Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?
So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.
They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?
Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.
You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.
I agree and disagree with you.
The point of the show is that it's a mystery. They're lost and you're supposed to be lost. There's a lot of things going on on the island, which is part of what makes it fun...so many mysteries to figure out. I have to admit that I was disappointed in the finale's ending and it makes me not want to watch it anymore. If they had cut it off before Jack and Kate met at the end, that would have been fine with me. There was plenty of action and fulfillment in the rest of the episode (Hurley & the other survivors taking out the bad guys, Ben getting beat up, Alex meeting her mom, Jack telling Kate he loved her, etc.).
Here's the inherent problem though...they drop all these hints, and we all go nuts trying to figure it out. When has anything ever been successfully figured out or even come close?
A lot of time was spent analyzing the numbers, and the entire concept was dropped for the third season.
A lot of time was spent analyzing the dharma initiative, and now that cats pretty much out of the bag.
The point is...they set it up to make you want to analyze it (omg that shark has a dharma symbol on it), the others (omg the others are part of some secret dharma project) then later on either drop it for later (numbers, monster) or supercede it (dharma has nothing to do with the others, apparently).
Now theyve basically shown time and time again - don't bother analyzing it, you cant figure anything out, because we'll always write over or away from it. It's bankrupted its equity as a legitimate mystery into just a continual tease to get you to continue watching.
And I suppose it works, cause I'll still watch it, but it just doesnt have that same magic behind it anymore.
But you're right, there are some major points that they are trivializing. What's up with Patchy? He gets fried on the invisible fence, he gets a harpoon shot through his heart, and then he lets off a gernade...and he's probably still alive!
Next season I'm sure we'll be privy to the very touching and pitiful life story of patchy, probably an ex KGB agent, who will suddenly turn out to be a good guy in the end.
He doesnt trust ben, because ben was lying. But then we'll find out he was lying about lying. But guess what, he was sorta kinda not lying by lying when he was lying. But its all a LIE!!
The loss of logic behind Charlie's death astounds me. And what about Locke? He's dead, he's not dead, he sees Walt, he gets shot but he can still hike up a mountain to confront Jack, he doesn't shoot Jack...oye. So the island super-heals Locke and Patchy is an island robot? The healing part makes some bit of sense, plus he got shot in his removed kidney, but I get the feeling that we'll be seeing Patchy again.
btw, I'm betting Naomi is from the Dharma initiative, which is who Ben was calling the "bad guys".
Perhaps...she could also be from the "Karma initiative", who is rival to the "Dharma Intiative." They both want the island for their own reasons.
But later on we'll find out that they both used to be part of the Dharmakarma initiative, a secret alien society of smoke monsters that is trying to invade our planet, and set up this island outside of space and time to gain a foothold, and take the form of humans, slowly recruiting real humans into the fold. No real human being wears that much eye makeup.
The "others" really ARE the good guys in the end...as descendents of the ancient pantheon of greek gods, they are the only ones who can stop the aliens. We havent seen their godlike powers just yet though...you'll have to wait for season 5 for that.
And in the end, it was all just a dream of a goldfish named Jesus hooked up to the matrix in purgatory.
Perhaps a bit far fetched, but its got just as much a chance of being right as any other "analysis."