"Lost" 6x0 "Ab Aeterno" Tues. 9pm NO SPOILERS UNTIL AIRED

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coloumb

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I was actually happy to see this episode as I was curious about Richard. Now I know more specifically, not just assumptions and it all makes sense. Now I'm curious about a couple things: a)where'd the statue come from b)how Jacob trapped MIB on the island and 'took away' his body.

Not sure what you mean by "took away" his [MIB] body? I thought the body he had before taking over Locke's body was his original body [or did my failing memory forget that part?].

I really never thought of Walt as someone being special...I don't know why people think he is? I've always thought of him as a child who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time [including Claire's baby] - did they ever really explain why the "others" wanted to keep/kidnap children?

/shrug

X-Files was a very popular tv show and it didn't explain a lot of things - I suspect LOST will do the same - hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ends with a lot of unanswered questions [jacob, MIB, the island, etc]...
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Not sure what you mean by "took away" his [MIB] body? I thought the body he had before taking over Locke's body was his original body [or did my failing memory forget that part?].

I really never thought of Walt as someone being special...I don't know why people think he is? I've always thought of him as a child who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time [including Claire's baby] - did they ever really explain why the "others" wanted to keep/kidnap children?

/shrug

X-Files was a very popular tv show and it didn't explain a lot of things - I suspect LOST will do the same - hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ends with a lot of unanswered questions [jacob, MIB, the island, etc]...

1. MiB specifically said that Jacob "took" his body, but didn't elaborate. We don't know if the Titus Welliver body is his original one, or even the one he inhabited directly before Locke.

2. Walt appeared several times where he shouldn't naturally be and communicated (strangely, like with reversed speech), but we don't know if it was actually him projecting or what. He's been called "special" in the show, and it's been stated that when he's around "things happen". His thoughts seem to come true: He's crazy lucky in backgammon with Locke; he made a bird appear when he was reading about it in Australia; he also seemed to cause the polar bear to arrive after seeing it in his comic book. We still don't know how he spoke to Michael through the computer while he was in captivity. The Others avoided him because they were frightened of his abilities. You really think he's unimportant?
 

darkxshade

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Walt is like the Dharma Initiative, we don't know definitively why they were on the island or what their actual purpose was the whole time except that they made a lot of "noise" throughout the seasons and then just silenced at the whim of the producers. Same goes for the others.
 

Drekce

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Back in Australia, didn't a psychic basically say Aaron was the antichrist?

I don't remember the exact words that the psychic said, but I think it was something to the effect of: "Bad things will happen if this child is not raised by you (to Claire)."

So, maybe Aaron's significance is not really to himself, but more the effect it had on Claire not raising him. Without Claire turning out the way she did the whole temple raid may not have transpired the way it did.
 

Kev

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"They" who? How can you arbitrarily say that the point of the show is to "figure out what the island really is"? If the answer to that also explains all the other weirdness surrounding the characters, I'm on board with you.

Otherwise, what was the point of emphasizing how special Walt was? The numbers? Widmore's real motivations and how he returned to the island? The psychic "powers" of Hurley and Miles? (We're really just supposed to accept that, oh, these guys can talk to dead people?) The time travel business? How exactly the Jacob/MiB struggle tied in with the Dharma Initiative and what they were doing on the island? What's up with the polar bears? How Eloise became so knowledgeable, took over The Lamp Post facility, and got Locke's suicide note? Why Faraday's last name is different from both of his parents'? What Aaron's place is in all of this? What the whispers are? Etc., etc. etc.

If it's all just to contribute to a sense of mystical importance, I'll be pissed. I just don't buy the argument that all the unexplained side plots are only valuable in driving the characters toward revealing the truth about "the island". If so many things happen without explanation and for no apparent reason, that's pretty poor writing. It's not at all the same thing as being "open-ended".

If viewers were supposed to just switch off the ol' brain and go for the ride, the writers needn't have included so many confusing events, nor clues that can only be gleaned from pouring over freeze frames and repeat viewings. This whole show is about details, and some longtime fans are naturally upset if it seems the writers no longer seem to care about the seeds they've planted throughout the last six years. The reactions you're seeing aren't "taking it too seriously"; it's just the result of the disappointing realization that Lost is actually "just a TV show" and not the slightly more special experience it pretended to be.

Thank you for typing out what I was too lazy to!
 

KeithTalent

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Maybe we should just save the bitching until after the final episode when we will know what exactly they/have not told us.

KT
 

Fingolfin269

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"They" who? How can you arbitrarily say that the point of the show is to "figure out what the island really is"? If the answer to that also explains all the other weirdness surrounding the characters, I'm on board with you.

Otherwise, what was the point of emphasizing how special Walt was? The numbers? Widmore's real motivations and how he returned to the island? The psychic "powers" of Hurley and Miles? (We're really just supposed to accept that, oh, these guys can talk to dead people?) The time travel business? How exactly the Jacob/MiB struggle tied in with the Dharma Initiative and what they were doing on the island? What's up with the polar bears? How Eloise became so knowledgeable, took over The Lamp Post facility, and got Locke's suicide note? Why Faraday's last name is different from both of his parents'? What Aaron's place is in all of this? What the whispers are? Etc., etc. etc.

If it's all just to contribute to a sense of mystical importance, I'll be pissed. I just don't buy the argument that all the unexplained side plots are only valuable in driving the characters toward revealing the truth about "the island". If so many things happen without explanation and for no apparent reason, that's pretty poor writing. It's not at all the same thing as being "open-ended".

If viewers were supposed to just switch off the ol' brain and go for the ride, the writers needn't have included so many confusing events, nor clues that can only be gleaned from pouring over freeze frames and repeat viewings. This whole show is about details, and some longtime fans are naturally upset if it seems the writers no longer seem to care about the seeds they've planted throughout the last six years. The reactions you're seeing aren't "taking it too seriously"; it's just the result of the disappointing realization that Lost is actually "just a TV show" and not the slightly more special experience it pretended to be.

"They" being the people on the island. That is really what this story is all about, at least from what I can tell. The island is the main character. But KeithT is right, what's the point in complaining about what they have/haven't shown when they still have plenty of time to show... whatever it is they intend to show! Until next week...
 

Kev

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Maybe we should just save the bitching until after the final episode when we will know what exactly they/have not told us.

KT

I agree, I think the only reason we broke off on this tangent was when I read someone quoting that the writers had said they will not explain the numbers, which made me say OMGWTF.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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"They" being the people on the island. That is really what this story is all about, at least from what I can tell. The island is the main character. But KeithT is right, what's the point in complaining about what they have/haven't shown when they still have plenty of time to show... whatever it is they intend to show! Until next week...

I'm not complaining yet. I'm just disagreeing with the people in the thread saying that it won't matter if these things are left unresolved. At the rate this season is going, things do not look promising, but I'm reserving judgment.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Maybe Walt and/or Aaron just returned to the island with Widmore?

I think that's one theory on how Widmore got back -- Walt helped him, or was forced to.

Personally, I think this season has sucked balls so far, but I liked this episode and have a man crush on Richard. He was kind of whiny the past couple weeks, but he did get shit on pretty good back in the day.
 

brblx

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i'll take this thread in a new direction.

Not to mention in my dreams that night.
btw she has a Kate thing going on here
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FOR THE LAST GODDAMNED TIME, SHE IS NOT FUCKING HOT.

damn, what is ATOT's fascination with this 100% average woman? every other woman on the show makes her look like the ugly redheaded stepchild that she is. damn gingers.
 

rockyct

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i'll take this thread in a new direction.



FOR THE LAST GODDAMNED TIME, SHE IS NOT FUCKING HOT.

damn, what is ATOT's fascination with this 100% average woman? every other woman on the show makes her look like the ugly redheaded stepchild that she is. damn gingers.
Uh oh. Not another Sandra Bullock hotness type thread...
 

brblx

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they can have their plastic victory on that one.

but drooling over this charlotte chick is even more absurd. she reminds me of the girl in like elementary school that liked you but you didn't like her because she was 'the ugly one.'
 

M0RPH

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Some of you are placing far too much importance on Walt. The others thought he was a good kid with potential, so they wanted him to join their society, just like those other Flight 815 passengers they assimilated. If it was any more than that they wouldn't have traded him off so easily and let him leave the island. Walt doesnt need any further explanation.

And i agree Charlotte is not hot.
 

Crono

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Some of you are placing far too much importance on Walt. The others thought he was a good kid with potential, so they wanted him to join their society, just like those other Flight 815 passengers they assimilated. If it was any more than that they wouldn't have traded him off so easily and let him leave the island. Walt doesnt need any further explanation.

And i agree Charlotte is not hot.

I think they would have if it were a hidden aspect of Jacob's plans.

Much like how Aaron is. I highly suspect (but of course don't know for sure) that both Walt and Aaron play heavily into the final scenes of the show and the fate of the island.

All the "candidates" were allowed to leave the island, as well... only so they could come back of their own volition. When they were ready.
 

Triforceofcourage

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Look, I don't consider Charlotte hot. I consider her maybe a little above average but I would still f*ck the shit out of her. ATOT, do not confuse the two categories of "hot" and "would f*ck". They are not the same thing.
 

Homerboy

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Look, I don't consider Charlotte hot. I consider her maybe a little above average but I would still f*ck the shit out of her. ATOT, do not confuse the two categories of "hot" and "would f*ck". They are not the same thing.

This is entirely MORE true when posting it on ATOT too....
 

JEDI

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how is Isabella on the island?!

was her body on the Black Rock ship?!
 
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