke that NOTHING HAPPENED when the timer went down to zero!! holy crap. he also hinted that the "bearded guy" was nothing, implying there was a higher being. he said the hatch and everything was a "joke".

which leads you to wonder....how come Henry didn't know that nothing would happen when the timer hit zero? is it possible that even the Others are within an experiment being held by someone else??

OTOH, Henry might be a "lower" person within the Others and he just might not have known about it.

I wonder if the "He" that Henry was referring to is God or Satan. You notice later Henry was babbling about God not knowing anything about the island.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Just curious, you know how Henry said "He/Him" and then in the Claire episode the bearded guy said "Him" and stuff. Do you think in episode 2, when Desmond saw lock and asked "Are you him?" he really meant THIS him they keep talking about? I always assumed his replacement, but maybe desmond was waiting for this other "him"?

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
My theory:

1. That base is a "Philadelphia Experiment" thingy, and the island is "out of phase". (why nobody can find them after the crash)
2. The fake Gale said he didn't enter the sequence and let it go to zero; the island was visible for the air drop. ...OR...
He did enter the numbers but he lied in order to make them think nothing will happen, and the others need it to stop in order for SOMETHING to happen that they want. (what that is, I don't know. Maybe they have a hard time seeing that part of the island when it's on, maybe they are the black cloud - out of phase people venturing in - and that's why they didn't mess with the Brute Squad guy in that one episode, maybe...)
3. Libby was in the hospital with Hurley, and it doesn't require some huge twist. Remember that the original guy pushing the 108 minute button knew the Doc IRL before the crash.
4. I love this show.

2. Then why would he enter the numbers in the first place?

 

[EvilYoda]

I just watched the episode now...and I agree, one of the best episodes in quite some time now. Last week's action was perfect when combined with the new theories generated by this week's developements.

 

[TechnoPro]

Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

 

[Vin0134]

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

Well Hurley had said before Libby looked familiar to him. Also, they were both in a mental institution and Hurley had a make-believe friend. Instantly recognizing the other person would be a bit hard.

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: Vin0134

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

Well Hurley had said before Libby looked familiar to him. Also, they were both in a mental institution and Hurley had a make-believe friend. Instantly recognizing the other person would be a bit hard.

Also, maybe she recognizes him but is lying. In theory, she could be a crazed stalker after his money.

 

[Smartazz]

Next week looks intense.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
The most interesting theory about the Philadelphia Experiment is that the destroyer did in fact disappear and was teleported across space and time. Supposedly, there was a great number of ingenious scientists (including Tesla and Einstein) that were taking part in the experiment. However, Nikola Tesla was supposed to dead at the time of the Naval experiment.

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting.

? It was just a movie though, they never really did that I thought?

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Vin0134

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

Well Hurley had said before Libby looked familiar to him. Also, they were both in a mental institution and Hurley had a make-believe friend. Instantly recognizing the other person would be a bit hard.

Also, maybe she recognizes him but is lying. In theory, she could be a crazed stalker after his money.

I almost wonder that myself. She knew him in the Hosp, then he came back after he was rich to talk to the numbers guy, she prolly found out about the money, that's why she's all into him on the island and stuff

 

[Schwan]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Vin0134

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

Well Hurley had said before Libby looked familiar to him. Also, they were both in a mental institution and Hurley had a make-believe friend. Instantly recognizing the other person would be a bit hard.

Also, maybe she recognizes him but is lying. In theory, she could be a crazed stalker after his money.

I almost wonder that myself. She knew him in the Hosp, then he came back after he was rich to talk to the numbers guy, she prolly found out about the money, that's why she's all into him on the island and stuff

Maybe she's a stalker and followed him to Australia.

 

[mezrah]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Just curious, you know how Henry said "He/Him" and then in the Claire episode the bearded guy said "Him" and stuff. Do you think in episode 2, when Desmond saw lock and asked "Are you him?" he really meant THIS him they keep talking about? I always assumed his replacement, but maybe desmond was waiting for this other "him"?

You may be onto something with that...good observation

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: mezrah

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Just curious, you know how Henry said "He/Him" and then in the Claire episode the bearded guy said "Him" and stuff. Do you think in episode 2, when Desmond saw lock and asked "Are you him?" he really meant THIS him they keep talking about? I always assumed his replacement, but maybe desmond was waiting for this other "him"?

You may be onto something with that...good observation

Actually I find the whole (alck of Desmond) mentioning weird. He's never been brought up since his departure... He has to be "more".

 

[Homerboy]

My other observation/suggestion with Henry is that he certainly seemed disallusioned after everything happened... like his beliefs/ideals etc had been pulled out from under him based on the events that happened. Like he pretty much had given up and everything he and the others were doing or believed in was all in vain and wrong or something along those lines....

or he could just be taking them further down the rabbit hole.

 

[creedog]

Originally posted by: Schwan

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Vin0134

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any plausible theories that could explain the last shot with Libby in the mental hospital? Granted, there are a myriad of connections among and between the different "Losties", but how could neither Hurley nor Libby recognize one another from the institution?

Well Hurley had said before Libby looked familiar to him. Also, they were both in a mental institution and Hurley had a make-believe friend. Instantly recognizing the other person would be a bit hard.

Also, maybe she recognizes him but is lying. In theory, she could be a crazed stalker after his money.

I almost wonder that myself. She knew him in the Hosp, then he came back after he was rich to talk to the numbers guy, she prolly found out about the money, that's why she's all into him on the island and stuff

Maybe she's a stalker and followed him to Australia.

I figured that this was pretty much a given. Why else would she be so into him, and why else would she have been on the plane. Plus you can tell by the look on her face in the last shot of this weeks episode that she is up to something.

She is also going around telling people that she is a psychoanalyst.

 

[bluestrobe]

If the Hurley imagnation theory is the path then this reminds me of another "St. Elsewhere" TV series. I doubt it though. The writters have to realize not everyone will remember the 100+ plot lines running in a single show and stuff at the end won't make sense to most viewers. Just a thought.

Also the last episode was the best but I just started watching it this season.

 

[TripleAAA]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: mezrah

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Just curious, you know how Henry said "He/Him" and then in the Claire episode the bearded guy said "Him" and stuff. Do you think in episode 2, when Desmond saw lock and asked "Are you him?" he really meant THIS him they keep talking about? I always assumed his replacement, but maybe desmond was waiting for this other "him"?

You may be onto something with that...good observation

Actually I find the whole (alck of Desmond) mentioning weird. He's never been brought up since his departure... He has to be "more".

What was up with the injection gun in first episode of the second season? And, you'd think Jack would have wanted to know what was in those vials. I know it probably has something to do with the supposed "virus", but did they really make that clear?

 

[tnilC]

I still firmly believe that the island is Purgatory. Yes yes, the writers have said no to this theory again and again but honestly what do you expect them to say? Each person on the island has vice of some sort; Jack has a problem with Faith, Sawyer is a Thief, Kate is a criminal of some sort, Jin is a hitman, Hurly is a Glutton, Sayid tortures people etc etc etc... After this last episode with "Henry" talking about his fear of "Him" (Satan IMO) and how he implies that they have no idea whats at play and its far more sinister than anything they could imagine, it just seems to jive with me. I think the Others are either Demons of a sort or they are just people who are stuck in Purgatory/Limbo because they refuse to learn whatever lesson they are supposed to learn to get into Heaven.

 

[HomeAppraiser]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Philadelphia Experiment...

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting.

I had heard the theory but never saw the movie. After reading the recap above I remembered a Star Trek The Next Generation episode "The Pegasus" where the Enterprise searches for the ship that Cmdr Riker served on 12 years ago. It had been an experiment in phase shift cloaking gone wrong and they find the Pegasus fused inside a hollow asteroid. Riker's first commanding officer Captain, now Admiral Pressman is involved in a Starfleet cover-up of the phase shifting cloak technology which the Federation is forbidden to have in accordance with the Romulan treaty. An interesting note Admiral Pressman was played by Terry O'Quinn.