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KDKPSJ

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I am not sure why this thread is gone nowhere, but at least I can answer on G37 and 335i MSRP since I am actively shopping for them (For now, windows shopping, but hoping to pull the trigger soon)

I am checking out coupe, so sedan is a bit cheaper but option and pricing structure are quite similar. G37 Journey with Prem/Nav Package sums up about $ 40k, while 335i with Prem/Nav/Steptronic hits almost $ 47k, if not 50k. Yes, if you leave out the emblem and "status" factor, 335i is quite overpriced, consider how the gap between G and 3 became so narrow (Kudo to Nissan/Infiniti engineers on that one).
 
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1. Infiniti; Definition: Tarted up Nissan.

2. It's 'infinitely' better than your interior. I'll watch the 'Buy Me A New Accord TV' channel on my widescreen TV/DVD Nav unit while resting on my heated Nappa leather and piano black trim, then I'll listen to your Nissan podcast on my Intravee iPod integration as I always enjoy a laugh.

3. ????

4. Less than me, though. :awe:

5. I work for a top ten independent software corp and as an Architect and consultant my skills are required from the UK to the Middle East. Anyone can lash up a spreadsheet and check a tax bill, peon. I get as much as I want for gas. I'm worth it. :awe:

1. Besides being owned by The same parent company, I fail to see how the creme le creme of Nissan is any worse than the garbage coming out of Germany. Anyway, The LFA must be just a "tarted" up Toyota right? This is how ignorant fanboi world works.. I think?

3. You don't even know "projection" it's Freudian. You probably never heard of him, look him up.

5. blah blah you deliver take out.. If you were worth anything you would get a free company car.. but I degress.

Ah, "from the UK to the middle east". That explains everything..

You're not worth any more of my time. See ya scrub.
 
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consider how the gap between G and 3 became so narrow (Kudo to Nissan/Infiniti engineers on that one).

QFT

of course most ignorant fanboys still think BMW is a world leader and Infiniti is a small Nissan niche brand that just started out when Infiniti is the leader in it's class and leaving that 230hp 328i in the dust.

Just wait until the 2011 M rapes the M3.. for $20,000 less. HAHA!
 
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zoiks

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I have a G37 coupe that's about a year old. The MSRP with all the options was about $46k.

Perhaps I should sell it soon than rather be associated with the likes of the clown posting in here.
 

PhoKingGuy

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I have a G37 coupe that's about a year old. The MSRP with all the options was about $46k.

Perhaps I should sell it soon than rather be associated with the likes of the clown posting in here.

One of the reasons I dislike the G so much is it seems a good 90% of people who own them are douchebags (around here anyway)
 

Doggiedog

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oh yeah, those dudes in the Lambo must be posers too because they use tiptronic. Yeah, don't be mad you can't afford an automatic. Enjoy that stick when you're rolling down a hill in traffic

Manual BMWs have something called hill assist which prevents you from rolling back on inclines. Not that I need it. Traffic doesn't bother me. Although I'm sure my left calf muscle must be stronger than my right.
 

Doggiedog

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Wow.. Nice attack there. Way to defend yourself!! That didnt make you look like a douchebag at all

LOL!

I must be a real DB because I've owned a VW GTI, Infiniti G35 and BMWs. If you throw in Lexus, Acura and Honda owners as DBs, I win the grand prize!
 

zoiks

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This has probably been the most retarded thread yet in the Garage. I'm glad that I turned that poser off using the Ignore list so all I see is his reply headers and none of his BS.
 

ShawnD1

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LOL!

I must be a real DB because I've owned a VW GTI, Infiniti G35 and BMWs. If you throw in Lexus, Acura and Honda owners as DBs, I win the grand prize!
You can tell how much of a douche you are by looking at your insurance rates. Insurance on a Subaru Impreza WRX STI is incredibly high because it's mostly douches who own one. Higher insurance means higher probability of you being a douche.
 

PhoKingGuy

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You can tell how much of a douche you are by looking at your insurance rates. Insurance on a Subaru Impreza WRX STI is incredibly high because it's mostly douches who own one. Higher insurance means higher probability of you being a douche.

I dunno about that one, most of the owners ive met are actually pretty cool. Maybe i'm just lucky
 

ShawnD1

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I dunno about that one, most of the owners ive met are actually pretty cool. Maybe i'm just lucky

http://www.insurancerate.com/expensive-cars-to-insure-subaru-impreza-wrx.php
Most Expensive Cars to Insure: Subaru Impreza WRX

You may think of the Subaru Impreza WRX as an affordable, high-performance vehicle that offers a lot of bang for your buck. To insurers, though, "performance" is a four-letter word. The power and speed of the WRX that make it so attractive to buyers are exactly what make it so unattractive to insurers. As a result, the Subaru Impreza WRX ranked #4 on the Highway Loss Data Institute's list of the top ten most expensive vehicles to insure.
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Why Premiums Are So High
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Higher collision rates. The fact that the WRX ranked on the Highway Loss Data Institute's list means two things. First, the WRX tends to be involved in more accidents than other cars. In addition, when the WRX is involved in crashes, it has higher collision losses associated with it than other vehicles. Put simply, the WRX is in more wrecks on average, and these wrecks tend to be more serious and more expensive than those of other cars. All of this spells risk to insurers, and this is reflected in higher premiums.

Risky drivers. Even though it might not be fair, you will be held financially accountable for the mistakes other drivers of the WRX make. In other words, if drivers of the Subaru WRX are more likely to speed and crash, then your premiums will be higher regardless of how clean your driving record is.

Statistically speaking, the people who drive a WRX are horrible drivers. They're not just involved in crashes; they cause crashes. Insurance companies don't want to insure your WRX because the numbers show that you'll probably just slam it into some guy's BMW and the insurance company will be stuck with the bill.
 
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sdifox

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Oh yea? I never knew that! That's pretty bad ass man, and good to know, maybe I could even get motorcycle tires as I will be needing a set of those this season...Hmmm. Yea morning times can be rough, I leave at 7:45 so the highway is run down by then.

I heard good things about the Conti DWS. Made in Germany too I think? Gotta love Z Germans

Goes with the Austrian made Car
 

Arkaign

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Heh, thanks to trollicious Casio, this is now the 2nd longest thread in AT:G history, behind Trident trying to find an expensive high-mileage used automatic Civic.

Eeeenteresting...

Ironically, a used G35 would really be my choice for a good reliable used $18k budget entry-lux car. Good balance of power, comfort, simplicity (no awd, no turbo, very common drivetrain, etc).
 

exdeath

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I know I'm late but E46 M3 >>> Infiniti G(anything) and you can get one for $25k. Who gives a crap if someone paid $50k or $25k a year later, it's the same damn car.

I smoked some dumb ass kid in a G37 with my Cobra a few weeks ago. Some punk ass kid with a backward baseball cap playing rap music and driving with one hand jack rabbiting around people. Brand new G7 with temp tags, tinted windows and chrome rims already. He went flying by me and I just let it go since I was doing the speed limit and he was doing at least 90. But then the light ahead went yellow. I saw him tap his brake, then step on it, thinking about running it but was too far out, then he slammed on the brakes to stop at the last minute as I nonchalantly roll up on the red. He was jack rabbiting at the light and rolling and generally being a douche. Let him get a car while I rolled out first gear to 30 and let him wind it out to make sure he started it first, then punched it and went sideways in 2nd while taking back my car and pulling him by an instant 3 cars while still blowing the tires away. His blue HIDs stayed far away after that and he refused to catch back up after I slowed down and he took the first available turn.

The "mommy just got me this car and I can race anyone" type kills are the best. Must suck when your 330 HP birthday present feels like it's going backwards when your foot is through the floor board. G37 Terminated.

Sorry to add in off topic, just noticed that guy I wrote this for got banned and won't see this anyway for a while
 
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VinylxScratches

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Well this thread went pretty downhill lol.

I think I'm gonna look for a Mercury Grand Marquis. I can get one with low miles for closer to 10,000. I'm not sure I want to get into debt on a car but I'm just trying to prepare for the worst if my car takes a dump.
 

exdeath

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I know this guy is banned, but christ I can't help but respond to his BS

500hp or 300hp feels the same in traffic

my new g37 has 328hp over my is250 which has 206hp

i can't tell the difference, of course I don't drive hard.

Not even. I drive both a 95 Camry 4 cyl and a hopped up 03 Cobra. There is a *HUGE* difference even in heavy traffic. One is taxed keeping up with the car in front of me in first gear, the other I can accidentally leave it in third gear and still keep pace with traffic. Just pulling down the drive way revving up first gear feels anemic for all the sound it's making compared to the Cobra that pretty much idles it's way out without fuss. I don't care if you're going 25 mph in rush hour traffic, the feel and driving experience between two horsepower levels of that magnitude are drastic.

just because a car has 2x as much horsepower doesn't mean the 0-60 will be 200% as fast. Maybe 20% 1.5s faster (3.7s on a m5 vs 5.2s on a g37) which means nothing in the real world.

most of you are posers anyway who drive 100hp cars acting like you know anything about speed or horsepower. Lol 250hp is more horsepower than even the biggest muscle cars had 20 years ago. More HP than luxury cars had 10 years ago. Pretty standard today.

you want speed, try a Ducati.. 0-60 in 2.5s.. bet you never drove a Ducati before.. what do you drive an Aveo?

Wow... no, 250 HP was most of the base level cars. The upgraded muscle cars which back then were nothing special, just the same car with a bigger engine, were all usually 350-400+ HP and some of the most legendary ones ran 11s-12s on bias ply tires. Just because some random car from the 60s came with a measly 250 HP 454ci single barrel carb doesn't mean "muscle cars are only 250 HP" and not every car with a 400+ cube V8 was a muscle car or even a high horsepower car. The same car with the same engine packages could range from 200 HP to 400+ HP depending on how it was equipped.

eg: 1970 Challenger:

Standard engine on the V8 was the 230 bhp (171.5 kW) 318 cu in (5.2 L) V8 with a 2-barrel carburetor. Optional engines were the 340 cu in (5.6 L) and 383 cu in (6.3 L) V8s, all with a standard 3-speed manual transmission, except for the 290 bhp (216.3 kW) 383 CID engine, which was available only with the TorqueFlite automatic transmission. A 4-speed manual was optional on all engines except the 225 CID I6 and the 2 barrel 383 CID V8.

The performance model was the R/T (Road/Track), with a 383 CID Magnum V8, rated at 335 bhp (249.8 kW); 300 bhp for 1971 , due to a drop in compression . Standard transmission was a 3-speed manual. Optional R/T engines were the 375 bhp (279.6 kW) 440 cu in (7.2 L) Magnum, the 390 bhp (290.8 kW) 440 CID Six-Pack and the 425 bhp (316.9 kW) 426 cu in (7 L) Hemi.

The 402 in my dad's Chevy Delray = 425 HP, and the factory bottom end 440 in the Plymouth Fury race car = 600 HP N/A on pump gas with old ass factory parts with hardly any work besides head port, cam, and carb. Still the original mechanical fuel pump and all on a never rebuilt 40+ year old bottom end, with many 11 second passes on it.. Muscle cars only had 250 HP my ass, just because you saw a smogged Suburban with some piece of shit 150 HP 454.

PS: 20 years ago was 1990. The 70s and 80s were pretty horrible times for all cars. Remember the 100 miles of vacuum hoses and diaphragms under the hood of the average Toyota in 1980? We didn't really recover from the 70s until the early 90s which brought the maturation of modern EFI with fast cheap microprocessors and fuel injectors.

most of you are posers anyway who drive 100hp cars acting like you know anything about speed or horsepower. Lol 250hp is more horsepower than even the biggest muscle cars had 20 years ago.

If you think muscle cars were 20 years ago, you are too young and unqualified to be talking about them, let alone acting like *you* know any more about speed and horsepower than us "posers" you are pretending to talk down to. Is your parent's G37 the first car *YOU'VE* ever driven with more than 100 HP?
 
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