I agree with that. It's just the misinformation in these threads that force me to keep coming back.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm tired of this discussion.
Evolution and religion, for the hundredth time, are not mutually exclusive. Neither are science and religion.
This isn't about analysis. It's a stupid pissing contest.
Ding Ding!
Yes it is, especially in an internet forum. The real debate about teaching ID or not has been lost in the drivel. I'm for religious freedom of expression, but taught as part of a class.
Science should be taught as such. On the other hand if those who expressed a religious POV were as portrayed, then this would certainly not be an issue. It would have been part of the educational system already. I don't want religious ideas taught as such in school, and I don't want my children taught someone elses "enlightened" morality either. That's not the job of government. EVERYONE keep your hands off my kids.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Which is cool as long as you don't try to force others into believing it (which you don't). Teaching Creationism in school is fine if you teach it in the proper course which is alongside Greek, Roman and Norse Mythology.Originally posted by: Dari
That's why it's called belief. I don't have to explain it to you or anyone. They're my beliefs.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
I see a reasonable discussion with you on this subject is pointless. We both made our opinions known and thats good enough for me.
Because what you are proposing is not reasonable.
Originally posted by: Butterbean
I see no threat in this. Bad science is an epidemic at this time, and there are often political agendas behind it. The global warming stuff is flawed from beginning to end, but it still gets force fed with great hostitly for any disagreement. I have no issue with evolution as a principle but I see no reason to teach that human's are from apes since jillions of fossils are missing when they shouldn't be (democrats being from apes maybe). If people want to allow room for controversies about human origins I could not care less. The UK also passed laws to counter global warming rubbish ala Gore and more power to them. I feel like I am re-living the 1930's and rugenics with all the incredibly shoddy science going around (and psychologists/psychiatrists are some of the most guilty of al). There are weirdos on creation side and weirdos on the evolution side. It's not so bad they keep each other busy imo.
Schools must warn of Gore climate film bias
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...climate-film-bias.html
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Which is cool as long as you don't try to force others into believing it (which you don't). Teaching Creationism in school is fine if you teach it in the proper course which is alongside Greek, Roman and Norse Mythology.Originally posted by: Dari
That's why it's called belief. I don't have to explain it to you or anyone. They're my beliefs.
Originally posted by: Arkitech
It's just the misinformation in these threads that force me to keep coming back.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm tired of this discussion.
Evolution and religion, for the hundredth time, are not mutually exclusive. Neither are science and religion.
This isn't about analysis. It's a stupid pissing contest.
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: KIRBYEE
...Originally posted by: Vic
...Originally posted by: KIRBYEE
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What do you mean by faith in God?
It's impossible to believe in The Bible and evolution/science/etc...
This view is pretty much the same view that many Creationists have. It seems there isn't much difference between either side, at least in some cases.
FRANCIS COLLINS
Director, National Human Genome Research Institute
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Now this man says he's a Christian. Maybe not the Christian you would want him to be. You know, one of those who can't wait to seize your children and indoctrinate them in class. Then again there really aren't many of those, just a few with very big mouths. Kind of like AT peeps. Note he does not favor teaching ID, nor does he disagree with evolution.
If you don't know who Francis Collins is, you have the Almighty Google at your disposal.
All you have to do now is to show he's not a Christian (and you don't get to decide what that is, he does) AND show he's not a scientist. Good luck with that.
Ignorance is really a two way street. It's religion neutral.
There have been numerous studies done on whether the flood is possible and there is certaintly enough water to cover the planet. Considering during that time in history the climate of the planet was different, there were no areas of extreme cold. Water in the form of ice, snow and glaciars would not be collected in one area the way it is today. Also there's a possibility that the mountains as we know them today were not quite as tall. There's extensive information both for and against the flood, from the bit that I've read I'm convinced that a world wide flood is possible. As far as the ark goes, it was basically a big wooden box. Why would that be impossible?
Just because a person claims something to be true does'nt make it so. That's been the major arguments in these evolution/creation threads. And any religion claiming God is on their on side while slaughtering people in war, I would doubt anything that they say in connection with the bible. Some people in this world are certaintly successful (in a sense) without a religious connection. However some people credit the bible and God for being morally clean and having success with a happy family. Success in life is more than just money, possessions, acheivements at work, etc..