Originally posted by: darkeneddays
I love the show, but the more I watch it the more I am convinced that the writers have no idea where they are going with the story. It seems like each season they map out a few hundred "wtf" moments and answer maybe a few questions. It feels like they have no ending thought out, so they keep packing various questions in week after week to keep people watching. I can't help but believe that at some point people are going to get tired of not getting they answers they want and just stop watching.
Also, since this is a seasonal TV show, I'm sure they are going to keep stringing it along for however long it takes until it gets cancelled, regardless of whethere they have an ending in mind.
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I understand your point darken, but seems I heard that it's only supposed to last 3 or 4 seasons, and is already written, but I could be wrong. Perhaps they had a beginning and an end written and are just fleshing it out as they go.
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
was it me or did henry/ben's eyes go black at the end of the episode?
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Is it just me or is that the island they used in Far Cry? It looks identical, all the fencing and concrete, and of coarse beautiful scenery.
Oh and I'm always excited when it starts, and mad when it ends, glad to see this ep is still the same. I hate TV but this show is great.
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
So, my friend had a nice thought about the new revelations...perhaps that's where the polar bear came from. We have cages for Sawyer, and a table for dolphins/sharks...where does the polar bear fit in?
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
So, my friend had a nice thought about the new revelations...perhaps that's where the polar bear came from. We have cages for Sawyer, and a table for dolphins/sharks...where does the polar bear fit in?
You know I didn't think about that at all ...
The one guy did sell Sawyer that the bears figured it out in 2 hours, then Sawyer asked how many bears there were and the guy didnt answer. There were probably 1 polar bear in each cage. Also remember how Sawyer had to stretch to push all the buttons at once? Well a bear is much bigger than sawyer and could have reached all 3 directions at once possibly.
Also when jack said it was an aquarium he was in. I forgot about the Shark we saw with the Dharma logo on it until I read EvilYoda's post right there. Perhaps that's where the shark originated?
My new theory - The plane's explosion (or the magnetic pull actually that we saw Desmond cause last season causing the plane to crash) caused an earthquake (as we saw at the beginning of this show), and that explosion caused all of the cages/tanks holding the animals they had in captivity free. And now the "others" are pissed at them for freeing their animals which they were experimenting with.
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
So, my friend had a nice thought about the new revelations...perhaps that's where the polar bear came from. We have cages for Sawyer, and a table for dolphins/sharks...where does the polar bear fit in?
You know I didn't think about that at all ...
The one guy did sell Sawyer that the bears figured it out in 2 hours, then Sawyer asked how many bears there were and the guy didnt answer. There were probably 1 polar bear in each cage. Also remember how Sawyer had to stretch to push all the buttons at once? Well a bear is much bigger than sawyer and could have reached all 3 directions at once possibly.
Also when jack said it was an aquarium he was in. I forgot about the Shark we saw with the Dharma logo on it until I read EvilYoda's post right there. Perhaps that's where the shark originated?
My new theory - The plane's explosion (or the magnetic pull actually that we saw Desmond cause last season causing the plane to crash) caused an earthquake (as we saw at the beginning of this show), and that explosion caused all of the cages/tanks holding the animals they had in captivity free. And now the "others" are pissed at them for freeing their animals which they were experimenting with.
Originally posted by: MrLee
No I might be wrong, but I thought I heard Ben say "shouldnt the host pick the book.." and the woman replied "I am the host (not hostess but whatever), so I picked this book..." This leads to believe that they are both the hosts of that meeting, as in they are married and live with each other.
Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
So, my friend had a nice thought about the new revelations...perhaps that's where the polar bear came from. We have cages for Sawyer, and a table for dolphins/sharks...where does the polar bear fit in?
You know I didn't think about that at all ...
The one guy did sell Sawyer that the bears figured it out in 2 hours, then Sawyer asked how many bears there were and the guy didnt answer. There were probably 1 polar bear in each cage. Also remember how Sawyer had to stretch to push all the buttons at once? Well a bear is much bigger than sawyer and could have reached all 3 directions at once possibly.
Also when jack said it was an aquarium he was in. I forgot about the Shark we saw with the Dharma logo on it until I read EvilYoda's post right there. Perhaps that's where the shark originated?
My new theory - The plane's explosion (or the magnetic pull actually that we saw Desmond cause last season causing the plane to crash) caused an earthquake (as we saw at the beginning of this show), and that explosion caused all of the cages/tanks holding the animals they had in captivity free. And now the "others" are pissed at them for freeing their animals which they were experimenting with.
I don't think so. The Dharma lab must be a place that has been out of commission for some time.
These people are just the remains of either the Dharma employees or were some way affiliated with the obvious experiments that Dharma did. The explosion that brought down the plane was not the one that freed the animals. One because the cages were unharmed and two because when Jack though the mic in there was speaking to him she had said "that mic hasn't worked in years". The place is run down and was obviously abandoned. This leads to believe that the only reason they are using the Dharma facility is to keep the crash members in the dark about where they currently reside - the new little town.
I horrible with names, but didn't the one loner lady that lives in a shoddy encampment that hunts all the time and made friends with Sahiid (spelling.. sorry) say that she came with others to do experiments but they all eventually died off. She might have been part of Dharma. These people might not be... Just a thought.
They have contact with the outside world, good contacts, most likely government. They would not be able to get the information about each crash member if they didnt. So there is much more to their presence on the island then just washed up people or forgotten employees... they are still there for a purpose. They are all obviously well trained. Perhaps Dharma had to do with that.
No I might be wrong, but I thought I heard Ben say "shouldnt the host pick the book.." and the woman replied "I am the host (not hostess but whatever), so I picked this book..." This leads to believe that they are both the hosts of that meeting, as in they are married and live with each other.
Another note, it is suprising that they chose to keep these people alive. Why they are taking the children is still a mystery, perhaps itw as fortold that a child would be able to answer questions they could not about the island or about some other unkown incident. But the Others leader took part in the killing of the man who's name he used as an alias while he was held captive by the crash members. This person was most likely in a freak balloon accident and was either killed during the crash and burried or he was killed for whatever reason. Point being, keep in mind that they are familiar with handling people that stumble across the island in one way or another.
"Next two weeks are going to be unpleasent"? I don't believe they are going to torture them or that the Others are bad as in they are going to harm the crash members. I kind of feel as though they are going to be training the members so they can ally with them. Reason being, they took the strongest of the members and it looks as they they have already attempted to "beak down" Jack's stubbornness by simply telling him to sit against a wall. In this way they earn his trust, which is what they are hoping for.
I have other things I can comment on, but I'll check back and look for questions. Can't wait for the next episode.
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: MrLee
No I might be wrong, but I thought I heard Ben say "shouldnt the host pick the book.." and the woman replied "I am the host (not hostess but whatever), so I picked this book..." This leads to believe that they are both the hosts of that meeting, as in they are married and live with each other.
It wasn't Ben who said that, he wasn't at the book club meeting.
Originally posted by: darkeneddays
I love the show, but the more I watch it the more I am convinced that the writers have no idea where they are going with the story. It seems like each season they map out a few hundred "wtf" moments and answer maybe a few questions. It feels like they have no ending thought out, so they keep packing various questions in week after week to keep people watching. I can't help but believe that at some point people are going to get tired of not getting they answers they want and just stop watching.
Also, since this is a seasonal TV show, I'm sure they are going to keep stringing it along for however long it takes until it gets cancelled, regardless of whethere they have an ending in mind.
Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
So, my friend had a nice thought about the new revelations...perhaps that's where the polar bear came from. We have cages for Sawyer, and a table for dolphins/sharks...where does the polar bear fit in?
You know I didn't think about that at all ...
The one guy did sell Sawyer that the bears figured it out in 2 hours, then Sawyer asked how many bears there were and the guy didnt answer. There were probably 1 polar bear in each cage. Also remember how Sawyer had to stretch to push all the buttons at once? Well a bear is much bigger than sawyer and could have reached all 3 directions at once possibly.
Also when jack said it was an aquarium he was in. I forgot about the Shark we saw with the Dharma logo on it until I read EvilYoda's post right there. Perhaps that's where the shark originated?
My new theory - The plane's explosion (or the magnetic pull actually that we saw Desmond cause last season causing the plane to crash) caused an earthquake (as we saw at the beginning of this show), and that explosion caused all of the cages/tanks holding the animals they had in captivity free. And now the "others" are pissed at them for freeing their animals which they were experimenting with.
I don't think so. The Dharma lab must be a place that has been out of commission for some time. These people are just the remains of either the Dharma employees or were some way affiliated with the obvious experiments that Dharma did. The explosion that brought down the plane was not the one that freed the animals. One because the cages were unharmed and two because when Jack though the mic in there was speaking to him she had said "that mic hasn't worked in years". The place is run down and was obviously abandoned. This leads to believe that the only reason they are using the Dharma facility is to keep the crash members in the dark about where they currently reside - the new little town.
I horrible with names, but didn't the one loner lady that lives in a shoddy encampment that hunts all the time and made friends with Sahiid (spelling.. sorry) say that she came with others to do experiments but they all eventually died off. She might have been part of Dharma. These people might not be... Just a thought.
They have contact with the outside world, good contacts, most likely government. They would not be able to get the information about each crash member if they didnt. So there is much more to their presence on the island then just washed up people or forgotten employees... they are still there for a purpose. They are all obviously well trained. Perhaps Dharma had to do with that.
No I might be wrong, but I thought I heard Ben say "shouldnt the host pick the book.." and the woman replied "I am the host (not hostess but whatever), so I picked this book..." This leads to believe that they are both the hosts of that meeting, as in they are married and live with each other.
Another note, it is suprising that they chose to keep these people alive. Why they are taking the children is still a mystery, perhaps itw as fortold that a child would be able to answer questions they could not about the island or about some other unkown incident. But the Others leader took part in the killing of the man who's name he used as an alias while he was held captive by the crash members. This person was most likely in a freak balloon accident and was either killed during the crash and burried or he was killed for whatever reason. Point being, keep in mind that they are familiar with handling people that stumble across the island in one way or another.
"Next two weeks are going to be unpleasent"? I don't believe they are going to torture them or that the Others are bad as in they are going to harm the crash members. I kind of feel as though they are going to be training the members so they can ally with them. Reason being, they took the strongest of the members and it looks as they they have already attempted to "beak down" Jack's stubbornness by simply telling him to sit against a wall. In this way they earn his trust, which is what they are hoping for.
I have other things I can comment on, but I'll check back and look for questions. Can't wait for the next episode.
Originally posted by: Aharami
does anyone remember why they let Hurley go last season? He was on the list...
Originally posted by: Semidevil
I missed the first 5 minutes. what is so special about people seeing the plane crash and running up to it?