LOST 3x22 and LOST 3x23

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Kaido
Do you guys think they had such a blah ending so that people wouldn't pull their hair out waiting all the way until next year for the next season to start? Usually they do pretty good cliffhangers, but now that they're off the island, I'm not even that interested to learn more. I'm sure I'll still watch it, it just doesn't feel as excited to me anymore...

Well, there are only indications that Kate, Jack and whoever was in the coffin are back off the island.

Jack has been flying the same flights, over and over apparently in hopes to crash and somehow get back to the island. He seems to regret getting "rescued".

Wait, so all those scenes were of the future? Damn, this is getting confusing again.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Stick to CSI if you need everything wrapped up in a little bow every week.

 

[Chewy]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc
Anyone realize that if you rearrange the letters in the name of the funeral home (Hoffs/Drawler), you get Flash Forward?

Pretty impressive if you ask me... and awesome name...go 9ers!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Then don't watch the show. Also, Rosseau was able to conceive b/c she was pregnant before landing on the island, like Claire. Obviously, you need an easier show to watch that requires no thinking.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Kaido
Do you guys think they had such a blah ending so that people wouldn't pull their hair out waiting all the way until next year for the next season to start? Usually they do pretty good cliffhangers, but now that they're off the island, I'm not even that interested to learn more. I'm sure I'll still watch it, it just doesn't feel as excited to me anymore...

Well, there are only indications that Kate, Jack and whoever was in the coffin are back off the island.

Jack has been flying the same flights, over and over apparently in hopes to crash and somehow get back to the island. He seems to regret getting "rescued".

Wait, so all those scenes were of the future? Damn, this is getting confusing again.

For some reason Jack (present day / fast forward) has done something that he regrets, immensely. He was even contemplating suicide, but the auto accident on the bridge distracted him and Jack went into "hero" mode again and pulled the mother & son out of the burning car.

Jack's life appears to be a mess. An addiction to a drug along with his fanatic passion about getting back to the island lead me to believe he got rescued, at the cost/sacrifice that some of his fellow "Losties" were left behind , but now "hero mode" Jack has regretted it and "NEEDS" to get back to the island.

 

[Zee]

freaking awesome. and with allthe usual commercials and stuff. the two hour show was almost like a ordinary 1 hour show! lol

 

[bigrash]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Originally posted by: naldo
Wow, I really suck at taking screencaps. Heres some of the note and the maps though

http://i17.tinypic.com/52bb8me.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/63ioysx.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/5ycnrpd.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/661oaaa.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/5xe876f.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/52oehs3.jpg

Can you take a few pics of the paper from the airplane. The paper was next to Jack. I think that had a better view than the ones of Jack holding the paper.

Thanks!

actually I went back and looked at the paper from the airplane and they don't show the actual article that he was reading. They show the main heading which is something unrelated.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Then don't watch the show. Also, Rosseau was able to conceive b/c she was pregnant before landing on the island, like Claire. Obviously, you need an easier show to watch that requires no thinking.

Yeah, you're right, it's cause I'm stupid. It takes a lot of thinking to "dive deep into the mystery" when a season later it'll either be forgotten, destroyed or trivialized.

It's one thing to watch a show that is slowly spiralizing into pointlessness. But if you think it somehow makes you more intelligent, or requires thought, then you're the one who's mistaken.

I've been there, done that, and just came away with the notion that it's utterly pointless to try to analyze the bones theyre throwing at us, because its just one red herring after another.

At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob. It should be obvious by now to "people that think" that anything that seems to have a point now is just going to be written over in the next season.

Whether or not it's good writing is another discussion altogether, but give me a break if you think it has ANYTHING to do with thinking.

 

[49erinnc]

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Originally posted by: naldo
Wow, I really suck at taking screencaps. Heres some of the note and the maps though

http://i17.tinypic.com/52bb8me.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/63ioysx.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/5ycnrpd.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/661oaaa.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/5xe876f.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/52oehs3.jpg

Can you take a few pics of the paper from the airplane. The paper was next to Jack. I think that had a better view than the ones of Jack holding the paper.

Thanks!

actually I went back and looked at the paper from the airplane and they don't show the actual article that he was reading. They show the main heading which is something unrelated.

Well, there are confirmations that the newspaper (LA Times) Jack was reading was dated April 5th, 2007 FWIW. So we definitely know that Jack is in present time.

Gonna be a long wait for season 3...

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Then don't watch the show. Also, Rosseau was able to conceive b/c she was pregnant before landing on the island, like Claire. Obviously, you need an easier show to watch that requires no thinking.

Yeah, you're right, it's cause I'm stupid. It takes a lot of thinking to "dive deep into the mystery" when a season later it'll either be forgotten, destroyed or trivialized.

It's one thing to watch a show that is slowly spiralizing into pointlessness. But if you think it somehow makes you more intelligent, or requires thought, then you're the one who's mistaken.

I've been there, done that, and just came away with the notion that it's utterly pointless to try to analyze the bones theyre throwing at us, because its just one red herring after another.

At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob. It should be obvious by now to "people that think" that anything that seems to have a point now is just going to be written over in the next season.

Whether or not it's good writing is another discussion altogether, but give me a break if you think it has ANYTHING to do with thinking.

Again, don't watch the show.

"At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob." - It's a story that hasn't finished. You're upset that you don't know all the answers or that someone might not be who they really are like Tom not being the actual leader or ben or possibly jacob. As the story unfolds, we find these things out.

Some of us like to think and analyze what has unfolded so far and possibly what may happen next. You want it simple and all explained in a single episode. Obviously, Lost isn't your cup of tea.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Then don't watch the show. Also, Rosseau was able to conceive b/c she was pregnant before landing on the island, like Claire. Obviously, you need an easier show to watch that requires no thinking.

Yeah, you're right, it's cause I'm stupid. It takes a lot of thinking to "dive deep into the mystery" when a season later it'll either be forgotten, destroyed or trivialized.

It's one thing to watch a show that is slowly spiralizing into pointlessness. But if you think it somehow makes you more intelligent, or requires thought, then you're the one who's mistaken.

I've been there, done that, and just came away with the notion that it's utterly pointless to try to analyze the bones theyre throwing at us, because its just one red herring after another.

At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob. It should be obvious by now to "people that think" that anything that seems to have a point now is just going to be written over in the next season.

Whether or not it's good writing is another discussion altogether, but give me a break if you think it has ANYTHING to do with thinking.

Again, don't watch the show.

"At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob." - It's a story that hasn't finished. You're upset that you don't know all the answers or that someone might not be who they really are like Tom not being the actual leader or ben or possibly jacob. As the story unfolds, we find these things out.

Some of us like to think and analyze what has unfolded so far and possibly what may happen next. You want it simple and all explained in a single episode. Obviously, Lost isn't your cup of tea.

I am sorry to have offended you, O Protector of Lost, but I'm going to call it as I see it. If all you can really say is "Don't watch it", then take your own advice, and don't read or respond to my post.

It was fun to analyze last season, when there was a good amount of mystery, and a lot going on. I used to be that guy too. They took the faith I had that it was actually going somewhere on loan, skipped a few payments thinking I wouldnt notice, and now theyre defaulting IMO.

And I know I'm not the only person who feels this way. I've still got my fingers crossed for next season actually going somewhere, but I can't say I'm really frothing at the mouth over it like I used to be.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: BD2003
And the show continues to spiral downward into an unexplainable mess. How many more seasons are left?

So far everything that happened that used to be a big deal turned about to be a big tease and shortly forgotten.

They made a big deal over the hatch...then they blew it up.
They made a big deal over the dharma initiative...then it turned out to have really nothing to do with what was going on.
Last season there was the whole online thing, and NONE of it was relevant at all.
Then theres the numbers....wtf happened to that?
Theres a monster going around killing people, and thats never been really explained.
Michael just drove away, and we never heard about them again. Now teenage walt appears out of nowhere.
Just about any of the others that were killed managed to survive somehow. So theres no reason to think anyone that dies is actually going to stay that way.
And for some strange reason, women can't get pregnant, or they'll die, yet rousseau is still alive.
Now we're supposed to just believe they get off the island soon? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Even if we are to believe that, how is kate not in jail?

Theyve managed to set it up so that no matter what happens, they can always just undo it or trivialize it, and we're all supposed to ooh, ahh and omg over it.

You cant have a coherent mystery unless theres actually a point of ending in sight, and if that ending is supposedly 3 seasons away...wtf? It's never been a sci-fi show, and it seems at this point they only way to explain it all is by going to crazyworld.

Then don't watch the show. Also, Rosseau was able to conceive b/c she was pregnant before landing on the island, like Claire. Obviously, you need an easier show to watch that requires no thinking.

Yeah, you're right, it's cause I'm stupid. It takes a lot of thinking to "dive deep into the mystery" when a season later it'll either be forgotten, destroyed or trivialized.

It's one thing to watch a show that is slowly spiralizing into pointlessness. But if you think it somehow makes you more intelligent, or requires thought, then you're the one who's mistaken.

I've been there, done that, and just came away with the notion that it's utterly pointless to try to analyze the bones theyre throwing at us, because its just one red herring after another.

At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob. It should be obvious by now to "people that think" that anything that seems to have a point now is just going to be written over in the next season.

Whether or not it's good writing is another discussion altogether, but give me a break if you think it has ANYTHING to do with thinking.

Again, don't watch the show.

"At first we all thought tom was the leader, then came ben, now jacob." - It's a story that hasn't finished. You're upset that you don't know all the answers or that someone might not be who they really are like Tom not being the actual leader or ben or possibly jacob. As the story unfolds, we find these things out.

Some of us like to think and analyze what has unfolded so far and possibly what may happen next. You want it simple and all explained in a single episode. Obviously, Lost isn't your cup of tea.

I think he has a point though. As the show progresses, it is getting more and more convoluted. First, it does not reward fans who are loyal to the show by answering what seem like important questions and keeping them involved. It pisses some people off to constantly be jerked into new directions. I think they just go for the blockbuster twists and turns every week for the ratings and to get more viewers involved at a point in time. But I think this format will turn a lot of people off. On one hand I like the plot twists, on the other another part of me gets really really annoyed at it. And what was up with the pre-show 'Answers'. They didn't answer anything we didn't already know or were 95% sure about anyway. I think that exasperated me more, that I spent an hour getting a recap that I didn't need when it was billed as something else. I think the producers have made something unique, but I am not at all sure whether I really like it. I'll keep watching but this is not my main show. I like Heroes, Boston Legal, and several other shows better. But the show does have entertainment value if you get past the fact you will never know what is going on.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Kaido
Do you guys think they had such a blah ending so that people wouldn't pull their hair out waiting all the way until next year for the next season to start? Usually they do pretty good cliffhangers, but now that they're off the island, I'm not even that interested to learn more. I'm sure I'll still watch it, it just doesn't feel as excited to me anymore...

Well, there are only indications that Kate, Jack and whoever was in the coffin are back off the island.

Jack has been flying the same flights, over and over apparently in hopes to crash and somehow get back to the island. He seems to regret getting "rescued".

Wait, so all those scenes were of the future? Damn, this is getting confusing again.

For some reason Jack (present day / fast forward) has done something that he regrets, immensely. He was even contemplating suicide, but the auto accident on the bridge distracted him and Jack went into "hero" mode again and pulled the mother & son out of the burning car.

Jack's life appears to be a mess. An addiction to a drug along with his fanatic passion about getting back to the island lead me to believe he got rescued, at the cost/sacrifice that some of his fellow "Losties" were left behind , but now "hero mode" Jack has regretted it and "NEEDS" to get back to the island.

That appears to be the issue, but does anyone notice what a b*tch Kate is? She doesn't even care in her new car, 5lbs of makeup while Jack is going crazy over something the probably did together.

Also, why must everyone mention the Matrix. Why not Alice in Wonderland/Wizard of Oz references. Oh right, probably never heard of them.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Kaido
Do you guys think they had such a blah ending so that people wouldn't pull their hair out waiting all the way until next year for the next season to start? Usually they do pretty good cliffhangers, but now that they're off the island, I'm not even that interested to learn more. I'm sure I'll still watch it, it just doesn't feel as excited to me anymore...

Well, there are only indications that Kate, Jack and whoever was in the coffin are back off the island.

Jack has been flying the same flights, over and over apparently in hopes to crash and somehow get back to the island. He seems to regret getting "rescued".

Wait, so all those scenes were of the future? Damn, this is getting confusing again.

For some reason Jack (present day / fast forward) has done something that he regrets, immensely. He was even contemplating suicide, but the auto accident on the bridge distracted him and Jack went into "hero" mode again and pulled the mother & son out of the burning car.

Jack's life appears to be a mess. An addiction to a drug along with his fanatic passion about getting back to the island lead me to believe he got rescued, at the cost/sacrifice that some of his fellow "Losties" were left behind , but now "hero mode" Jack has regretted it and "NEEDS" to get back to the island.

That appears to be the issue, but does anyone notice what a b*tch Kate is? She doesn't even care in her new car, 5lbs of makeup while Jack is going crazy over something the probably did together.

Also, why must everyone mention the Matrix. Why not Alice in Wonderland/Wizard of Oz references. Oh right, probably never heard of them.

I noticed that also. Kate shows no concern or seems to show any regret. She only seemed concerned with getting back to whoever her new man is.

Fastforward/present day Kate & Jack seem to not be as close, in their meeting. There seems to be some tension. This could all be on Jack's passion to get back to the island. Kate's attitude is "what's in the past , stays in the past".. as with everything she has been through in her life on the run.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Kaido
Do you guys think they had such a blah ending so that people wouldn't pull their hair out waiting all the way until next year for the next season to start? Usually they do pretty good cliffhangers, but now that they're off the island, I'm not even that interested to learn more. I'm sure I'll still watch it, it just doesn't feel as excited to me anymore...

Well, there are only indications that Kate, Jack and whoever was in the coffin are back off the island.

Jack has been flying the same flights, over and over apparently in hopes to crash and somehow get back to the island. He seems to regret getting "rescued".

Wait, so all those scenes were of the future? Damn, this is getting confusing again.

For some reason Jack (present day / fast forward) has done something that he regrets, immensely. He was even contemplating suicide, but the auto accident on the bridge distracted him and Jack went into "hero" mode again and pulled the mother & son out of the burning car.

Jack's life appears to be a mess. An addiction to a drug along with his fanatic passion about getting back to the island lead me to believe he got rescued, at the cost/sacrifice that some of his fellow "Losties" were left behind , but now "hero mode" Jack has regretted it and "NEEDS" to get back to the island.

That appears to be the issue, but does anyone notice what a b*tch Kate is? She doesn't even care in her new car, 5lbs of makeup while Jack is going crazy over something the probably did together.

Also, why must everyone mention the Matrix. Why not Alice in Wonderland/Wizard of Oz references. Oh right, probably never heard of them.

I have already decided I could never trust Kate. She has major commitment issues, and I don't know that she ever solves her problems in life. I think she continues to run away and ignore them, and that scene pretty much confirmed the personality of her character. If I was Jack, I would have given her the 'lets be friends' speech by now.

 

[Ramma2]

Kate assumes the identity of one of the women that died on the island. New name, new life, no slammer time.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
Kate assumes the identity of one of the women that died on the island. New name, new life, no slammer time.

She could have got pardoned, with her and Jack's "heroic" rescue.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
Kate assumes the identity of one of the women that died on the island. New name, new life, no slammer time.

I think that is a good explanation, and explains her avoidance behavior with Jack in that scene. If they bring it back up, she likely gets caught and goes to jail.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: sirjonk
So they never really left the island, the "rescuers" were baddies, they hooked them up to matrix-like machines or put them in a room and drugged the crap out of them. There's no way they left that island.

Unless they left the island, the rescuers weren't baddies, they're not hooked up to any machines or drugged out (sans Jack) and next season will start like Battlestar Galactica did this season with a change of scenery, and after a few weeks they'll get back to the island like humanity left New Caprica and got back into space.

they left the island by being unplugged...

ben knew real life sux, only life in the matrix rocks, you can make anything happen.

once jack was unplugged from the matrix, he went back to the real world and realized how much it sucked, he is trying to get back into the matrix and he will be reloaded.

either that or it was really a flashback and he has already been reloaded in the matrix and he's doing it all over again. taking charge...the way he likes it. in the real world, he does not have this reality.

give it up on your stupid Matrix theory...like they would really do such a blatant ripoff of a popular movie...

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
Kate assumes the identity of one of the women that died on the island. New name, new life, no slammer time.

Thats pretty hard to believe when the authorities were aware she was on that flight, and have her picture, unless it was an "unofficial" rescue.

 

[jlbenedict]

A little bit more on the newspaper article:

"The body of J________ntham of
New York was ______shortly after 4
a.m. in the _____________of Grand
Avenue.
Tod __________a doorman at The
Tower _______________heard loud
noises ____________________loft.
C____________________safety he
entered the _______uncovered the
_____hang_________a beam in the
__room.
According______________________"

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
A little bit more on the newspaper article:

"The body of J________ntham of
New York was ______shortly after 4
a.m. in the _____________of Grand
Avenue.
Tod __________a doorman at The
Tower _______________heard loud
noises ____________________loft.
C____________________safety he
entered the _______uncovered the
_____hang_________a beam in the
__room.
According______________________"

hi res pic of the clipping

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
A little bit more on the newspaper article:

"The body of J________ntham of
New York was ______shortly after 4
a.m. in the _____________of Grand
Avenue.
Tod __________a doorman at The
Tower _______________heard loud
noises ____________________loft.
C____________________safety he
entered the _______uncovered the
_____hang_________a beam in the
__room.
According______________________"

hi res pic of the clipping

So, whoever it is, hung themself.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Originally posted by: Injury
The issue I have with these "flashbacks" being in the future is that Jack makes the comment "Go upstairs and talk to my dad... if I'm more drunk than him you can fire me!"... If it's the future... Jack's dad is dead.

Yeah...I'm sure that'll get semi-explained later. That, or Jack was really just fvcked up and saying stupid sh*t and that's another reason why everybody thought he was looney

He was on OCs. Which is basically heroin. It makes you relaxed, it doesn't make you hallucinate or become delusional.

But mix it with sleep depravation and you will most definitly hellucinate and become delusional.

 

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Originally posted by: jdini76

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Originally posted by: Injury
The issue I have with these "flashbacks" being in the future is that Jack makes the comment "Go upstairs and talk to my dad... if I'm more drunk than him you can fire me!"... If it's the future... Jack's dad is dead.

Yeah...I'm sure that'll get semi-explained later. That, or Jack was really just fvcked up and saying stupid sh*t and that's another reason why everybody thought he was looney

He was on OCs. Which is basically heroin. It makes you relaxed, it doesn't make you hallucinate or become delusional.

But mix it with sleep depravation and you will most definitly hellucinate and become delusional.

What about mixing with alcohol? Jack mentions something about him being more drunk than his father, then fire him..

Jack is possibly following his father's footstep's and is an alcoholic as well..