Lots of Californians moving to Idaho. Will Idaho turn Dem in the near future?

[blackangst1]

I don't believe it. CA is a place one moves to, not moves away from. Even the CA homeless would rather stay in CA and live in tents than move back to the god awful midwest. Wouldn't you?

Yes especially when the governor announced all homeless are welcome.

 

[thilanliyan]

I'm a steadfast yet very liberal Christian...maybe that'll give me some street (pasture/forrest) cred?

You used the word "liberal" to describe yourself...any cred you had goes out the window in the sticks...

 

[hal2kilo]

Not all of CA is DEM. Maybe rural red voters are moving to a red state to flee what they feel is a bad blue state?

CA is roughly 2/3 dem, 1/3 tard on POTUS voting. Maybe the tards are fleeing? Lol

The valley people.

 

[Greenman]

I don't believe it. CA is a place one moves to, not moves away from. Even the CA homeless would rather stay in CA and live in tents than move back to the god awful midwest. Wouldn't you?

CA is nice when you get out of the population centers, but within them it's unpleasant. Though some of the gentrified areas are very nice. The homeless issue has moved from "problem" into "nightmare". Some of the population centers also have rampant crime.

I live in the Bay Area, and can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to move here.

 

[Bitek]

I don't believe it. CA is a place one moves to, not moves away from. Even the CA homeless would rather stay in CA and live in tents than move back to the god awful midwest. Wouldn't you?

Plenty of Californians moving to Denver (along with a bunch of others...)

 

[NWRMidnight]

lol TX isn't in striking distance until at least 2030+

only because of their gerrymandering manipulation bullshit.

As for the topic, the main reason CA move to Idaho is the same reason they move to WA. Because they can sell their homes in CA and then purchase 2 or 3 of the same in both states for what they sold their home for in CA (live in one, rent out the others), and now with many working remotely, they do it while still collecting the higher wages of CA. It's funny, I have an uncle who moved to Idaho a couple years ago. First year he parroted how much cheaper it is to live there than WA. a year later he is singing a different toon. He now has income tax, property taxes are double what he was paying in WA for comparable land/home, as well as other costs. (fortunately because of his age/income he gets a lot of that forgiven). He even pointed how bad Idaho is when it comes to road maintenance and other services compared to WA...

 

[UNCjigga]

Even if there was such a large influx of Californians, I’d bet they’ll all be concentrated in and around Boise and Idaho Falls. State GOP can always gerrymander the districts to keep it from turning purple or blue.

 

[MrSquished]

only because of their gerrymandering manipulation bullshit.

As for the topic, the main reason CA move to Idaho is the same reason they move to WA. Because they can sell their homes in CA and then purchase 2 or 3 of the same in both states for what they sold their home for in CA (live in one, rent out the others), and now with many working remotely, they do it while still collecting the higher wages of CA. It's funny, I have an uncle who moved to Idaho a couple years ago. First year he parroted how much cheaper it is to live there than WA. a year later he is singing a different toon. He now has income tax, property taxes are double what he was paying in WA for comparable land/home, as well as other costs. (fortunately because of his age/income he gets a lot of that forgiven). He even pointed how bad Idaho is when it comes to road maintenance and other services compared to WA...

That's going to start to change in a lot of companies I suspect. I think FB already mentioned it and of course the Wall Street companies. You get a permanent remote job and move to the sticks, you aren't going to get paid the same bucks if you lived in a high COL area

 

[NWRMidnight]

That's going to start to change in a lot of companies I suspect. I think FB already mentioned it and of course the Wall Street companies. You get a permanent remote job and move to the sticks, you aren't going to get paid the same bucks if you lived in a high COL area

I suspect they will run into legal roadblocks. If they succeed, then every business will start basing their wages paid to an individual based off their home address or the business location, which ever has the cheaper COL. No matter if you are remote working or physically working at the business location. Take CA for example, COL is higher in the big cities than they are outside th big city.. even different areas of a city has different levels of cost of living purely by differences in housing (rent or morgage) costs. If they start reducing remote workers wages based on where they chose to remote work from, what's going to stop them from saying to Joe: " we are reducing your salary by X dollars because you live in an area that has lower housing costs than such and such area".

 

[MrSquished]

I suspect they will run into legal roadblocks. If they succeed, then every business will start basing their wages paid to an individual based off their home address or the business location, which ever has the cheaper COL. No matter if you are remote working or physically working at the business location. Take CA for example, COL is higher in the big cities than they are outside th big city..

You think the judiciary is going to rule that with the changing WFH landscape, FB is forced to pay an engineer level 2 the exact same wage if they choose to work nearer the office in CA and work hybrid than an engineer level 2 that chooses to move to the sticks of North Dakota for permanent remote?

I seriously seriously doubt it.

 

[NWRMidnight]

You think the judiciary is going to rule that with the changing WFH landscape, FB is forced to pay an engineer level 2 the exact same wage if they choose to work nearer the office in CA and work hybrid than an engineer level 2 that chooses to move to the sticks of North Dakota for permanent remote?

I seriously seriously doubt it.

Go read my edit. And yes, wages have never been based off the employees address, they have always been based off the area of the business and the market. This actually could make wages more uniform and competitive across the nation. Companies who are keeping the remote working as part of their business model will already save tons of money by being able to downsize their office spaces and such. Besides it doesn't matter if they are doing the work from the space station or sitting in an office cubical, they are still doing the same job in the same market (where the business is located), no matter where their ass is planted.

 

[MrSquished]

Go read my edit. And yes, wages have never been based off the employees address, they have always been based off the area of the business and the market. This actually could make wages more uniform and competitive across the nation. Companies who are keeping the remote working as part of their business model will already save tons of money by being able to downsize their office spaces and such. Besides it doesn't matter if they are doing the work from the space station or sitting in an office cubical, they are still doing the same job in the same market (where the business is located), no matter where their ass is planted.

that's a bit of a conflicting statement. Yes, wages, have been based upon the employees address and the area of the business. Not literally the actual employee address, but knowing they were paying for that employee to want to live in a certain area, which encompasses a lot of addresses.

In order to attract talent that would come work in their NYC offices, those companies paid NYC COL wages. If their employee chose to use that money and live in the city and commute less, or in, say, the Jersey Burbs, and commute more - that's on them. But 100% wages were based on getting the employees to live near the business address enough to be there for work. Compensation packages for employees they did not have to lure to higher COL places were for sure less in the dollar department. So yes, businesses have discriminated by the geographic location of employees and WFH will only expand that practice.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

only because of their gerrymandering manipulation bullshit.

As for the topic, the main reason CA move to Idaho is the same reason they move to WA. Because they can sell their homes in CA and then purchase 2 or 3 of the same in both states for what they sold their home for in CA (live in one, rent out the others), and now with many working remotely, they do it while still collecting the higher wages of CA. It's funny, I have an uncle who moved to Idaho a couple years ago. First year he parroted how much cheaper it is to live there than WA. a year later he is singing a different toon. He now has income tax, property taxes are double what he was paying in WA for comparable land/home, as well as other costs. (fortunately because of his age/income he gets a lot of that forgiven). He even pointed how bad Idaho is when it comes to road maintenance and other services compared to WA...

Except... You know... that the topic of discussion is presidential - not localities.

but that would require thinking.... and we can't have that upon your part, now can we?

 

[NWRMidnight]

Except... You know... that the topic of discussion is presidential - not localities.

but that would require thinking.... and we can't have that upon your part, now can we?

So you think that the boundaries changes to the districts doesn't effect Presidential elections when the districts are changed to make it harder for democrats to vote?

Since you brought up the requirement of thinking, I have a question: Before you typed your idiotic post, did you stop and think about how boundaries effect voting locations and drop box locations, and how those locations can be restrictive and make it harder for people to cast their vote for President?

Nope, you didn't think at all. You just swung in here in your normal rope of stupidity and posted blindly with no real thought behind it. But of course, you don't understand what voter suppression is (or chose to ignore it) , and how gerrymanding is a form of voter suppression not only at the local level, but also at the federal level (including the Presidential election), so we get it. So in the end, the only person you insulted is yourself by not putting any effort in thinking past your own blind stupidity.

 

[Moonbeam]

Everybody hates Californians who leave the state with their huge bags of equity. They can pay three times what the locals can afford and drive up the prices everywhere. They don't even get a thank you from the locals who sell, that anybody can hear.

When @fskimospy finally drives me out of my house and I start looking in other states I'm going to ask, 'How much in California dollars?"

 

[Indus]

CA is nice when you get out of the population centers, but within them it's unpleasant. Though some of the gentrified areas are very nice. The homeless issue has moved from "problem" into "nightmare". Some of the population centers also have rampant crime.

I live in the Bay Area, and can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to move here.

I almost did 20 odd years ago.. but I chose to stay in New York.. I couldn't get used to the idea of needing a car.. I'm a new yorker.. take the subway everywhere and everything is close by.

 

[Zorba]

The real problem with Idaho and other small states is that the system invented to give them an equal voice (the Senate) now gives them TOO much power. That's a whole nother discussion, the broken electoral system and 2 senators per state...

And the suppression of the number of representatives.

 

[Amol S.]

Idaho is too deep red to turn blue any tme soon. Send them to Texas instead.

Here is an interesting fact, Wyoming has voted more blue in 2020 than it did in 2016. In 2020, 2 counties in Wyoming voted for Biden. Biden won one of those two counties by just 500 votes (Albany), the other (Teton) he won by 67.1%. In 2020, Biden only won Teton with 57.92%, and lost Albany by 712 votes.

 

[nutxo]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

 

[ivwshane]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

Lol the trash is simply your kind but from California.

 

[MrSquished]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

What was the funeral for in Idaho? The few ragged remains of what you call a soul and your ability to critically think?

 

[brycejones]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

Can you link to evidence of the political affiliations of those moving to Idaho from California?

 

[Jhhnn]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

Heh. Roughly 11X as many Californians voted for Trump as Idahoans. They're a lot more likely to find Idaho appealing than Dems.

 

[kt]

I spent my weekend in Idaho for a funeral. Idahoans from anywhere near Boise are really displeased with the trash descending on their state. Apparently Californians are fleeing the shit they voted for and trying to ruin Idaho the way they turned California into a shit hole.

Thanks for taking in our "trash" and give them a home. But around here, we prefer to call them conservatives because we still treat people with dignity despite their political views.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Lol, no true Idahoan!