Lucas reportedly confirms theatrical versions of SW films will never appear on DVD, only SEs.

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JHeiderman

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Guys, the SE's are also edited for content!!!! There are a couple of scenes that are forever changed. The most obvious being Han Solo shooting second in Cantina instead of shooting Greedo (or whatever his name was) in cold blood.

There are also changes to the gun fire fights. The cuts are much shorter now. There is a video clip floating around on the web that shows you side by side the the original version and the SE's and you can see how much they edited out! I will try to find it and link to it for you to see.

- J
 

bentwookie

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Hopefully he will redo jabba in ANH...take out that dumb dance number in ROTJ and redo a bad ass rancor not one so overtly composited with Mark hamill.
other than that I could give a sh!t if he releases the originals.

as for the Fan festival go to this site for some audio of lucas talking about the movies...warning the capture is very low quality...but you can still make out what is being said.link
 

SSP

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For gods sake, would it hurt him so bad to release the originals??? He knows the SE is going to be bootlegged, might as well make money from the fans by including the theatrical version. :|
 

zeon

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boo hoo, now we'll only be able to see a superior remastered version with updated effects and better sound.... nostalgia for nostalgias sake is pathetic...
 

Lithium381

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i know. starwars fans can be so b*tchy i'd rather watch the se.

i'd take the SE's as long as they weren't edited for content, just a little bit of color enhancement and such and thats more than sweet!
 

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
so the remastered ones that showed 6 years ago won't be the ones on dvd? doh!


i wonder if i can encode to mpeg2... no still won't be high fidelity...

Errr.... if I read your message correctly, the version on DVD will be the new version of the movies that have the added effects. Personally I think it's idiotic not to give the fans a choice between them on a single disc. THey can easily do that with branching. Lucas IS an ass!
 

dman

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Southpark did a good parody of this with Lucas and Spielbergy and ET and Indiana Jones stuff.

Before I saw that I didn't even know about the E.T. thing where he/they change all the guns to walkie talkies in the SE DVD.




 

Adrian Tung

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Laserdisc is ANALOG video guys, no pulling anything off anything. The only way to do it is to record it the old fashioned way to a DVD/VCR/Computer/Whatever format you would like that has a RCA Composite or S-video input. The audio is digital so that you could record digitaly into a PC but video is analog. Those bootlegs on DVD are just digital recordings from an Analog source.

Theoretically, someone with enough EE skills could catch the digital streams that're coming from the LD drive circuitry and re-route them to some form of digital storage (hard disk drive, if possible) for storage, analysis and decryption. Of course, that's a whole load of work and equipment but where there's a will, there's a way....


atwl
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: dman6666
Southpark did a good parody of this with Lucas and Spielbergy and ET and Indiana Jones stuff.

Before I saw that I didn't even know about the E.T. thing where he/they change all the guns to walkie talkies in the SE DVD.

I saw that parady also. Thought it was really good. I DIDN'T know in the SE DVD of E.T. that the guns had changed to walkie talkies? I thought it was just a p1ss take. If he actually had that changed in the film it must have looked pants! Realism!

Lucas has just bent his fans over and given them some!

 

dolph

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Originally posted by: zeon
boo hoo, now we'll only be able to see a superior remastered version with updated effects and better sound.... nostalgia for nostalgias sake is pathetic...

you're right, nostalgia for nostalgia's sake is pathetic. too bad this isn't an example of it. although it is entirely his right to do so, lucas did more than just update the effects and enhance the sound to the original movies. i'm sure we could live if it was just that. but he added & edited whole scenes that many people feel changed the movies for the worse. i believe all sw fans are asking for is the opportunity to watch the original movies, unedited from the first time they saw them 20+ years ago. lucas is making that very difficult for us to do, and a lot of us are upset about that. vhs tapes are an unstable and inferior quality medium, laserdiscs are rare, expensive (if all one wanted the player for was to watch star wars and a few other movies that would never make it to dvd), and still inferior, and pirated dvds support terrorism, of course. yes, the movies are probably 95% the same as they were when they first came out, but certain parts of it (greedo shooting first, that really stupid song & dance at jabba's palace), make just enough difference for me to want the originals the way i remembered them when i was growing up.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Adrian Tung
Laserdisc is ANALOG video guys, no pulling anything off anything. The only way to do it is to record it the old fashioned way to a DVD/VCR/Computer/Whatever format you would like that has a RCA Composite or S-video input. The audio is digital so that you could record digitaly into a PC but video is analog. Those bootlegs on DVD are just digital recordings from an Analog source.

Theoretically, someone with enough EE skills could catch the digital streams that're coming from the LD drive circuitry and re-route them to some form of digital storage (hard disk drive, if possible) for storage, analysis and decryption. Of course, that's a whole load of work and equipment but where there's a will, there's a way....


atwl

u'd still have to recompress to nonanimorphic mpeg 2 for dvd. suck
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: aves2k
Exactly my sentiments dolph.
mine too. Han Solo fired first! He was a much cooler character as a hardened smuggler than as a politically correct and stupid wimp who lets Greedo take a shot before firing.

(ed: in response to the "What are the odds that the author is single?10-1, 20-1, higher?" jab) :

Oh, and I've met Bill Hunt's wife Sarah. Not all Star Wars fans are basement-living singles.
 

NuclearFusi0n

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FVCK YOU LUCAS

AND FVCK NATALIE PORTMAN TOO (yeah i wish) hot as hell but CANT ACT FOR BEANS!!!!! :| :| :| :| :| :|
 

IGBT

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May be just a marketing ploy to whip up frienzied interest when they do come out..
 
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