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randomlinh

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Injury
I meant to say "I DON'T think he's behind it all."

Thinking about it more, it's likely that the whole island is some company's dirty little secret, and Des's GF's dad thought it would be a good way to get rid of Desmond... to just stick him out there and watch what happens.

But if he knows about it, he's gotta be in on it SOMEHOW.

yeah, that's what I was thinking. No way the gf's dad would fund the project in whole... there are tooo many coincidences. which brings me to the "reason" the plane crashed. With all these coincidences, having desmond's magnet pull the plane down is toooo simple. either we're going to end w/ "this is a huge elaborate scheme" or it really is all "fate."

my BIGGEST gripe so far is an explanation for the black smoke.... and the damn polar bears!
 

UpgradeFailure

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Feb 29, 2004
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What was the point of Kelvin painting that map invisible? It was just him and Desmond down there, why did it matter? Did he know they were watched? Or did he not want Desmond to know the layout of the island?
 

dr150

Diamond Member
Sep 18, 2003
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The statue of the four digit Toe, shows that this Island was inhabited by some ancient civilization......and very advanced presuming that foot could of belonged to a ginormous statue. Thoughts of Atlantis crossed my mind.....
 

everman

Lifer
Nov 5, 2002
11,288
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How far can that little boat travel on a full load of fuel? I think they would have to be relatively close to something, although a shipping lane would do just fine to get them rescued.
 

flashbacck

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Aug 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: dr150
The statue of the four digit Toe, shows that this Island was inhabited by some ancient civilization......and very advanced presuming that foot could of belonged to a ginormous statue. Thoughts of Atlantis crossed my mind.....

Not necessary advanced. The Colossus on Rhodes was built around 300 BC and was the size of the statue of liberty.
 

LanceM

Senior member
Mar 13, 2004
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Hey, what were the names of the employees in the original training video. There was a dark-haired man with beard, and a woman. I'm not sure, but I think their names were mentioned.

EDIT: Gerald and Karen DeGroot
 

aswedc

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2000
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Just saw it :thumbsup:. I can't even think right now...so much stuff going on. Definitely going to have to watch it all again.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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This is what I think happened.

I think when Desmond turned that key, it sent a massive OPPOSITE magnetic force as it destroyed the huge magnetical force. I don't think anything actually blew up and made a huge explosion. That would explain why that metal hatch door flew all the way to the beach.

I also think that Desmond's girl Penelope was trying to get a signal on his boat, but the magnetic force from the island was making his boat's signal not come up on any radars or anything, and as soon as the magnetic force was destroyed, the boat signal was found after it was destroyed.

I also think that the reason Desmond ended up back on the island after sailing for 2 weeks was simply because of the magnetic force scewing up the compass. He said he kept sailing west. If the compass was getting screwed up, west could have changed into east without him really knowing since he was just following west on his compass, although the magnetic force was slowly changing the compass.

I also think that Michael will be fine because I think there is one direction you can go that the magnetic force won't screw with the compass direction. And I think the reason that people can't find the island is because directions get all screwed up from the magnetic force.

I also think they let Hurley go because Libby told the others (going on the speculation that she is one of the others) that he was a good guy and she liked him.
 

UpgradeFailure

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
This is what I think happened.

I think when Desmond turned that key, it sent a massive OPPOSITE magnetic force as it destroyed the huge magnetical force. I don't think anything actually blew up and made a huge explosion. That would explain why that metal hatch door flew all the way to the beach.

I also think that Desmond's girl Penelope was trying to get a signal on his boat, but the magnetic force from the island was making his boat's signal not come up on any radars or anything, and as soon as the magnetic force was destroyed, the boat signal was found after it was destroyed.

I concur with you on the Opposite magnetic force. That was my thought too. I tried to explain it to my friend and I was saying how like the hatch door was being pulled in with a rubber band, then forced out, that's why it flew up. An opposite force pushed it.

But I don't think that's right about Penny finding a boat signal. If you saw the computer screen at that snow research place, the compute said Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected. That has nothing to do with a boat signal. They were looking for that Magnetic power, not a boat.


 

elkinm

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Jun 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: purbeast0
This is what I think happened.

I think when Desmond turned that key, it sent a massive OPPOSITE magnetic force as it destroyed the huge magnetical force. I don't think anything actually blew up and made a huge explosion. That would explain why that metal hatch door flew all the way to the beach.

I also think that Desmond's girl Penelope was trying to get a signal on his boat, but the magnetic force from the island was making his boat's signal not come up on any radars or anything, and as soon as the magnetic force was destroyed, the boat signal was found after it was destroyed.

I concur with you on the Opposite magnetic force. That was my thought too. I tried to explain it to my friend and I was saying how like the hatch door was being pulled in with a rubber band, then forced out, that's why it flew up. An opposite force pushed it.

But I don't think that's right about Penny finding a boat signal. If you saw the computer screen at that snow research place, the compute said Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected. That has nothing to do with a boat signal. They were looking for that Magnetic power, not a boat.

I although thought they were looking for the boat, by I saw my downloaded HD copy today and it clearly shows Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected. Amazing how much better the downloads are then regular broadcasts. Which is strange as how would the know that they found Desmond with the anomaly, does her father really have connections with Drama and the island?

The inverse magnetic field gets me. The hatch is simply metal and regardless of the field polarity it should always be attracted to the magnet. Now if it was being crushed into the hatch, where the hatch, resisting the crushing, is like a mega spring then maybe it spring-ed up the hatch when the magnetic field was disabled.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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LOST prediction--Season 3 premiere will give Libby's backstory while explaining what happens next. I really think Libby is a lot more involved than her death would lead us to believe. I agree with others who've said she was "recruiting", because I don't know how else she ended up in the insane asylum.

One possibility--I think maybe she might've had a breakdown after Desmond got lost...and not just because of her husband's death. Desmond's been on the island for 3 years prior to the plane crash. Hurley was in the asylum around the same time...I'm assuming he only got out a year before the crash, then played "the numbers" in the lottery, and shortly after made the trip to Australia. If that's correct, it means Libby was in the asylum AFTER she met Desmond. Meaning she was either continuing her "recruitment", or sincerely bonkers after Desmond got lost.

Either way, I can't imagine the Season premiere beginning with anyone else's backstory--except maybe Russo or one of "the Others" themselves.
 

UpgradeFailure

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: elkinm
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: purbeast0
This is what I think happened.

I think when Desmond turned that key, it sent a massive OPPOSITE magnetic force as it destroyed the huge magnetical force. I don't think anything actually blew up and made a huge explosion. That would explain why that metal hatch door flew all the way to the beach.

I also think that Desmond's girl Penelope was trying to get a signal on his boat, but the magnetic force from the island was making his boat's signal not come up on any radars or anything, and as soon as the magnetic force was destroyed, the boat signal was found after it was destroyed.

I concur with you on the Opposite magnetic force. That was my thought too. I tried to explain it to my friend and I was saying how like the hatch door was being pulled in with a rubber band, then forced out, that's why it flew up. An opposite force pushed it.

But I don't think that's right about Penny finding a boat signal. If you saw the computer screen at that snow research place, the compute said Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected. That has nothing to do with a boat signal. They were looking for that Magnetic power, not a boat.

I although thought they were looking for the boat, by I saw my downloaded HD copy today and it clearly shows Electromagnetic Anomaly Detected. Amazing how much better the downloads are then regular broadcasts. Which is strange as how would the know that they found Desmond with the anomaly, does her father really have connections with Drama and the island?

The inverse magnetic field gets me. The hatch is simply metal and regardless of the field polarity it should always be attracted to the magnet. Now if it was being crushed into the hatch, where the hatch, resisting the crushing, is like a mega spring then maybe it spring-ed up the hatch when the magnetic field was disabled.

I can picture the hatch door trying to get sucked down into the doorway, but it couldn't, so once the reverse blast came thru it went shooting up. It isn't like the pull just stopped, we are thinking that it isn't pulling anymore, but now pushing.
 

aswedc

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2000
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An interesting thing I read on another forum and don't think has been posted here...

Desmond: "What was your husbands name?"
Libby: "David"

Why ask that question? Why reuse the name? Especially since Hurley and Libby are linked at the asylum. There is no way this is a coincidence!
 

Furyline

Golden Member
Nov 1, 2001
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The problem I have with the idea of people (Libby or whoever) 'recruiting' everyone to be on this plane. Because the plane crash was just random, how would these conspirators know that desmond would not push the button on that one day? It just doesn't make sense to me.

It seems like with all the coincidences in the flashbacks, the plane crash was more than a coincidence. I don't know it's confusing to me.
 

everman

Lifer
Nov 5, 2002
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There's no way an experienced sailor like Desmond wouldn't be able to get away from the island even if his compass didn't work, he surely would know how to navigate by the stars to some degree, even rudimentry knowledge. Even if he didn't, he could manage to go in a straight line away from the island.

But he couldn't. He always ended up back at the island. This makes me think of something explained by a warp in space-time, or something like that. Perhaps the whole experiment was really about how to stealth an island, such as a military installation. The ultimate stealth, completely in another dimension of its own, untouchable. Nothing gets in or out unless you want it to.
 

mzkhadir

Diamond Member
Mar 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: Smartazz
Anyone understand what the failsafe was?

I think failsafe released all the energy built up. I think it also turned off the project.
 
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