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Zclyh3

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Maybe we should talk to the Microsoft marketing department and tell them to make a commercial like the Macs ones. That would be a great way to fire back. The "games" link was a perfect indication of the limited game library for Macs.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
I have a couple main problems with Macs. First and foremost, that damn one-button mouse.
Oh... my... lord... you DID NOT just say that...

Heisenberg, nothing personal, but you obviously biased against the Mac. Biased people mean the "tests" they do will have biased results. Again, nothing personal, but consider your results invalidated.

Ill try it while talking like a gamer

MaCz CaN sUpP0rT aLm0sT aNy M0uSe Yo! y0u CaN uSe M0rE tHaN 0nE bUtT0n!!!!! w3Rd?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: pcman2002b
Everyone and anyone that hates Macintosh computers please reply to this message. I want to see how long of a list of different complaints, gripes, and problems people have with Macintosh's and pretty much Apple Computers in general.

Especially reply if you have seen Apple's latest ad campaign for their OSX. You know the one that totally trashes Windows, I know Apple's OS is no gem either. So Come On. Reply see if we can get it up to like 200 replies or something.

I think OSX is crap...

What a wonderful statement!

It's not as stable as the OS it was ripped out from,

The desktop version may not be, but it also doesnt use the same kernel and hasnt been around for as long.

it has a horrible GUI...

Yeah, but what doesnt?

it just plain sucks, like an ugly version of windows without the stability that it SHOULD have...

I believe it is as stable as XP.

I prefer the X86 setup because hardware is cheaper,

Most of the hardware is the same, but I know what you mean. Ill give you this one.

software is cheaper

freshmeat.net has plenty of free software.

and there is a lot more of it,

Most of the things I have tried compiling on Mac OS X work.

if i want to i can run Windows,

Virtual pc


Yellow Dog Linux


Working on a Mac PPC port.


Solaris x86 put out of its misery with v9.

OpenBSD and NetBSD also work on Mac PPC platform.

and whatever i would like on it... all of those on the same pc, and if i want to, all of them at the same time...

There are more choices with the PC... freedom of choice is something i value...

I have the same choices with my Mac.

Just to clear one thing up... i do NOT think that XP is more stable, it's pretty horrible too...

Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.

XP is definently worse than W2K...


Ok, its as stable or more stable than Win2k, for me.

EDIT: I mean Mac OS X is as stable or more stable than Win2k

EDIT: screwed up again
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.

XP is definently worse than W2K...


Ok, its as stable or more stable than Win2k, for me.

I thought you said that you have never even used it?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.

XP is definently worse than W2K...


Ok, its as stable or more stable than Win2k, for me.

I thought you said that you have never even used it?

I have a Mac. It is currently running Mac OS X.1.5 just fine. Less confusing? Ill edit my other post to make it child-proof.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.

XP is definently worse than W2K...


Ok, its as stable or more stable than Win2k, for me.

I thought you said that you have never even used it?

I have a Mac. It is currently running Mac OS X.1.5 just fine. Less confusing? Ill edit my other post to make it child-proof.

Oh thank you very much, NOW even us children can understand it...
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Ive never used XP, so I really dont know. But Ive had less problems with my Mac than I have with Windows 2k.

XP is definently worse than W2K...


Ok, its as stable or more stable than Win2k, for me.

I thought you said that you have never even used it?

I have a Mac. It is currently running Mac OS X.1.5 just fine. Less confusing? Ill edit my other post to make it child-proof.

Oh thank you very much, NOW even us children can understand it...

You're welcome
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: tenchim
The Mac comparative pricing is about the only thing I dislike Apple for, otherwise there hasn't been a really convincing argument *against* Macs since the G3 models rolled around.
The problem is that not a lot of people know anything about Macs, so they are quick to point out its flaws. Mac users generally don't complain about crashing because they know it's a good system they're using. You're more likely to say something "sucks" if:

1. Other people don't like it
2. You don't know anything about it

I guarantee if you take all the anti-Mac biased people that have never actually used a Mac, set them up with one, 90% of them will complain about it thanks to their deep-root bias. And so forth.
I would fall into catagory 3. Used Macs but still dont like them
Hopefully they will have thrown them out next semester at school

 

Czar

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wow, seems that mac fanatics went on a spree last night

I would just like to point out a few things about my experiances of macs

My niece has an IMac, she likes it.
My school has quite many G4 macs and I'm studdying multimedia design so thats not unusual. But thankfully there are more pc's which are used more often. The Macs are awfully slow, just browsing the internet makes me feel like I'm on my old p90, doesnt matter if I use Netscape or IE. Video editing on them is quite good though, but doesnt come close to our Avid computers, which run Win2k. Every day we were using the macs at least one computer crashed, and sometimes the teachers computer crashed also.
Here at work there is one Mac, and I'm supporting the network and computers. I had always thought that the mac (which is used by our graphics designer) were so stable because I never get a call from her (the graphics designer) about it. But no, I had to update the webpage and I finaly got to see how the graphics designer works on her mac. It crashed and she said thats normal, it doesnt like to "multitask". So she has just gotten used to the constant crashes and thats why I dont get a call from her.

None of those computers have OSX so I cant comment on that.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Czar
wow, seems that mac fanatics went on a spree last night

Not a fanatic, just a fan

I would just like to point out a few things about my experiances of macs

My niece has an IMac, she likes it.
My school has quite many G4 macs and I'm studdying multimedia design so thats not unusual. But thankfully there are more pc's which are used more often. The Macs are awfully slow, just browsing the internet makes me feel like I'm on my old p90, doesnt matter if I use Netscape or IE. Video editing on them is quite good though, but doesnt come close to our Avid computers, which run Win2k. Every day we were using the macs at least one computer crashed, and sometimes the teachers computer crashed also.
Here at work there is one Mac, and I'm supporting the network and computers. I had always thought that the mac (which is used by our graphics designer) were so stable because I never get a call from her (the graphics designer) about it. But no, I had to update the webpage and I finaly got to see how the graphics designer works on her mac. It crashed and she said thats normal, it doesnt like to "multitask". So she has just gotten used to the constant crashes and thats why I dont get a call from her.

None of those computers have OSX so I cant comment on that.

So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason

Realize that OS 9 and before has been EOLed. So basing your view on Macs by how well Mac OS 9 works is like viewing x86 machines by how well Win98 works.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason

Realize that OS 9 and before has been EOLed. So basing your view on Macs by how well Mac OS 9 works is like viewing x86 machines by how well Win98 works.
In a sense yes, when I bash macs because of OS issues and often stability issues then yes. But the rest still goes, almost impossible to upgrade, little software support compared to pc's, expensive, expensive, top of the line macs slow compared to top of the line pc's.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason

Realize that OS 9 and before has been EOLed. So basing your view on Macs by how well Mac OS 9 works is like viewing x86 machines by how well Win98 works.
In a sense yes, when I bash macs because of OS issues and often stability issues then yes. But the rest still goes, almost impossible to upgrade, little software support compared to pc's, expensive, expensive, top of the line macs slow compared to top of the line pc's.

Its been noted that all parts can be upgraded. Motherboards seem to be the hardest part.
There is plenty of software out there for it.
It is expensive.
It is slower at most things.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason

Realize that OS 9 and before has been EOLed. So basing your view on Macs by how well Mac OS 9 works is like viewing x86 machines by how well Win98 works.
In a sense yes, when I bash macs because of OS issues and often stability issues then yes. But the rest still goes, almost impossible to upgrade, little software support compared to pc's, expensive, expensive, top of the line macs slow compared to top of the line pc's.

Its been noted that all parts can be upgraded. Motherboards seem to be the hardest part.
There is plenty of software out there for it.
It is expensive.
It is slower at most things.
the problem with the software is not because its not much of it, just that the software market is mostly developing new things for PC based systems so the new stuff comes out first for the PC and later for the Mac if you are lucky.

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
So when we start talking about how bad Windows 9x is you wont complain?
hell no! I hate Win9x as much as the next guy, dont even have to give me a reason, but when you bash win2k or xp you have to give a reason

Realize that OS 9 and before has been EOLed. So basing your view on Macs by how well Mac OS 9 works is like viewing x86 machines by how well Win98 works.
In a sense yes, when I bash macs because of OS issues and often stability issues then yes. But the rest still goes, almost impossible to upgrade, little software support compared to pc's, expensive, expensive, top of the line macs slow compared to top of the line pc's.

Its been noted that all parts can be upgraded. Motherboards seem to be the hardest part.
There is plenty of software out there for it.
It is expensive.
It is slower at most things.
the problem with the software is not because its not much of it, just that the software market is mostly developing new things for PC based systems so the new stuff comes out first for the PC and later for the Mac if you are lucky.

I consider 99% of all the software out there to be total crap, so I consider myself lucky if it is never ported to the Mac.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkeyI consider 99% of all the software out there to be total crap, so I consider myself lucky if it is never ported to the Mac.
same here but there is still alot of great software for the pc that you cant get for the mac, and then I mean alot by the meaning of sh*tload of software
 
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