they've already shown cameras in the hatch. they could've been watched since they first found it...
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
What I can't figure out is how the others knew Sawyer's real name. Either they knew in advance he was coming, or they engineered the crash as a means to attract certain people, Sawyer included, for an experiment, or whatever. The back stories would seem to illustrate that everybody had some connection to one another, in some giant mesh of sorts. But what exactly could orchestrate them all to be on the same plane at the same time?
It can go either way. Since the others have cameras in the hatches, who knows if there are more around? On the way to find Michael the first time, is when Locke called Sawyer James Ford. So maybe they heard that. Not sure though. Only 6 more days 'til we find out why the plane crashed at least.
I can't remember when Locke called Sawyer by his real name, but I'll take your word for it. Assuming that cameras are everywhere, the observers/others would hear that Sawyer is called Sawyer by everyone. Indeed, 6 more days...
Yeah it was in Episode 11 (Hunting party). But I concur, why would they use that name if they know he is known as, and goes by, Swayer? Unless they wanted Michael to know they know more than he does. I'm hoping they knew his real name because they knew he was coming, or something along those lines.
I can not wait 'til wednesday!
What about the flight manifest ? Could they have gotten it some how ?
They could have, but the manifest wouldn't say "James Ford, AKA Swayer". Locke figured it out since he knew everyone else and stuff. But this is interesting to see how they know his name.
Originally posted by: Injury
okay, this may be a stretch, but....
What if libby was one of the "others"?
Yeah, I know, she was seen in a flashback a few weeks ago at the airport, but I'd assume the others can get off the island if they need to. She's a freaking psychologist/Psychiatrist, right? Aren't they doing experiments like that on this island? (supposidly). If Hugo's (Hurley's) name was on Micheal's list, would that make sense as to why Libby would be giving a crap about his fat face? Maybe she was in the same institute as hurley to OBSERVE him under everyone's nose. It doesn't make sense that she looked bonkers there, then was perfectly fine only a few years later.
It's been a while since I've seen the first tailies episode, but I don't recall her being very distraught after a plane crash.
That could explain why she wasn't given a backstory.
Originally posted by: everman
If the whole point of them being on the island is to get at these few people, then they wouldn't risk crashing the plane and killing the people they want.
The plane never crashed, it's all a set-up.
finallyOriginally posted by: FreshPrince
just watched it...
Umm, no one knows that dude.what's/who's behind that guarded hatch?
Lock appears to be loosing fiath in the island. Echo seems to believe in the island and it's "powers" more than anyone at this point. So, maybe. Lock is having a "test of faith" in my opinion. Kinda using his own words to prove this point.echo is the new locke?
Someone else raised this point at work. We'll call him ....... Jeff. Myself and one other person thought that Jeff is not correct on this matter. But, atleast one person thinks what you think. If we know one thing from this show ..... don't anticipate it one way or the other. Just enjoy the ride. Only the producers know if Walt has been "comprimised"does it seem like walt was acting in front of michael. he did not seem like a child who was kidnapped. seems like the others turned him.
the boat is for michael?
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
finallyOriginally posted by: FreshPrince
just watched it...
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: everman
If the whole point of them being on the island is to get at these few people, then they wouldn't risk crashing the plane and killing the people they want.
The plane never crashed, it's all a set-up.
If it didn't crash, then how were they injured, how did the people die.
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: everman
If the whole point of them being on the island is to get at these few people, then they wouldn't risk crashing the plane and killing the people they want.
The plane never crashed, it's all a set-up.
If it didn't crash, then how were they injured, how did the people die.
They were murdered. I don't think the Hanso Foundation is above murder, considering everything else they do.
There was no flight, they were all kidnapped, hypnotized into thinking they were on a plane, and it was all set up. The dead people were all murdered and thrown into the water along with the live ones for the experiment.
Everything is where it is for a very specific reason, nothing was left to random chance.
/my crazy theory
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: everman
If the whole point of them being on the island is to get at these few people, then they wouldn't risk crashing the plane and killing the people they want.
The plane never crashed, it's all a set-up.
If it didn't crash, then how were they injured, how did the people die.
They were murdered. I don't think the Hanso Foundation is above murder, considering everything else they do.
There was no flight, they were all kidnapped, hypnotized into thinking they were on a plane, and it was all set up. The dead people were all murdered and thrown into the water along with the live ones for the experiment.
Everything is where it is for a very specific reason, nothing was left to random chance.
/my crazy theory
Was it Libby that "rembmered" the plane crash or was that het girl that had the baby?
Anyways .. oen of hte two said this and they never did a flashback to sehow what they saw....
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: everman
If the whole point of them being on the island is to get at these few people, then they wouldn't risk crashing the plane and killing the people they want.
The plane never crashed, it's all a set-up.
If it didn't crash, then how were they injured, how did the people die.
They were murdered. I don't think the Hanso Foundation is above murder, considering everything else they do.
There was no flight, they were all kidnapped, hypnotized into thinking they were on a plane, and it was all set up. The dead people were all murdered and thrown into the water along with the live ones for the experiment.
Everything is where it is for a very specific reason, nothing was left to random chance.
/my crazy theory
Was it Libby that "rembmered" the plane crash or was that het girl that had the baby?
Anyways .. oen of hte two said this and they never did a flashback to sehow what they saw....
Then you would have to wonder why & how the plane crashed is mentioned in the season finale.
If you know the answer to that, you know the answer to alot of things.Originally posted by: FreshPrince
why do the others want:
Jack
Kate
Hugo &
Sawyer
???
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
everman, although that point has been brought up a lot, I think it's only a 5% chance that that is the case.
First off, Kate said in season 1, she was awake the entire crash. A lot of people got knocked out, but she didn't. She talked about it to Jack. I highly doubt she is "in on it" and lying.
And 2nd, in the other 48 days, they showed the tail end crash right into the ocean, with parts flying all over. So unless they staged half, and just threw a tail end into the water filled with people for the hell of it, I don't think it was staged.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
everman, although that point has been brought up a lot, I think it's only a 5% chance that that is the case.
First off, Kate said in season 1, she was awake the entire crash. A lot of people got knocked out, but she didn't. She talked about it to Jack. I highly doubt she is "in on it" and lying.
And 2nd, in the other 48 days, they showed the tail end crash right into the ocean, with parts flying all over. So unless they staged half, and just threw a tail end into the water filled with people for the hell of it, I don't think it was staged.
Not only that, but why would they have to have Ethan infiltrate the group on the island if they could've put him on the plane to begin with?
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Originally posted by: iamme
btw, did anyone else think that Hurley knew Michael had killed Libby when he glared at Michael after his eulogy???
instead he said he was coming too, but i totally thought that Hurley somehow knew.
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: Injury
okay, this may be a stretch, but....
What if libby was one of the "others"?
Yeah, I know, she was seen in a flashback a few weeks ago at the airport, but I'd assume the others can get off the island if they need to. She's a freaking psychologist/Psychiatrist, right? Aren't they doing experiments like that on this island? (supposidly). If Hugo's (Hurley's) name was on Micheal's list, would that make sense as to why Libby would be giving a crap about his fat face? Maybe she was in the same institute as hurley to OBSERVE him under everyone's nose. It doesn't make sense that she looked bonkers there, then was perfectly fine only a few years later.
It's been a while since I've seen the first tailies episode, but I don't recall her being very distraught after a plane crash.
That could explain why she wasn't given a backstory.
She is in desmonds back story. They are going to tell her backstory via desmonds backstory. For a spoiler, check the cast call