lots of apple haters. where're the sun haters?

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: sm8000
Often there's no point in buying a computer not marketed to you, or me, or many of us, right?

I don't pay attention to marketing.

I buy pretty much anything that will entertain me. That's why I have a Mac, x86 based PCs, and Sun systems. They're all entertaining in one way or another.

 

[Childs]

I do to, But somehow a little much to choke down the $2999 cost for just a tower with a keyboard and mouse I won't even use.

When you think about buying PCs to you think Alienware or the Dell XPS is the only available PC? Their prices go all the way down to $600. And I doubt you'd use the mouse that came with any system.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Childs

I do to, But somehow a little much to choke down the $2999 cost for just a tower with a keyboard and mouse I won't even use.

When you think about buying PCs to you think Alienware or the Dell XPS is the only available PC? Their prices go all the way down to $600. And I doubt you'd use the mouse that came with any system.

I probably would use the mouse.

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Then it isn't for you. Ignore it.

WTF is that suposed to mean?

If you have to justify the price, you probably don't need it. Or even want it enough.

Umm, Between being married, Having a child, And recently buying a house, Extra play funds are not exactly an option right now. Try it sometime, You will know exactly what I mean.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Then it isn't for you. Ignore it.

WTF is that suposed to mean?

If you have to justify the price, you probably don't need it. Or even want it enough.

Umm, Between being married, Having a child, And recently buying a house, Extra play funds are not exactly an option right now. Try it sometime, You will know exactly what I mean.

then you should be looking at a good used computer. i don't know what the fuss is over new computers when they're wholly unnecessary in daily activities.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Then it isn't for you. Ignore it.

WTF is that suposed to mean?

If you have to justify the price, you probably don't need it. Or even want it enough.

Umm, Between being married, Having a child, And recently buying a house, Extra play funds are not exactly an option right now. Try it sometime, You will know exactly what I mean.

I'd rather not. What I said wasn't meant in an insulting way, but it obviously isn't in the cards for you. You'd be better off ignoring it. I'd be better off if I could follow that advice myself (kind of trying to talk myself out of a powerbook and into a centrino instead...).

 

[Skiguy411]

Why pay 3000 for a computer when you cant run half of the software thats out there?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
Why pay 3000 for a computer when you cant run half of the software thats out there?

Let's see. With Virtual PC I can run Windows and pretty much all windows software. Since I use Mac OS X, I can use all OS 9 software, all OS X software, and generally 99% of the *nix software out there.

99% of all software is crap anyways. Mozilla/fire* work fine. Thunderbird works fine. I have chat programs out the wazoo. SSH comes installed with the OS. A great mp3 player/encoder is installed (don't know if that still comes with the OS or not). What am I missing?

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
Why pay 3000 for a computer when you cant run half of the software thats out there?

Let's see. With Virtual PC I can run Windows and pretty much all windows software. Since I use Mac OS X, I can use all OS 9 software, all OS X software, and generally 99% of the *nix software out there.

99% of all software is crap anyways. Mozilla/fire* work fine. Thunderbird works fine. I have chat programs out the wazoo. SSH comes installed with the OS. A great mp3 player/encoder is installed (don't know if that still comes with the OS or not). What am I missing?

So on top of the $3000, you gotta pay another $250 just to run software that I can run on a $800 PC?

What you might think is crap, others may find it to be gold.

 

[paperlate777]

Whoa! Hold it!

I've used all platforms and all OSes. If you're talking about workstations, there isn't really anything wrong with macs, sparcs, pc because it is the ITs' responsibility to make sure they are running right. I work in a school where we have a brand new Sun Opteron server and use PC workstations because PC workstations are cheaper than Sparc stations. We do have some Sparc workstations, and their monitors are just plain bad. It is only good for text and nothing else. (Note: These are NOT SGI workstation computers...only Sparc).

As for Macs, the most evil thing that they have done is that you cannot dual boot the Panther OS X and the older Mac OS 9 and below. By dual-boot, I mean using 2 different hard drive or partition and loading one OS on one drive or partition while loading another OS to another drive or partition. Mac basically thumbed their nose at you using their older software. To me, that is a travesty because I have some older Mac software that will not run under classic mode, but I'm stuck having to reboot Mac and then choose OS 9. It's just awful. I would love the ability to tinker whatever I want with the computer, and for Mac to deny me that authority is just wrong.

The first good Sun workstation starts at UltraSPARC Sun Blade 1500 which is priced at $1995. This is a bit steep for a workstation. The performance on the Sparcs is excellent however when using Star Office or using business productivity suites. However, Suns are just as bad as Macs when you want to use older software (correct me if I'm wrong here).

With PCs, you can use anything under the sun (pun unintended ) with the exception of Apple OS, UNIX, and Amiga software.

Speaking of UNIX, I was watching Jurassic Park last night...have you ever seen such a horrible (although cool) GUI in your life?

Slag-King

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Then it isn't for you. Ignore it.

WTF is that suposed to mean?

If you have to justify the price, you probably don't need it. Or even want it enough.

Umm, Between being married, Having a child, And recently buying a house, Extra play funds are not exactly an option right now. Try it sometime, You will know exactly what I mean.

I'd rather not. What I said wasn't meant in an insulting way, but it obviously isn't in the cards for you. You'd be better off ignoring it. I'd be better off if I could follow that advice myself (kind of trying to talk myself out of a powerbook and into a centrino instead...).

Allright, Maybe I just percieved what you had posted wrongly and took it as insulting..I apologize. After thinking about it for a while, You are correct. I don't need a new G5(At least at home), But I want one. I need my Mac's(Heck, even the old OS/2 machine for that matter) at work. They are what pay the bills. Still though, It would be nice to have maybe a single proc, 2.0 machine at a better price point for broke bastards like me..

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Then it isn't for you. Ignore it.

WTF is that suposed to mean?

If you have to justify the price, you probably don't need it. Or even want it enough.

Umm, Between being married, Having a child, And recently buying a house, Extra play funds are not exactly an option right now. Try it sometime, You will know exactly what I mean.

then you should be looking at a good used computer. i don't know what the fuss is over new computers when they're wholly unnecessary in daily activities.

Heh heh..Don't need a good used computer, I have plenty of fast-enough PC's floating around the house. I was just wanting to replace my doggish B&W G3 with a newer G5 and bitching about the cost.


P.S. Amazing how some of these threads take some serious turns off into different directions.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Skiguy411

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
Why pay 3000 for a computer when you cant run half of the software thats out there?

Let's see. With Virtual PC I can run Windows and pretty much all windows software. Since I use Mac OS X, I can use all OS 9 software, all OS X software, and generally 99% of the *nix software out there.

99% of all software is crap anyways. Mozilla/fire* work fine. Thunderbird works fine. I have chat programs out the wazoo. SSH comes installed with the OS. A great mp3 player/encoder is installed (don't know if that still comes with the OS or not). What am I missing?

So on top of the $3000, you gotta pay another $250 just to run software that I can run on a $800 PC?

What you might think is crap, others may find it to be gold.

And you still can't run Mac software. I can't think of a single piece of Windows only bloatware that I would want installed on my system.