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Donkeys Get Marines Around in Afghanistan

By DANIEL COONEY
The Associated Press

KANDAGAL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military has gone low-tech. Frustrated with the limitations of using its fleet of modern Humvee four-wheel-drives in rugged mountains with few roads, a battalion of Marines has enlisted the help of transport vehicles that Afghan villagers have been using for centuries - donkeys.

About 30 of the animals have been rented from local farmers to haul food and bottled water to hundreds of Afghan and U.S. troops on a major two-week operation to battle militants deep in remote mountains in eastern Afghanistan's Kunar province.

"With all the smart bombs and the modern stuff in war nowadays, this is the best way for us to resupply our troops there," said Lt. Col. Jim Donnellan, commander of 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, which is based in Hawaii. "It's also much cheaper for the U.S. taxpayer for us to rent the donkeys than for everything to be air-dropped."

Using aircraft to resupply the forces is also dangerous.

In late June, militants in the area shot down a special forces Chinook helicopter, killing all 16 troops on board, as it tried to land in one of the many steep-sided, wooded valleys that snake their way through the mountains.

The operation, which began Friday, is aimed at flushing those fighters out of the valley and U.S. commanders are nervous about risking other choppers in the process.

From a temporary resupply base in a corn field near Kandagal, a tiny village, at one end of Korengal Valley, where the militants are suspected of hiding, squads of Marines with heavy packs on their backs led out lines of donkeys, each laden with two boxes of water, a box of food rations and a sack of grain.
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While each Marine carried enough food and water for themselves for two days, the donkeys gave each squad supplies for an extra 48 hours. Once finished, the animals would be led back to the resupply base to load up again and then return to the mountains.

Before coming to Afghanistan, some of the troops received training in handling donkeys at the Marines' Mountain Warfare Training Center in Bridgeport, Nevada, said Capt. John Moshane.

"Marines have used donkeys since the American revolution," he said, as each animal was being spray painted with a number for identification.

Still, the donkeys' stubbornness to cooperate and their determination to try to mate with each other whenever they were untied persistently frustrated their handlers. When one Marine slapped one of the animals on the rump in exasperation, the donkey promptly gave him a sharp kick with one of its hind legs.

Donkeys have long been used by armies in Afghanistan, including by mujahedeen independence fighters against Soviet troops in the 1980s. They have also been popular with smugglers who use them to sneak loads of opium, illegally mined gems and timber across the country's mountainous borders.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
Donkey > Humvee.

Better gas mileage also.

you'd think of all things, gas prices would be the least of their worries in the middle east.
 

DivideBYZero

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"When one Marine slapped one of the animals on the rump in exasperation, the donkey promptly gave him a sharp kick with one of its hind legs."

DonkOwned.
 

OffTopic1

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LowTech is the way to go in most situation. I'm surpise that the army hasn't employ ATV/trailer because it is quicker to get supplies to troop. The only plus donkey has is that it only require a few handlers to move a long train of donkeys.

We use to have 2 some times 3 trailers per ATV train (if terrain is relatively flat) to haul trees for planters in the woods and it can be loaded up to 1000 lbs per trailer. However 600-700 lbs is about the limit that each trailer can handle, and it require un-hitch with a helper or two to push one trailer up the hill at a time if it is muddy or too steep of a trail.

I use to take ATV and trailers up harsher trails than this , or this , or this. (I worked in BC as where the location of the pictures, but farther north and much steeper terrain.)

PS. Supply drops can be air lift with external net/line therefore they don't need to land, however the pay load is about 1/3 less than internal cargo.
 

Eli

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There are indeed many cases where low-tech > high-tech.

This generally depends on the overall engineering of the high-tech thing in question, though.

Although this issue is a bit different.
 

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Originally posted by: biostud
I guess they are also very stealth compared to choppers.
Stealth is nice but is not a requirement when you have AC-130 & A-10 gunships.
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: OffTopic
Originally posted by: biostud
I guess they are also very stealth compared to choppers.
Stealth is nice but is not a requirement when you have AC-130 & A-10 gunships.

we all know how effective they are when delivering goods to soldiers in the mountains.......
 
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