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Ranger X

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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I don't know about this site. These prices are inaccurate because gas prices are changing everyday and they depend on someone to report these changes to the webmaster. I wish there was an official gas watching site that does this automatically.
 

TXHokie

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Nov 16, 1999
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<< I saw a news program where it says even if you car ask for the good stuff, if it doesn't knock with the lower octane, you don't need it. So say if your car requires 91 and you put it 87 and floor it going a bit uphill and there's no knock, then you should be fine. If not bump the octane up to the next level. I did it to my current car and it runs fine so I'm sticking with 87. >>



Well, that is not totally true! In many performance cars, like my Boxster S, the onboard computer will retard your timing to prevent knocking. So if I put 87 octane in it and floor it, it will not knock because of the onboard computer but I will lose performance because of the adjustments made to prevent knocking.

So, yes, if the car doesn't knock, you are ok but it doesn't mean that everything is the same as if you used the recommended 93 octane.
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Okay, I take some of that back. I wouldn't do this if you drive a performance car (like a Mustang, Porsche etc.). But then if you can afford to drive a nice car like that then what's an extra 20 cents a gallon? Now my old VW is no performance car. I am very anal in keeping mileage records etc so I have noticed no degradation in mileage nor any less acceleration in performance. Of course YMMV.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
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Anyone want to UPS me some of that cheap gas? It's a stupid $1.89 here in Milwaukee. Gov't just gave Citgo permission to switch to Winter blend gas so hopefully it will go down $.02 cents soon
 

beatinitup

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I actually went over this whole thread and read everything and here is a quick question that i have.

I drive a 92 prelude SI, it's no porsche but i put 92 octane in it. My question is, what the heck is "knock"?

Does your engine actually make a knocking sound if you floor it?
 

primeosu2

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Jun 22, 2001
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Why is gas so expensive here in the midwest now?! :| It's $1.79, 1.89, 1.99 around me. It was $1.50ish the week before, $1.20ish the week before that for the lowest grade gas.
 

Dingas

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Jun 8, 2001
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For gas, I can notice in my car between premium, and mid grade, because my car does not idle as well with the mid grade, or the low grade, but idles nicely with the premium.

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Schmo

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<< My question is, what the heck is "knock"? >>



Engine knock is a sharp metallic noise, sometimes referred to as engine clatter or pinging, caused by the pre-ignition of fuel as it is compressed in the cylinder, milliseconds before the normal spark plug firing. This condition typically occurs during acceleration, such as merging into highway traffic, or under heavy load conditions, such as pulling a boat or travel trailer. Under knock conditions, a vehicle will experience a reduction in power output as well as reduced fuel economy.

The higher the octane, the more resistant the fuel is to pre-ignition... this is why higher compression engines require higher octane fuel because the fuel would ignite because of the pressure which would be a little too early in the cycle, therefore throwing the engine out of sync and reducing power.

More info on knocking:
Several factors can contribute to, or result in, engine knock. These factors include outdoor temperature extremes, altitude, humidity, operating under heavy engine loads, time elapsed between routine tune-ups, vehicle age, and manufacturing and engineering tolerances . The most common cause of engine knock is improper tuning of the engine, where the engine timing has deviated from the manufacturers design specifications. This problem is easily resolved through proper routine maintenance and tune-ups.

As a vehicle?s engine ages, the octane required to prevent knock may increase. This condition is referred to as Octane Requirement Increase, or ORI, and is the result of normal engine wear. In instances where you experience occasional or moderate knocking, your first line of defense is to try a higher octane gasoline to accommodate this Octane Requirement Increase of your engine.

Severe knocking, which cannot be remedied by using a higher octane grade of gasoline, demands your authorized mechanic?s attention.


 
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