Luke warm Ageia PhysX deal...

aka1nas

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I got in on that deal a few weeks ago and I am pretty happy with the performance in City of Villains.
 

Rage187

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they will have to be $50 before they start selling.

$200 and they work with 3 games?
 

coloumb

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Originally posted by: Rage187
they will have to be $50 before they start selling.

$200 and they work with 3 games?

/agree somewhat.

Reminds me of when voodoo card was first released. Hopefully we'll start seeing more games that support this card...
 

allies

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: Rage187
they will have to be $50 before they start selling.

$200 and they work with 3 games?

http://www.ageia.com/physx/titles.html

What does it mean when they mention Xbox 360 games? Does that imply that the unit has Ageia hardware built in, or that it is somehow implemented in software?

Read the "Icon Legend" near the bottom of the page.
 

Smartazz

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When unreal tournament 2007 comes out I may consider getting this if the diffrence is significant, but it would still be after I upgrade my video card. Don't Ageia physx cards slow down your frame rates anyway sometimes according to dailytech?
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
When unreal tournament 2007 comes out I may consider getting this if the diffrence is significant, but it would still be after I upgrade my video card. Don't Ageia physx cards slow down your frame rates anyway sometimes according to dailytech?

I'm gonna wait until ATI and NVidia implement this in their own line. It might take some time but it'll happen.
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Smartazz
When unreal tournament 2007 comes out I may consider getting this if the diffrence is significant, but it would still be after I upgrade my video card. Don't Ageia physx cards slow down your frame rates anyway sometimes according to dailytech?

I'm gonna wait until ATI and NVidia implement this in their own line. It might take some time but it'll happen.

From all the marketting crap both of those companies are spewing, it doesn't sound like they are actually creating APIs to go along with GPU-physics support. They are just going to add support in the driver for select proprietary physics engines(I.E. Havok FX). Ageia's solution at least will work in software across multiple cores if the PPU is not present.
 

anthcla81

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i was considering getting one of these, for rainbox six vegas(that game is awesome btw), and for ut2k7..but I thought these cards came in pci-e? Only ones im seeing on zipzoomfly are for regular pci..which I have filled in my comp by my sound card and tv tuner.....why are motherboard manufacters making boards with only 2 pci slots, but nothing as far as expansion cards are being made in pci-e!?

ok, done with my rant
 

firebyyrd

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What board do you have?? I got 3 PCI drives..

but I got the same problem as you.

Sound card, wireless card, tv tuner.
 

TruePaige

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Mmm the biggest problem with PCI slots is that now the PCI-E video cards take up 2 slots...and when you use SLI set ups you lose a slot in between on most as damage =/
 

Billyzeke

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Mmm the biggest problem with PCI slots is that now the PCI-E video cards take up 2 slots...and when you use SLI set ups you lose a slot in between on most as damage =/

I hear thee...
 

RallyMaster

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I'd get one if they worked with Rainbow Six Vegas (PC) and actually proved to improve frame rates (as well as cost 100 USD or less). Otherwise, no thanks.
 

bunnyfubbles

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PPUs are going to need greater software support and at least PCI-e before they can really take off. I'd MUCH rather have properly done PPUs than dual video cards.
 

GundamSonicZeroX

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
PPUs are going to need greater software support and at least PCI-e before they can really take off. I'd MUCH rather have properly done PPUs than dual video cards.
Yes, I really want PCI-E. I remember last year, everyone was speculating that Aegia would have PCI-E now.
 

iseestars

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If you have a Core 2 Duo, just wait for the RD600 boards to come out... then you'll be able to run crossfire and a third card for physics. I imagine there'll be much less slowdown with an actual video card instead of some add-on card that the actual video cards aren't designed to play friendly with.
 

gspyer

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Originally posted by: aka1nas
Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Smartazz
When unreal tournament 2007 comes out I may consider getting this if the diffrence is significant, but it would still be after I upgrade my video card. Don't Ageia physx cards slow down your frame rates anyway sometimes according to dailytech?

I'm gonna wait until ATI and NVidia implement this in their own line. It might take some time but it'll happen.

From all the marketting crap both of those companies are spewing, it doesn't sound like they are actually creating APIs to go along with GPU-physics support. They are just going to add support in the driver for select proprietary physics engines(I.E. Havok FX). Ageia's solution at least will work in software across multiple cores if the PPU is not present.

Here's the problem with what you said. It is simple Computer Science. Physics is just math. All this Aegia stuff is pure marketing nonsense. Whatever can drive specific floating point calculations the fastest, wins. This is why the GPU makers are getting in on this. It turns out a GPU does math pretty damn well. In fact a quad-core CPUs can have one core dedicated to doing physics math. Havok FX supports that too.

Havok FX is as proprietary as the Aegia SDK. It is just a physics engine. Havok FX happens to use a second GPU to do physics instead of the Aegia card.

The big advantage Aegia has is that's SDK is free, mostly.

Aegia needs to bring on the price of this card to $50 really friggin' soon. The Aegia PhysX chip just like any other micro-processor, while CPUs and GPU are getting faster, this chip simply, isn't. This chip will be old and slow in another year.
 

Staples

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Mmm the biggest problem with PCI slots is that now the PCI-E video cards take up 2 slots...and when you use SLI set ups you lose a slot in between on most as damage =/

The biggest problemm is PCI-E 1x slots. Thes are the biggest failure in the PC market today. A month ago I looked on newegg to see just how many PCI-e 1x cards there were since motherboard makers seem to think there is actually support for them. I came up with a whole two cards.

To any motherboard marker (stop putting PCI-e 1x slots on motherboards, it is a dead form factor).
 
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