[LTT] Assassin's Creed Black Flag benchmarked

[BallaTheFeared]

As with all his reviews, they overclock all their cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45n5xjRUlQ

Would really like to see them drop the AA, to 4xMSAA at 1080p and SMAA injected at 1600, but that's just me :|


Looks like you might need this: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-graphics-and-performance-guide

 

[thilanliyan]

Source link?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Added with my edit, thought I had it but noticed I had not!

Thanks for the heads up though.


Also OC Doc (clocks they use)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...by1jNTFvaTF2UHhaMzdMQ0FNM2c&usp=sharing#gid=0

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

290 faster than 290x, lol sounds legit

 

[Teizo]

290 faster than 290x, lol sounds legit

Yeah, Linus and Slick are rookies. I think this is their first review....ever.



Seriously though, probably has to do with throttling. They, as mentioned about 1,000 times...overclock all their cards...which is what most enthusiast do, so this gives a good example of the real world end user enthusiast experience.

This game looks good, btw. I think other than BF4 this will definitely be on my must get list.

 

[ShintaiDK]

290 faster than 290x, lol sounds legit

Its unfortunately very possible due to the cooler.

 

[Teizo]

^What? 290 faster than the 290X? Sounds legit...

By the way...how crazy is that. The 290 @ $400 is just as fast as a $1000 Titan in Crysis 3.

/Shakes head

 

[Silverforce11]

So this new AC, is actually finally taking advantage of PC hardware unlike all the previous titles? How good does it look? I generally avoid bad console ports.

 

[3DVagabond]

Its unfortunately very possible due to the cooler.

The result of AT using silent mode for the benches.

 

[Pseudoics]

Looks like you might need this: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-graphics-and-performance-guide

I like how nvidia suggest FXAA is for low-to-mid-range users, and then recommend every single card below a 780 Ti use FXAA for an 'optimal 40fps'

AC games have always run terribly on PC relative to hardware.

 

[blackened23]

I like how nvidia suggest FXAA is for low-to-mid-range users, and then recommend every single card below a 780 Ti use FXAA for an 'optimal 40fps'

AC games have always run terribly on PC relative to hardware.

This is not true at all. Every AC game i've played ran well, but AMD tends to have issues in AC games since they're generally TWIMTBP games. Specifically, I remember CFX never really working properly in AC 2 or AC: Brotherhood, but this was long ago with 7970s. Not sure if that changed. Heck, no AC game prior to AC III had any DX11 features, so have you really played all of the AC games? I mean, most of those games could be run on low end cards with no problem. I can't think of any older AC game that didn't play really well with great framerates so your statement "AC games have always run terribly" is a non factual one, because every AC game has in fact run really well. AC3 and AC4 were the first games to introduce high end GPU features, but those are scalable features which you can turn off for better performance.

Of course if you want to tank your framerate with TXAA or 8X MSAA, you have that option. But any reasonable person will just use FXAA and happily play at a solid 60 fps through the entire game(s). Again -the game is scalable. If you want good performance, that isnt' a problem. If you want to tank your performance or if you have SLI 780ti's, use 4x TXAA. As far as these benchmarks, they've more or less maxed the game out - when you use realistic AA settings it runs fantastic. Pretty much I never dip below 60 fps in AC IV, and that's with a single card.

 

[Silverforce11]

Actually previous AC games ran fast even on mid-range hardware, this is the first AC where I've seen such horrid performance.. question is, are the visuals justifying the poor performance?

 

[blackened23]

Actually previous AC games ran fast even on mid-range hardware, this is the first AC where I've seen such horrid performance.. question is, are the visuals justifying the poor performance?

The visuals are nice but make no mistake, it isn't a BF4 or Crysis 3. And yes, you're correct, previous AC games run super well on nearly all types of GPU hardware.

That said, AC IV doesn't run bad unless you enable stupid settings like TXAA or 8X MSAA. There was also a patch from ubisoft this morning that further increased performance - it runs 100% fine.

 

[SimianR]

Yeah, Linus and Slick are rookies. I think this is their first review....ever.



Seriously though, probably has to do with throttling. They, as mentioned about 1,000 times...overclock all their cards...which is what most enthusiast do, so this gives a good example of the real world end user enthusiast experience.

This game looks good, btw. I think other than BF4 this will definitely be on my must get list.

Some might consider Linus and Slick rookies in some way, they haven't been around that long compared to some of the tech sites that people read (but maybe I'm mistaken?).

You're right that most enthusiasts overclock their cards, but I'm not sure that only including graphs of overclocked cards is really a good idea for a review. If people are basing their purchase off of performance of an overclocked card - there's really no guarantee your card will overclock as well as the reviewers. There are plenty of PC gamers out there that don't overclock as well - only showing overclock performance really starts to limit the audience that your video is even applicable to - in an already niche market. I think a happy medium would be to show both

 

[Face2Face]

Also OC Doc (clocks they use)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...by1jNTFvaTF2UHhaMzdMQ0FNM2c&usp=sharing#gid=0

Looks like their GTX 780 is overclocked to 1110/1652 - () Looks pretty familiar :hmm: Puts up a pretty good showing in this game. I do agree with you Balla, they run everything @ 8XMSAA, which pretty much destroys every card. I think they need to dial it back a notch on the post processing, At least make it playable.

290 faster than 290x, lol sounds legit

Yep, you would need to watch his R9 290 review in order to find out why.

 

[futurefields]

Anybody with a single 7950 pushing 1080p tried to ran this game yet?

 

[Carfax83]

Actually previous AC games ran fast even on mid-range hardware, this is the first AC where I've seen such horrid performance.. question is, are the visuals justifying the poor performance?

Horrid performance? What do you expect when you set MSAA to 8x?

8x MSAA is unnecessary at 1080p, much less 1600p.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

The cpu usage in AC4 is extremely strange. Sometimes its only used on one core, sometimes, all are used.

 

[Carfax83]

The cpu usage in AC4 is extremely strange. Sometimes its only used on one core, sometimes, all are used.

I wouldn't say it's strange, just dynamic. The game adds more threads when it needs to ie for populated areas.

 

[RussianSensation]

This is not true at all. Every AC game i've played ran well, but AMD tends to have issues in AC games since they're generally TWIMTBP games.

I disagree. AC3 had god awful graphics and especially so given that GTX680/7970GE and GTX590 couldn't even hit 60 fps at 1600p.
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassins-creed-iii-test-gpu.html

The multi-core CPU utilization was just pathetic on AC3. In general, imo AC games have been some of the worst PC console ports, with terrible graphics (not really upgraded for the PC), low resolution textures, sub-par shadows and piss poor frame rate given their graphics.

Gameplay aside, this new one is another unoptimized PC port. The graphics are not mind-blowing but the performance is once again atrocious relative to the graphics.

TXAA is once again disappointing as it washes out texture details (look at the textures on the coat with TXAA vs. SMAA).

The game is also locked internally to 62 fps.

The GPU optimization is very poor. If you choose to use the inferior TXAA mode, you get an 8 fps performance penalty on the 780 compared with the superior IQ SMAA mode - 42 fps vs. 50 fps.

With SMAA at 1600p, 780 gets just 5 fps more than a GTX770 and you are looking at GTX780 SLI or similar just to hit 60 fps. D:

To make matters worse, this game runs worse with HT on than with it off.

Right now on GameGPU, this game is getting an optimization rating of 2/5 based on 242 votes. That's telling.

At least in this latest version they upgraded the textures. However, the character models up close in cut scenes reveal low polygon models with rough edges, and overall physics/animation of ship sails, character movement are very weak for a next gen console gaming title. Clearly made for PS360 generation still.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Its sad too, because the game itself is great. Way better then AC3. My favorite since the second game anyway.

TXAA does look like crap I agree.

 

[Vesku]

[redacted]

Wait a second, this thread was about Assassin's Creed Black Flag. I find texture quality has some of the biggest impact for me once I hit playable framerates, so this port has some things going for it.

That'll be enough. Stick to the topic.
-ViRGE

 

[Carfax83]

Gameplay aside, this new one is another unoptimized PC port. The graphics are not mind-blowing but the performance is once again atrocious relative to the graphics.

I don't think the optimization is as bad as what you're claiming.. The game looks very nice, and has some very GPU intensive IQ enhancing technologies. HBAO+, PCCS and the enhanced God Rays are the biggest performance suckers..

But the game looks much better with those features on than off. Performance will undoubtedly improve with further driver and patch updates.

To make matters worse, this game runs worse with HT on than with it off.

Might possibly be related to using Windows 7..

At least in this latest version they upgraded the textures. However, the character models up close in cut scenes reveal low polygon models with rough edges, and overall physics/animation of ship sails, character movement are very weak for a next gen console gaming title. Clearly made for PS360 generation still.

I don't think Ubisoft ever touted Assassin's Creed IV as next gen, as it still uses the AnvilNext engine, although significantly enhanced.. The Disrupt engine is their next gen engine, and Watch Dogs will be the first game to use it.

 

[janii]

Jesus what? Barely 60fps with max settings on 1080p??

Im getting 60fps with gtx580 with max except AA set to MSAA.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Game.gpu also has a review up now. Personally I would put more validity in that than a you tube video.

Guess someone else posted this already, sorry.